It's always the argument of "stay on the present course" versus "give someone else a chance to do better"
The Democratic side is much more energized this time around versus last time. Fewer will break ranks to vote for Bush.
You can try and tell yourself that Bush has no chance of losing... but it's foolish.
he's not hugely popular... his negatives are high... the economy is not where it needs to be and the Iraq situation is just one long daily body count. Over 500 dead now.
You guys arguing about who has the bigger war chest are making me laugh. Here's a little litmus test for you: everyone who has access to any candidate's bank account, raise your hand.
Oh. No one? That's right, *we don't know* how much money they have, because we aren't managing the account, writing the checks, cashing the checks that come in, etc.
It's clear that Dean has probably spent big money on his web presence alone but short of looking at his media presence and ascertaining how much those things cost generally, we can't even really know what he has spent. Let alone what he has left. This stuff is not a matter of public record AFAIK, even though there are rules governing contibutions and such.
you know, this whole election process is a joke. its ridiculous how wrapped up people get in everything. i'm all for the actual voting part, but everybody makes these primaries out to be bigger than the election itself. our whole society is a joke really. stupid people in masses. that's the only way to describe all those people freaking out over how many fractions of percents these candidates get... ok... back to my lovely mac...
I most respectfully could not disagree with you more....
The process of organizing and running a cross country campaign twice gives the electorate an idea of how effectively a candidate will manage the vast federal government. Thank heavens we have seen (albeit spun by the media) how Dean's management style works before he took the Oath of Office.
I know about consultants and assistants and such; but such people are ultimately selected by the candidate and they do reflect upon the judgement of the candidate.
By contrast, only about 12% of Kerry's and Bush's contributions come from contributions less than $200. 55% of Kerry's and 73% of Bush's contributions come in $2000 increments. Only 3% of John Edwards' money comes from contributions less than $200.
It's always the argument of "stay on the present course" versus "give someone else a chance to do better"
The Democratic side is much more energized this time around versus last time. Fewer will break ranks to vote for Bush.
You can try and tell yourself that Bush has no chance of losing... but it's foolish.
he's not hugely popular... his negatives are high... the economy is not where it needs to be and the Iraq situation is just one long daily body count. Over 500 dead now.
Don't put words in my mouth. He does have a chance of losing...but not a big one. The Democrats are nowhere near as energized as a party. The Left Wing of the party is very energized. The party on the whole is split.
As for Bush, he commands a job performance rating in the upper fifties most of the time. The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. And let's not forget, Kerry voted for it despite his spinning to contrary. The Repubblicans will kill him with that, just like the rest of his Massachussetts Elitist Rich Liberal voting record.
Don't put words in my mouth. He does have a chance of losing...but not a big one. The Democrats are nowhere near as energized as a party. The Left Wing of the party is very energized. The party on the whole is split.
As for Bush, he commands a job performance rating in the upper fifties most of the time. The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. And let's not forget, Kerry voted for it despite his spinning to contrary. The Repubblicans will kill him with that, just like the rest of his Massachussetts Elitist Rich Liberal voting record.
" The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. "
Why the personal attack? If dean doesn't win and the democrat nominee does then ambassador to canada aint such a bad job for him,
I'm not sure where you got the 'personal attack' from in my reply. A statement without explanation is, in my view, obtuse. Now that you'lve kinda cleared that up you're returning to your typical (a)cute self.
Why Canada, though? (just so we can clear up all of this obtuse nonsense.)
I'm not sure where you got the 'personal attack' from in my reply. A statement without explanation is, in my view, obtuse. Now that you'lve kinda cleared that up you're returning to your typical (a)cute self.
Why Canada, though? (just so we can clear up all of this obtuse nonsense.)
"The Dean campaign has spent about $8.5 million overall in this race, with the majority of that, over $5 million, being between Iowa and New Hampshire," said CNN consultant Evan Tracey of TNS Media Intelligence.
About 42 million raised and 8.5 million spent. And he just raised another cool million in the past 4 days.
What the hell are people talking about him running out of money? It doesn't seem to be based on any facts other than that staffer paycheck-hold which could be for numerous other reasons.
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The country is fairly evenly split.
It's always the argument of "stay on the present course" versus "give someone else a chance to do better"
The Democratic side is much more energized this time around versus last time. Fewer will break ranks to vote for Bush.
You can try and tell yourself that Bush has no chance of losing... but it's foolish.
he's not hugely popular... his negatives are high... the economy is not where it needs to be and the Iraq situation is just one long daily body count. Over 500 dead now.
Originally posted by Scott
Maybe Dean can be ambassador to Canada?
Do you mean that he can travel the world spreading word of the fiscal irresponsibility of the US?
Or does he like hockey?
Perhaps you can be a little less obtuse. No?
Originally posted by Eugene
Kerry sleeps with a far bigger war-chest than Dean has.
Ah but there are election rules you must consider. She can only donate $2000 (or is it 20,000) to his campaign.
Oh. No one? That's right, *we don't know* how much money they have, because we aren't managing the account, writing the checks, cashing the checks that come in, etc.
It's clear that Dean has probably spent big money on his web presence alone but short of looking at his media presence and ascertaining how much those things cost generally, we can't even really know what he has spent. Let alone what he has left. This stuff is not a matter of public record AFAIK, even though there are rules governing contibutions and such.
Originally posted by ipodandimac
you know, this whole election process is a joke. its ridiculous how wrapped up people get in everything. i'm all for the actual voting part, but everybody makes these primaries out to be bigger than the election itself. our whole society is a joke really. stupid people in masses. that's the only way to describe all those people freaking out over how many fractions of percents these candidates get... ok... back to my lovely mac...
I most respectfully could not disagree with you more....
The process of organizing and running a cross country campaign twice gives the electorate an idea of how effectively a candidate will manage the vast federal government. Thank heavens we have seen (albeit spun by the media) how Dean's management style works before he took the Oath of Office.
I know about consultants and assistants and such; but such people are ultimately selected by the candidate and they do reflect upon the judgement of the candidate.
One Chain of Command; that's Management 001
Aries 1B
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=3496
Aries 1B
http://www.blogforamerica.com/
By contrast, only about 12% of Kerry's and Bush's contributions come from contributions less than $200. 55% of Kerry's and 73% of Bush's contributions come in $2000 increments. Only 3% of John Edwards' money comes from contributions less than $200.
http://www.opensecrets.org/president...rmat=&sortby=S
It's funny that the tag line is about individual rights... when we know corporations stomp on those rights as much as law enforcement does.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
It's always the President's race to lose.
The country is fairly evenly split.
It's always the argument of "stay on the present course" versus "give someone else a chance to do better"
The Democratic side is much more energized this time around versus last time. Fewer will break ranks to vote for Bush.
You can try and tell yourself that Bush has no chance of losing... but it's foolish.
he's not hugely popular... his negatives are high... the economy is not where it needs to be and the Iraq situation is just one long daily body count. Over 500 dead now.
Don't put words in my mouth. He does have a chance of losing...but not a big one. The Democrats are nowhere near as energized as a party. The Left Wing of the party is very energized. The party on the whole is split.
As for Bush, he commands a job performance rating in the upper fifties most of the time. The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. And let's not forget, Kerry voted for it despite his spinning to contrary. The Repubblicans will kill him with that, just like the rest of his Massachussetts Elitist Rich Liberal voting record.
Originally posted by SDW2001
Don't put words in my mouth. He does have a chance of losing...but not a big one. The Democrats are nowhere near as energized as a party. The Left Wing of the party is very energized. The party on the whole is split.
As for Bush, he commands a job performance rating in the upper fifties most of the time. The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. And let's not forget, Kerry voted for it despite his spinning to contrary. The Repubblicans will kill him with that, just like the rest of his Massachussetts Elitist Rich Liberal voting record.
Man your capcity for denial is astounding.
I love this part......
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" The economy is in good shape....and the only issue left fot the Dems there is jobs. We'll see how that goes. As for Iraq, I understand that there have been casaulties, but the numbers are still very low. The American people have yet to become "fatigued" about it. The majority of the country still supports the war, btw. "
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As an extra special treat...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/01/28/spr...kay/index.html
And this........
http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/29/news...reut/index.htm
And this.......
http://money.cnn.com/2004/01/29/news...less/index.htm
Originally posted by audiopollution
Do you mean that he can travel the world spreading word of the fiscal irresponsibility of the US?
Or does he like hockey?
Perhaps you can be a little less obtuse. No?
Why the personal attack? If dean doesn't win and the democrat nominee does then ambassador to canada aint such a bad job for him,
Originally posted by Scott
Why the personal attack? If dean doesn't win and the democrat nominee does then ambassador to canada aint such a bad job for him,
I'm not sure where you got the 'personal attack' from in my reply. A statement without explanation is, in my view, obtuse. Now that you'lve kinda cleared that up you're returning to your typical (a)cute self.
Why Canada, though? (just so we can clear up all of this obtuse nonsense.)
Originally posted by billybobsky
Ah but there are election rules you must consider. She can only donate $2000 (or is it 20,000) to his campaign.
Oh come on now. You know better than that.
Originally posted by audiopollution
I'm not sure where you got the 'personal attack' from in my reply. A statement without explanation is, in my view, obtuse. Now that you'lve kinda cleared that up you're returning to your typical (a)cute self.
Why Canada, though? (just so we can clear up all of this obtuse nonsense.)
What state is he from? Where is it located?
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ain/index.html
"The Dean campaign has spent about $8.5 million overall in this race, with the majority of that, over $5 million, being between Iowa and New Hampshire," said CNN consultant Evan Tracey of TNS Media Intelligence.
About 42 million raised and 8.5 million spent. And he just raised another cool million in the past 4 days.
What the hell are people talking about him running out of money? It doesn't seem to be based on any facts other than that staffer paycheck-hold which could be for numerous other reasons.