Are you ish'ing me? Can they at least pretend they wrote the speech, and aren't reading it for the 1st time? "Democratic Response?" They wrote this thing weeks in advance and would have said it even if gwb resigned during his speech.
I loved when GW paused after saying "The Patriot Act is due to expire next year", and a few brave Dems inserted some applause right there.
A few of you got on my case a couple of weeks ago when I talked about GW wanting to amend the Constitution to limit rather than expand freedom, specifically wanting to ban gay marriage and flag "desecration" -- as if this were some sort of made-up issue on my part. Well, at least as far as gay marriage, there it was right in GW's State of the Union. Yes, still damned unlikely to be passed, but even using such talk to pander to your constituency is pretty sad, especially in a State of the Union address.
Most blatant and cheesy moment of patting himself on the back: When Bush talked about visiting the troops, specifically mentioning the aircraft carrier and Thanksgiving. All I could think was "My fellow Americans, please remember my wonderful photo ops from this past year."
When it came time for the Dems to give their response, I agreed with much of the substance of what they were saying, but I think that both Pelosi and Daschle should have put a little more effort into practicing their damned speeches. When you make Dubya seem eloquent by comparison, something's gone badly wrong. Pelosi looked like she was afraid of blinking and losing a contact lens.
must work together to counter the negative influence of the culture
there it is . . . from the transcript
is this some kind of code for stroking his radical-right base?
is it just another code for 'hollywood elite' which itself is just another code for 'Jews'? hmm? of course that's just extreme paranoia on my part . . .
but there is something odd about that phrase: 'The culture" . . . . what culture? his culture?
He has won my vote, as in Independant I see Bush as being the only candidate that is able to speak from the heart. Now, I dont agree with everything he says, how can anyone? I just think he is one of the least bitter politicians left in the country today, you cant say that isnt true, just to see the faces of Ted Kennedy and Hillary tonight confirmed one thing to me: Some high ranking Democrats have zero respect for the office (Clinton proved it). It is just not right to be so bitter, conteptuous, (to boo a presidential speech? wow) and closed minded. I honestly listened to what the man had to say, I thought about why Bush thinks and believes in the things he does, and then compared them to why I think and believe what I think. If I go deep beneath the obvious and simple surface of the issues, I find I agree more often than not with his positions.
I can't even watch him. I tried. I keep thinking... yeaaaah right.
Oh that'll work?!
Sanctity of marriage?! That's important? They showed Rick Santorum leering over at the democrats when that line went. Yeah Rick we know that's your issue.
Savings accounts?!
Libya?! He took credit for libya. wtf.
A permission slip? Dude. Go to the prinicpals's office... you've been suspended.
President's get scolded often in SOTU. HE says something and they say to each other... like hell you will. Especially when the democrats have been shut out of the process in the congress as they have been this session.
I don't see him looking smug I see him "speaking from his heart" in that he believes what he says . .
its just that he coded everything so that it shows only the sides that will appeal to the volk, while still allowing his base to understand
so he believes . . . so what?!
its what he believes that I don't like
actually . . .I take all that back . . . I don't think he believes himself . ..after all he has blatantly lied to the people about his motivations before and had the same psuedo-amiable tone of the down-home good old boy . . . why has he changed all of a sudden . . .
Well Bush has my vote. I didn't agree with everything he said, but he has something everyone else seems to lack. He believes in something. He doesn't seem intent on pure politick and ambition, he believes that he has a vision for a better America. Bush seems to have the kind of belief that can carry a man thru the desert without food and water for days. As long as people can keep that belief in check for him, I think he will be good for leading the nation. If that belief turns on itself and fuels the kind of blind belief that we see in terrorists, we better watch-out.
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If these asshats don't talk about gay marriage they are useless to me.
Originally posted by rageous
Daschle is stumbling badly over a lot of his words and fracturing many more sentences than Bush did. I wouldn't say this is kick ass.
that's fine. his speaking style is undeniably more natural and he's way more articulate. I thought the substance of his speech was kick-ass.
A few of you got on my case a couple of weeks ago when I talked about GW wanting to amend the Constitution to limit rather than expand freedom, specifically wanting to ban gay marriage and flag "desecration" -- as if this were some sort of made-up issue on my part. Well, at least as far as gay marriage, there it was right in GW's State of the Union. Yes, still damned unlikely to be passed, but even using such talk to pander to your constituency is pretty sad, especially in a State of the Union address.
Most blatant and cheesy moment of patting himself on the back: When Bush talked about visiting the troops, specifically mentioning the aircraft carrier and Thanksgiving. All I could think was "My fellow Americans, please remember my wonderful photo ops from this past year."
When it came time for the Dems to give their response, I agreed with much of the substance of what they were saying, but I think that both Pelosi and Daschle should have put a little more effort into practicing their damned speeches. When you make Dubya seem eloquent by comparison, something's gone badly wrong. Pelosi looked like she was afraid of blinking and losing a contact lens.
Screed
must work together to counter the negative influence of the culture
there it is . . . from the transcript
is this some kind of code for stroking his radical-right base?
is it just another code for 'hollywood elite' which itself is just another code for 'Jews'? hmm? of course that's just extreme paranoia on my part . . .
but there is something odd about that phrase: 'The culture" . . . . what culture? his culture?
Gay culture?
hip-hop culture?
Neo-con culture
Corporate culture?
Yogurt?
Oh that'll work?!
Sanctity of marriage?! That's important? They showed Rick Santorum leering over at the democrats when that line went. Yeah Rick we know that's your issue.
Savings accounts?!
Libya?! He took credit for libya. wtf.
A permission slip? Dude. Go to the prinicpals's office... you've been suspended.
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Was there really booing?
I missed that.
I didn't see Hillary as looking contemptuous at all . . . she was even smiling and clapping . . . you are just looking for what you want to find.
Some people see Hillary looking contemptuous, others see Bush looking smug.
Goes both ways.
Cuz you apparently have never seen one.
President's get scolded often in SOTU. HE says something and they say to each other... like hell you will. Especially when the democrats have been shut out of the process in the congress as they have been this session.
its just that he coded everything so that it shows only the sides that will appeal to the volk, while still allowing his base to understand
so he believes . . . so what?!
its what he believes that I don't like
actually . . .I take all that back . . . I don't think he believes himself . ..after all he has blatantly lied to the people about his motivations before and had the same psuedo-amiable tone of the down-home good old boy . . . why has he changed all of a sudden . . .
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
If I go deep beneath the obvious and simple surface of the issues, I find I agree more often than not with his positions.
This surprises me...I see Bush as appealing to the lowest common denominator...could you elaborate please?