Are all of the current PB's faster than my iMac?

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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
I have an original iMac 800 Mhz G4 Superdrive model with 256 MB of RAM. I am wondering if this is as fast or slower than any of the current Powerbook offerings from Apple. I mean, is it? My iMac is decently quick, but it does lag in rendering times and within certain applications. Would it be a noticeably faster upgrade to go with a current Powerbook? A Powermac on the low end?



Thanks.

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  • Reply 1 of 13
    I have a FP iMac 800 w/ 512 mb of memory w/ Superdrive and I just bought a 1Ghz 12 incher w/ 768 mb of memory. I can say without a doubt that my PB is faster in day to day stuff and all the iApps. Everything just feels snappier and opens quicker. Faster proc, memory, bus. Granted I have more memory in my PB but I don't think it would matter that much.



    Oh forgot to mention I'm running 10.3 on both.
  • Reply 2 of 13
    WOW! Nice to know its an improvement of noticeable magnitude! I am running Panther as well, thanks. This is wonderful news.
  • Reply 3 of 13
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    Yeah, Messiah...how would it not be?



    800MHz > 1GHz alone would result in some improvement, right?

    The bus, the cache, maybe the video card, etc.
  • Reply 4 of 13
    Quote:

    Originally posted by pscates

    Yeah, Messiah...how would it not be?



    800MHz > 1GHz alone would result in some improvement, right?

    The bus, the cache, maybe the video card, etc.




    I just thought that maybe the laptop and desktop difference might be cause for components to be slower? I guess its all the same stuff with Apple? In any case, if its greatly faster I cant see how my next computer wont be a Powerbook...except for that 'ol small penis disorder in which a Powermac would always be comforting...egomaniac that I am. I'm very seriously considering going portable, I hope it is the right move if I do.
  • Reply 5 of 13
    iMac hardware is usually mostly laptop hardware.
  • Reply 6 of 13
    Consider that your iMac has a faster hard drive and that some things on a Powerbook will be slower as a result of the 4200 rpm hard drive.



    However, you can replace it with a 7200 rpm IBM drive.



    All else considered, the Powerbook should be faster.



    If you want, I can post an xbench of my 15inch powerbook that you can compare with your iMac's score.
  • Reply 7 of 13
    The xbench thing would be helpful, thanks!
  • Reply 8 of 13
    Here you go. Look Closely at the Disk numbers at the bottom.



    Results\t114.66\t

    \tSystem Info\t\t

    \t\tXbench Version\t\t1.1.3

    \t\tSystem Version\t\t10.3.2 (7D24)

    \t\tPhysical RAM\t\t512 MB

    \t\tModel\t\tPowerBook5,2

    \t\tProcessor\t\tPowerPC G4 @ 1.25 GHz

    \t\t\tL1 Cache\t\t32K (instruction), 32K (data)

    \t\t\tL2 Cache\t\t512K @ 1.25 GHz

    \t\t\tBus Frequency\t\t167 MHz

    \t\tVideo Card\t\tATY,RV350M10

    \t\tDrive Type\t\tFUJITSU MHT2080AT

    \tCPU Test\t148.46\t

    \t\tGCD Loop\t134.13\t5.24 Mops/sec

    \t\tFloating Point Basic\t155.27\t561.49 Mflop/sec

    \t\tAltiVec Basic\t154.14\t4.48 Gflop/sec

    \t\tvecLib FFT\t155.48\t2.41 Gflop/sec

    \t\tFloating Point Library\t145.68\t5.83 Mops/sec

    \tThread Test\t104.09\t

    \t\tComputation\t76.06\t1.03 Mops/sec, 4 threads

    \t\tLock Contention\t164.84\t2.07 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

    \tMemory Test\t143.80\t

    \t\tSystem\t146.56\t

    \t\t\tAllocate\t731.73\t477.31 Kalloc/sec

    \t\t\tFill\t141.81\t1128.82 MB/sec

    \t\t\tCopy\t82.98\t414.89 MB/sec

    \t\tStream\t141.14\t

    \t\t\tCopy\t140.25\t1025.21 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tScale\t141.49\t1044.19 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tAdd\t143.08\t915.72 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tTriad\t139.78\t854.06 MB/sec [altivec]

    \tQuartz Graphics Test\t153.97\t

    \t\tLine\t133.07\t3.39 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tRectangle\t149.84\t10.54 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tCircle\t156.22\t3.60 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tBezier\t147.11\t1.60 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tText\t196.62\t3.20 Kchars/sec

    \tOpenGL Graphics Test\t98.36\t

    \t\tSpinning Squares\t98.36\t68.83 frames/sec

    \tUser Interface Test\t198.59\t

    \t\tElements\t198.59\t63.88 refresh/sec

    \tDisk Test\t62.28\t

    \t\tSequential\t67.85\t

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t63.06\t26.29 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t56.61\t23.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t116.25\t18.40 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t59.41\t24.00 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\tRandom\t57.56\t

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t66.16\t0.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t52.03\t11.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t54.78\t0.36 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t59.18\t12.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
  • Reply 9 of 13
    Damn Buckeye you kicked my ass!



    Results\t81.31\t

    \tSystem Info\t\t

    \t\tXbench Version\t\t1.1.3

    \t\tSystem Version\t\t10.3.2 (7D24)

    \t\tPhysical RAM\t\t256 MB

    \t\tModel\t\tPowerMac4,2

    \t\tProcessor\t\tPowerPC G4 @ 800 MHz

    \t\t\tVersion\t\t7450 (V'ger) v2.1

    \t\t\tL1 Cache\t\t32K (instruction), 32K (data)

    \t\t\tL2 Cache\t\t256K @ 800 MHz

    \t\t\tBus Frequency\t\t100 MHz

    \t\tVideo Card\t\tGeForce2 MX

    \t\tDrive Type\t\tMaxtor 4D060H3

    \tCPU Test\t94.09\t

    \t\tGCD Loop\t88.47\t3.45 Mops/sec

    \t\tFloating Point Basic\t95.70\t346.08 Mflop/sec

    \t\tAltiVec Basic\t97.46\t2.83 Gflop/sec

    \t\tvecLib FFT\t96.85\t1.50 Gflop/sec

    \t\tFloating Point Library\t92.59\t3.71 Mops/sec

    \tThread Test\t67.93\t

    \t\tComputation\t49.81\t672.41 Kops/sec, 4 threads

    \t\tLock Contention\t106.80\t1.34 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads

    \tMemory Test\t68.45\t

    \t\tSystem\t60.77\t

    \t\t\tAllocate\t524.58\t342.19 Kalloc/sec

    \t\t\tFill\t40.00\t318.38 MB/sec

    \t\t\tCopy\t44.52\t222.61 MB/sec

    \t\tStream\t78.36\t

    \t\t\tCopy\t73.84\t539.74 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tScale\t73.03\t538.98 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tAdd\t79.62\t509.59 MB/sec [altivec]

    \t\t\tTriad\t88.90\t543.15 MB/sec [altivec]

    \tQuartz Graphics Test\t86.38\t

    \t\tLine\t79.95\t2.04 Klines/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tRectangle\t68.09\t4.79 Krects/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tCircle\t90.91\t2.10 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tBezier\t87.03\t945.62 beziers/sec [50% alpha]

    \t\tText\t121.97\t1.99 Kchars/sec

    \tOpenGL Graphics Test\t85.87\t

    \t\tSpinning Squares\t85.87\t60.09 frames/sec

    \tUser Interface Test\t103.36\t

    \t\tElements\t103.36\t33.25 refresh/sec

    \tDisk Test\t75.54\t

    \t\tSequential\t82.22\t

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t85.77\t35.75 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t73.02\t29.90 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t101.27\t16.03 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t74.52\t30.11 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\tRandom\t69.86\t

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t65.39\t0.98 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Write\t78.79\t17.77 MB/sec [256K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t64.07\t0.42 MB/sec [4K blocks]

    \t\t\tUncached Read\t73.17\t15.06 MB/sec [256K blocks]
  • Reply 10 of 13
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    How you live with 256MB of RAM is beyond me. Seriously, buy another 256MB AT LEAST. Another 512 would be even better.



    You won't believe the speed boost.
  • Reply 11 of 13
    Quote:

    Originally posted by murbot

    How you live with 256MB of RAM is beyond me. Seriously, buy another 256MB AT LEAST. Another 512 would be even better.



    You won't believe the speed boost.




    See, I was under the impression that I wouldnt notice a speed boost really...I was told, "it wont be like a processor upgrade."



    But with all the video work I do, its getting disgustingly slow. I think youre right that I need to pop in a 512 chip.
  • Reply 12 of 13
    buckeyebuckeye Posts: 358member
    Buy ram and hold off on the Powerbook. I agree that you should have 512 in general and if you are doing video, you should have 768 - to 1 gig. It will make a HUGE difference.



    My DP533 still kicks ass on DV footage in FCP because I have a gig of RAM in the box.



    I am waiting for RAM prices to hopefully come down so that I can put a 1 gig chip in my powerbook. Unfortunately it will probably be quite a while. I may end up just getting 2 512s.
  • Reply 13 of 13
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Buy a stick of 256 or 512 you won't regret it.
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