Is Hip Hop music here to stay?
I enjoy some of the stuff, as well as occasional hard core Rap. But I got to wonder whether this genre is here for good. Obviously very popular among the black community but also with "wanna be black," white kids.
After seeing a program of how rich some of these Rap artists are (and their spending habits), I hoped they've saved for a rainy day. One only needs to look back at MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Tone Loc to see where you can end up.
After seeing a program of how rich some of these Rap artists are (and their spending habits), I hoped they've saved for a rainy day. One only needs to look back at MC Hammer, Vanilla Ice, and Tone Loc to see where you can end up.
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Originally posted by Paul
is POP music here to stay?
Huh?
It's only been around for decades...unless you're equating hiphop with pop.
it is the new popular music...
Originally posted by Paul
it is the new popular music...
So was disco, punk, and new age.
Some might argue that disco is still around, but music genres don't all remain popular for extended periods. Popular groups like the Bee Gees had a run of 5-6 years...after that, they were ridiculed and couldn't get any airplay.
The same fate could fall upon hip hop.
Originally posted by satchmo
Obviously very popular among the black community but also with "wanna be black," white kids.
And, uh, people who just happen to like hip-hop music.
Originally posted by satchmo
So was disco, punk, and new age.
All of which still exist today (in there are still people recording, releasing and selling music in all these genres). They just don't have as high a profile as they once did.
I would say yes, hip-hop is definitely here to stay. It will undoubtedly change and eventually another genre will replace it...but it will continue to exist in one form or another as long as people are interested in rhythm, melody and ideas.
If a musical genre dies it is because it speaks only for the time it was created and no longer speaks to new listners because the circumstances of their time is different.
Thats really why I don't listen to hip-hop. Its lame.
I wish it would go away but all the white thugs with hondas would have nothing to listen to on their killer system that daddy paid for...
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Originally posted by Mount_my_floppy
You can only Rap about how much money you have so much before it gets old and its getting pretty freaking old.
Thats really why I don't listen to hip-hop. Its lame.
I wish it would go away but all the white thugs with hondas would have nothing to listen to on their killer system that daddy paid for...
[/angry rant]
Then don't listen to main stream hip-hop then. There is some really good stuff out there. I haven't bought many CDs lately (because of price, mainly), and the last 3 hip-hop CDs I bought (Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious, Phrenology by the Roots, and Speakerboxxx/The Love Below by Outkast) don't fit into the category that you've created (ok, the Love Below is all about sex, but it's melodic and catchy).
something that was considered "pop" back then isn't necessarily "pop now...
one good example would be heh well anything from the 80s!
music changes... but the names stay the same...
will there be "rap" as we know it today 10 years from now? nota clue....
but "rap" has been around a long time and is constantly evolving... you can see "rap" in almost every genre... I think the only one that is left is country...
I think people put too much effort into categorizing their tastes, and avoiding music.
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
My philosophy is, "if it sounds good, I'll listen to it"
I think people put too much effort into categorizing their tastes, and avoiding music.
True that. Who cares what it's called or where it comes from as long as it sounds good.
For the record I dont really listen to hip hop, and it seems to be just a conglomeration of styles these days.. base beat, vocals, rap, and a couple of techno riffs thrown in, a little something for everbody (generic).
But then again its not like these hip hop artists (record companies) are selling music, its all about the image...
and of course there are plenty (not really sure, havnt looked) of exceptions !
Originally posted by groverat
Yes, hip-hop is here to stay. Welcome to 1990.
yeah hip hop has been around for along time and will stay
Originally posted by AsLan^
it seems to be just a conglomeration of styles these days.. base beat, vocals, rap, and a couple of techno riffs thrown in, a little something for everbody (generic).
Which must be something like 90% of all pop music, [music that has] something for everybody. [designed to sell in volume, quantity over quality and all that]
The one notable exception is Eminem, who (like him or not) is not only one of the most talented hip-hop artists ever, but also arguably one of the greatest poets of our time.
I'm sure there's really good hip-hop folks out there today who just aren't getting any publicity or air time, but that applies to any genre of music. 'Pop' music is just what's popular at the time, and that's often dictated by what gets played on the radio and TV, and THAT is decided on the basis of marketing, not on any particular standard of talent or quality. The majority of everything to do with entertainment is crap. People who care enough to try can always dig up a few gems.
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
My philosophy is, "if it sounds good, I'll listen to it"
I think people put too much effort into categorizing their tastes, and avoiding music.
This is such a great point you make!
Fellowship
However it also happens that Hip-Pop is the current fashion-music, all the commercial popsters are imitating serious artists to sell records, and it sounds like crap.
It makes me sick how any slick producer can throw together that same-old worn-out drum loop and some cheap drum'n'bass-esque synths and make a fortune out of it as long as the singer has a sixpack for his fans to scream about.
It also gets me how so many frauds get popular by going on and on about "the streets" and how "street" and tough they are and how great it is to carry a gun and kneecap the people who disaggree with you. It's not clever, all it does is spread hatred and cause violence, and (sadly) sell records. It's obvious when an artist really has lived on the streets and is still in touch with the culture, and they're not the ones who endorse
shoot-outs.
I think Influenza's description on Pop music pretty much sums it up.
</my angry rant>
So yes, Hip-Hop is probably here to stay although I dare say it will evolve somewhat like all music, Hip-Pop though, hopefully that will be gone forever after not too long.
Andrew