Virginia Tech != Virginia - I'm sure some people both at VT and UVA are offended by the carelessness of the original poster. I know I would be offended if you said "North Carolina" in reference to North Carolina State.
It seems odd to me that they would build it with PM desktops when you just know the rack mount would come out sooner or later. Seems as though they had a deal up front.
Macminute reports that the Feds are getting interested: Argonne National Lab, the National Security Agency, and NASA.
Nice! One step closer to enterprise interest.
Screed
Found the reprint of the article at EE Times, which would not be anything noteworthy were it not for yet another piece of analyst BS here in Enterprise Linux section of Newsfactor.
Is it me or are these stories mutually exclusive? Either the VaTech setup is useful in supercomputer circles and Apple are seen to be creating a viable platform alongside the value-add that VaTec have created, or the Forrester guy is correct.
Personally, I know which I think is true - although I hope Apple's incredulity to the original VaTech approach is not a sign of old personality flaws beginning to surface again.
I did some calculations and the present space occupied by the G5's minus the three support bars would yield space for a total of 2760 x-servers or 5520 processors.
This is several hundred more than the Japanese Earth Simulator, and faster processors as well.
What is really going on here is Steve Jobs ego, and I think he's going for it and VT knows this.
He got kicked out by morons, his ideas stolen by Gates, stupid Beatles lawsuit over a name, etc.
And if VT got a few hundred students to work for Pepsi and Pizza, you know they are haggling over this baby.
This could open the floodgates for Apple for quite some time, if it hasn't already.
Maybe I don't fully get all this Supercomputer business, but it all sounds like a ridiculous waste of time and money to me. Over and beyond it all, it seems to be just a bunch of geeks with way too much time and money on their hands. Where does the money come from? Do the benefits really outweigh the expense?
Maybe I don't fully get all this Supercomputer business, but it all sounds like a ridiculous waste of time and money to me. Over and beyond it all, it seems to be just a bunch of geeks with way too much time and money on their hands. Where does the money come from? Do the benefits really outweigh the expense?
In VT's case, it was a recruiting tool. They wanted to prove to prospectives that their CS dept. is strong. And they succeeded, or so I imagine.
About the Earth Simulator and going for el numero uno, I think it would actually take more G5s, simply because the Earth Simulator is actually all one computer - it's not a cluster. So, it has less diminishing gains. But that's just a guess - I'm no computer scientist.
That can't be the driving reason. No CS department is going to spend millions to attract a bunch of high school students.
ah, but these "high school students" become customers if the roose is successful. each one paying a few grand (i haven't looked at tech's tuition, but colleges these days can cost tens of thousands per year, maybe more). if the amount of new revenue from an increased amount of students doesn't cover the cost, then other factors may. with the influx, they grow an increased chance of getting brilliant students (ontop of those they already have). these brilliants invent the next best thing, and say "it's all thanks to tech, and that wonderous supercomputer which convinced me to school there." press hears about this and writes up stories. then even more students read these "stories" and say "hey, i'd like to throw va tech a hundred grand or so to allow me to school near this supercomputer." and thus, the circle grows into a spiral. and the spiral swirls all the way to the bank.
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"They All Laughed"
music by George Gershwin and lyrics by Ira Gershwin
They all laughed at Christopher Columbus
When he said the world was round
They all laughed when Edison recorded sound
They all laughed at Wilbur and his brother
When they said that man could fly
They told Marconi
Wireless was a phony
It's the same old cry
They laughed at me wanting you
Said I was reaching for the moon
But oh, you came through
Now they'll have to change their tune
They all said we never could be happy
They laughed at us and how!
But ho, ho, ho!
Who's got the last laugh now?
They all laughed at Rockefeller Center
Now they're fighting to get in
They all laughed at Whitney and his cotton gin
They all laughed at Fulton and his steamboat
Hershey and his chocolate bar
Ford and his Lizzie
Kept the laughers busy
That's how people are
They laughed at me wanting you
Said it would be, "Hello, Goodbye."
And oh, you came through
Now they're eating humble pie
They all said we'd never get together
Darling, let's take a bow
For ho, ho, ho!
Who's got the last laugh?
Hee, hee, hee!
Let's at the past laugh
Ha, ha, ha!
Who's got the last laugh now?"
Originally posted by Ichiban_jay
I hope no one else already did this
hmmm i wonder what speed they'll get
Nice! One step closer to enterprise interest.
Screed
Originally posted by sCreeD
Macminute reports that the Feds are getting interested: Argonne National Lab, the National Security Agency, and NASA.
Nice! One step closer to enterprise interest.
Screed
Found the reprint of the article at EE Times, which would not be anything noteworthy were it not for yet another piece of analyst BS here in Enterprise Linux section of Newsfactor.
Is it me or are these stories mutually exclusive? Either the VaTech setup is useful in supercomputer circles and Apple are seen to be creating a viable platform alongside the value-add that VaTec have created, or the Forrester guy is correct.
Personally, I know which I think is true - although I hope Apple's incredulity to the original VaTech approach is not a sign of old personality flaws beginning to surface again.
Originally posted by tonton
Why to take over the world, of course!
no seriousley...what is it for?
Originally posted by PS5533
no seriousley...what is it for?
Physics/dynamics systems modeling, nuclear simulations, genetic mappings and simulations, etc.
Finding really big prime numbers.
There are a *lot* of calculations for which your typical PC can't scratch the surface.
Originally posted by Brad
Physics/dynamics systems modeling, nuclear simulations, genetic mappings and simulations, etc.
Finding really big prime numbers.
There are a *lot* of calculations for which your typical PC can't scratch the surface.
oh i c thanks for the explanation
This is several hundred more than the Japanese Earth Simulator, and faster processors as well.
What is really going on here is Steve Jobs ego, and I think he's going for it and VT knows this.
He got kicked out by morons, his ideas stolen by Gates, stupid Beatles lawsuit over a name, etc.
And if VT got a few hundred students to work for Pepsi and Pizza, you know they are haggling over this baby.
This could open the floodgates for Apple for quite some time, if it hasn't already.
Returning the supercomputer champion to USA?
SJ wouldn't miss it for the world.
Originally posted by Patchouli
Maybe I don't fully get all this Supercomputer business, but it all sounds like a ridiculous waste of time and money to me. Over and beyond it all, it seems to be just a bunch of geeks with way too much time and money on their hands. Where does the money come from? Do the benefits really outweigh the expense?
In VT's case, it was a recruiting tool. They wanted to prove to prospectives that their CS dept. is strong. And they succeeded, or so I imagine.
About the Earth Simulator and going for el numero uno, I think it would actually take more G5s, simply because the Earth Simulator is actually all one computer - it's not a cluster. So, it has less diminishing gains. But that's just a guess - I'm no computer scientist.
High on supercomputer list = more grants.
Originally posted by bauman
In VT's case, it was a recruiting tool. They wanted to prove to prospectives that their CS dept. is strong. And they succeeded, or so I imagine.
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That can't be the driving reason. No CS department is going to spend millions to attract a bunch of high school students.
Originally posted by Scott
That can't be the driving reason. No CS department is going to spend millions to attract a bunch of high school students.
ah, but these "high school students" become customers if the roose is successful. each one paying a few grand (i haven't looked at tech's tuition, but colleges these days can cost tens of thousands per year, maybe more). if the amount of new revenue from an increased amount of students doesn't cover the cost, then other factors may. with the influx, they grow an increased chance of getting brilliant students (ontop of those they already have). these brilliants invent the next best thing, and say "it's all thanks to tech, and that wonderous supercomputer which convinced me to school there." press hears about this and writes up stories. then even more students read these "stories" and say "hey, i'd like to throw va tech a hundred grand or so to allow me to school near this supercomputer." and thus, the circle grows into a spiral. and the spiral swirls all the way to the bank.
Originally posted by jwri004
I also believe they get grants.
High on supercomputer list = more grants.
as i said b4 i don't know much about the supercomputers but i know thats not why