Concept! Apple Tablet

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I know many people do not want a tablet or see the need for such a tool. As a creative person in the CG field, I know many other artists who would buy one in an instant, if done right. However, the problem lies in the fact that the artist market is a niche within Apple's already niche market. Oh well at least one can dream...



Here is the link to the animated concept. Once there just click the link to download, it is about a 5Mb .zip file



http://www.pixelmojo.com



Cheers,



Gary Haus(a.k.a. Iksnoo)
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  • Reply 1 of 53
    composercomposer Posts: 212member
    I hope you don't mind, but I created a 30 second spot for you.
  • Reply 2 of 53
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    Not bad, but why all the ports of the side? If it has the ability to "dock" with a base station to use as a desktop then the ports should be on the dock. I can see a USB port to supply limited connectivity, but not the rest. They should be handled over your wireless network, possibly build in a Airport base station into the base station of the tablet, though that would add unneccsary cost to the tablet.
  • Reply 3 of 53
    iksnooiksnoo Posts: 24member
    I had considered the dock as an option... Maybe that wouldn't be a good idea. Also, if you were elsewhere you may need the ports, if you didn't have the base with you.



    Cheers,



    Gary
  • Reply 4 of 53
    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    Eh, looks cool. In reply to JCG if you use a dock concept you will limit the functionality individual ports may give. You could, for instance, plug in a video camera into the firewire port, and use the tablet as a portable viewing device for presentations. You could drop some off however. I'd rather see a landscape tablet than a "paper" size tablet, but that's my personal preference. Overall: Thumbs Up!
  • Reply 5 of 53
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    I think you did a good job, but I don't like it.

    Here is why: If Apple makes a tablet it shouldn't be just a tablet. It should be a laptop that turns into a tablet. I know its been done before, but it's 2 products in 1. That way you know your getting your moneys worth. Plus when your having a hard time transition-ing to your new tablet you'll always have your keyboard/laptop.

    I like the Alias sketchbook pro interface you put on there, but if anything I think Apple should just bundle it with Alias sketchbook Pro, and have the interface cocoa-ed into the system, and give Alias some credit for it.
  • Reply 6 of 53
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    It can be a laptop, just plug it into a keyboard (that can be dock like).
  • Reply 7 of 53
    I think that minimal ports are acceptable, but this shows what looks like an ethernet port, a modem, 2 FW, 2 USB, and something else (flash media?) plus a propriety port for the base. How many devices can you hook up to a tablet and still have it function as a tablet? I will concede 1 FW and 1 USB for flexibility, but that is pushing it. What is the use of a tablet that is tethered to the desktop with a modem or Ethernet, printer, and A/D converter? No, its main source of connectivity should be AirPort, with BlueTooth as a back up for devices like keyboards and headsets.



    Crusader, if it is a tablet then it should be an easy "software " switch between landscape and portrait for general use, but I do agree that if you have a base it needs to plug into that in landscape mode.
  • Reply 8 of 53
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by chych

    It can be a laptop, just plug it into a keyboard (that can be dock like).



    SO you carry around 2 things instead of one? Not to mention the dock. NO that's not good typical ease of use Apple design. It's too cumbersome.
  • Reply 9 of 53
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by onlooker

    SO you carry around 2 things instead of one? Not to mention the dock. NO that's not good typical ease of use Apple design. It's too cumbersome.



    Ok, plug it into the keyboard, which has a hinge, and fold it, carry one thing. Don't really need a dock if the keyboard part can do the same. Hey, it's a laptop that you can separate the monitor from the keyboard and supports pen recognition.
  • Reply 10 of 53
    onlookeronlooker Posts: 5,252member
    It's still not Apple-ish enough. This particular one would never fly, but I do hope to see a tablet style design. That is one of the 2004 surprise products that I hope to see from Apple.
  • Reply 11 of 53
    cubistcubist Posts: 954member
    No! Don't make it a convertable laptop. That's been tried in the Windows world, and it's a terrible failure. The result is fragile and bulky - a crummy laptop, and an even crummier tablet. You cannot satisfy two markets with a single product.



    I like the movie very much. It's very attractive. I would buy the product if it came out. It should be reasonably inexpensive (no optical drive) but it must be very rugged and have long battery life. Please re-read Amorph's posts on this topic on several other threads on this board.
  • Reply 12 of 53
    Composer, I like what you did with the guy's stuff. More direct, more Apple. More intriguing.



    I love the design on this. This is what I imagine an Apple tablet to be.



    The new new iMac (3).



    I think it looks superb. Not too far away.



    My recent thoughts lean to Apple launching a 'big' iPod 'computer'. And this might be something like what I'm envisioning. Many PC owners won't buy a Mac but are buying the iPod in greater numbers. Would they buy an iPod 'Mac'?



    I like the portrait mode (so you get to see an a4 page without requiring a 20 inch monitor...). I'm guessing when non-docked you could use it in horizontal mode too. Something like this could be great for iChat AV, for Apple's handwriting tech'...



    I like this alot. If all Apple release on 24th Jan' is a G5 iMac with a design bump then a real opportunity would have been lost. I hope they do something more groundbreaking like this.



    Lemon Bon Bon
  • Reply 13 of 53
    Quote:

    I like the movie very much. It's very attractive. I would buy the product if it came out. It should be reasonably inexpensive (no optical drive) but it must be very rugged and have long battery life. Please re-read Amorph's posts on this topic on several other threads on this board.



    Agreed.



    It's stunning. I think I'd buy that.



    Lemon Bon Bon
  • Reply 14 of 53
    Shoot, I'd buy it.
  • Reply 15 of 53
    maskermasker Posts: 451member




    I'll buy one.



    MSKR
  • Reply 16 of 53
    Good Lord !



    I'd buy all these products - and I don't believe that it's only a niche market. HD-based MP3-players were a niche until iPod came....



    I'd rather argue that it's not the demand that's lacking, but decent products - some of the Windows-based tablets were awefull failures.



    Concerning the convertible vs. slate argument - it's "unworthy" in the age of bluetooth keybords.



    I'am not an expert, but I can't imagine it to be too difficult to rip the keyboard out of the existing PowerBook design and instead integrate the display. Keyboard functionality could, whenever the user wishes it, be added via bluetooth conncetion.



    A specific keyboard could also serve as stand for the slate (...see the current HP-design...).



    The limiting factor in design terms seems to me the display: it would need to be touch-sensitive and have better optical characteristics. You would need to be able to work for it in "normal", laptop-style landscape mode, but also in portrait-mode - and there are still big difficulties in providing decent viewing angles for both of them.



    However, I hope it's only a question of time before these issues are resolved because I WANT one of these things. Working with such a solution would give to me the ultimate degree of freedom: normal laptop functionality in landscape mode, the BT-keyboard serving as stand. On the road: the perfect device to read documents or magazines (e.g. Zingy) and quickly and intuitively take notes, make corrections, sketch concepts etc. via the stylus.



    Another important aspect (...after all, business is 90% psychology): SJ declared once that a real computer needs to have a keyboard - people with egos like him don't like to be shown wrong. And the BT-keyboard provides a gracefull exit opportunity from this rather unintelligent statement :-)



    Again, I hope they make up their mind in Cupertino on the issue, because, at the risk of repeating myself: I WANT ONE - or there is a real risk that I'll switch the wrong way one day !
  • Reply 17 of 53
    ...some reflections about the technical side, which I forgot in the previous posting:



    Apple being fond of intelligent new approaches to computer engineering could well use a tablet device to experimtent with some new configurations:



    - no optical drive; instead, external device or hooking up to other Mac via Rendezvous.

    - operating system on Flash-ROM or something similar; must be upgradable, though

    - no hard drive; instead, fast-access SD-Cards for limited amount of storage of most important data and programs. Maybe two slots, 1 for programs, 1 for data - you only slide in the cards you currently need.



    Now the idea: instead of the missing "standard items" an expansion bay to host additional modules

    - module 1: additional battery to work in "limited mode" (only SD-storage): good for working on limited amount of documents, surfing the web via Airport etc.

    - module 2: iPod serving as HD-module and taking full advantage of the home-on-the-iPod functionality, allowing easy transfer of all date from the "grown-up" Mac to work on it on the tablet.



    Some beauties to this concept:

    No canibalization of existing PowerBook / iBook - line, since clearly not a fully featured laptop

    Like the iPod, allowing a transition to the Windows world: if they can sync mp3-files with Windows, they can sync other files, too, with the Windows world. You would only need to take out the iPod-module, connect it via FW or USB to the PC and hit the sync-button on a nice little piece of software. Would work for Office documents and other standard file formats.



    The choice of mini or big iPod as module would only be a question of the form factor. The deliberate choice to limit the capabilities of the machine PLUS the smaller form factor would of course favour the choice of the mini-iPod. But progress in storage technology is so fast, that we can safely assume to see bigger capacities on the small iPods very soon.
  • Reply 18 of 53
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    I still like my idea of snapping an iPod into a screen/shell. The iPod could host the processor and the data on the harddrive, while the screen would provide extra battery power and maybe more processor. Palm size to Newton size to Tablet size. Mix and match depending on your needs.
  • Reply 19 of 53
    Some random thoughts;
    • You don't want something like the G4 in this, really. Not the G5 (sadly). Too hot... Isn't Apple working with IBM on a new chip that produces less heat etc., at the cost of being slower? Something like that would be ideal.

    • Hard Drive: you don't really want to be running off SD memory all the time. Put the 4GB drive in from the iPod mini, at least - that should be enough for the OS and most of the program files? Have options to upgrade this to bigger ones, and use the iPod for storage. This could also provide some limited amount of upgradability, but more like the upgradability of the Cube or iMac.

    • Ports - you don't need that many, Have USB x1 (you can then use a hub to increase this if you need more), FireWire x1 (400Mb/s, 800 would be unnecessary). Throw in miniDV out too, so you can output to a bigger monitor. Possibly also have a specialised connection on the bottom, like the iPod. This would then plug into a base unit that has more connectiors - you would then be able to plug a keyboard of your choice (or a special laptop-style one for portability)into this via USB (or when on the move use the USB on the tablet itself. Charging would also be done through this, as well as being able to plug the charger directly into the machine.

    • Screen: this wants to be functional with both a pen-like stylus, as well as with a finger. We're looking at about A5 sized, so probably just running at 800x600, maybe just 1024x768 if they can get the pixels small enough.

    • Wireless connectivity - definately bluetooth, also WiFi at 54Mb/s (or maybe only 11Mb/s, but I doubt it). Also, have a wireless reciever for the mouse, possibly keyboard, built in.

    • Software: I'd have thought MacOS would do the job, really. Maybe modified (read: reskinned slightly) so that buttons etc. were bigger. I'd expect people to use design and photograph software with this, e.g. photoshop, maybe CAD etc. So the machine should be able to cope with running these easily. We don't need real-time video editing or anything like that, by any stretch of the imagination.

    • Battery life: here lies the problem. We want iPod-equivalent of 8 hours, ideally. The tablet just isn't useful enough if it's plugged in every few hours.

    The expandability I describe is very like the ipod method - some ports on the iPod, charges through specialised connection, and dock adds extra functionality. Hope all that makes sense...



    Edit: forgot a few things. Bluetooth onwards.
  • Reply 20 of 53
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Mike Peel

    Screen: this wants to be functional with both a pen-like stylus, as well as with a finger. We're looking at about A5 sized, so probably just running at 800x600, maybe just 1024x768 if they can get the pixels small enough.



    Software: I'd have thought MacOS would do the job, really. Maybe modified (read: reskinned slightly) so that buttons etc. were bigger. I'd expect people to use design and photograph software with this, e.g. photoshop, maybe CAD etc. So the machine should be able to cope with running these easily. We don't need real-time video editing or anything like that, by any stretch of the imagination.



    These two points don't work together. Designer's will want a pressure sensitive tablet to work in graphics applications like Illustrator and Photoshop. As I understand this technology it required an active stylus and is different than the technology used in touch sensative screens similar to those used in Palm's which do not require a specialized stylus.
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