Dean drops out!
CNN is reporting that Dean is "suspending" his campaign.
Well it's about time. He's been done since he finished a laughable third in Iowa (Pre-Scream). Now it's time for the other also rans to be excluded from the debates so the voters can see the only two viable candidates in debates and in media coverage.
Now the rest of us need to choose between the Senators John.
Quote:
Dean will leave his name on the ballot but "the campaign, as we have known it for the past 14 months, will cease to exist," the aide said.
Dean will leave his name on the ballot but "the campaign, as we have known it for the past 14 months, will cease to exist," the aide said.
Well it's about time. He's been done since he finished a laughable third in Iowa (Pre-Scream). Now it's time for the other also rans to be excluded from the debates so the voters can see the only two viable candidates in debates and in media coverage.
Now the rest of us need to choose between the Senators John.
Comments
I think that Governor Dean is STILL shaking his head, trying to figure out what the heck happened to him....guess he'll be doing it a little longer. Is there the possibility that he will in fact start his own breakaway political party? It seems as if the pundits are talking all around that possibility without actually coming out to state it. Why not? His message is sufficiently divergent from the mainstream Democratic party to allow that possibility. If he does it though I can't imagine it gaining any traction......but time will tell.
Originally posted by drewprops
Is there the possibility that he will in fact start his own breakaway political party? It seems as if the pundits are talking all around that possibility without actually coming out to state it. Why not? His message is sufficiently divergent from the mainstream Democratic party to allow that possibility. If he does it though I can't imagine it gaining any traction......but time will tell.
I'm actually VERY concerned about this possibility. Dean would for sure take voters from the Dem nominee. I don't blame Nader for the 2000 election fiasco, but one has to wonder "what if?" about that contest. It would make this election much more interesting but I'm not optimistic about the chance that GWB and the neo-cons would be ousted if it were to happen (my number one priority for this election).
Originally posted by drewprops
Do what John, do what John? Come again, do what?
I think that Governor Dean is STILL shaking his head, trying to figure out what the heck happened to him....guess he'll be doing it a little longer. Is there the possibility that he will in fact start his own breakaway political party? It seems as if the pundits are talking all around that possibility without actually coming out to state it. Why not? His message is sufficiently divergent from the mainstream Democratic party to allow that possibility. If he does it though I can't imagine it gaining any traction......but time will tell.
Dean has repeatedly said that he will fully support the eventual nominee and not form a third party. The two questions are will the legion of Deaniacs split and would the nominee want Dean's support?
Now we need to vote for the person that will make GWB look as foolish as possible
Well, that will be hard.
All the democrats are even bigger fools.
Ding!
Originally posted by msantti
Well, that will be hard.
All the democrats are even bigger fools.
You are correct sir. Go George!
I still don't see evidence that Kerry or Edwards can beat G.W.
Originally posted by drewprops
His message is sufficiently divergent from the mainstream Democratic party to allow that possibility.
You're joking? Dean has always been the triangulating moderate with enough balls to take on both George W. Bush and paralyzed Democrats. His appeal was almost entirely in the ability of his rhetoric to enliven the base and in success of Joe Trippi's revolutionary internet fundraising. Other than that, there's nothing really that much to differentiate between the eventual Democratic nominee and Dean. Furthermore, the Democrats- especially John Kerry and John Edwards with their contrasting styles- are not afraid anymore of standing up to Bush and what happened over the last four years. In other words, they've co-opted his message! So I don't think running would be a very logical thing to do. Dean served a worthwhile purpose in helping the Democrats try to win this next election. I don't see him burning his bridges and helping GWB win another four more years.
Originally posted by DMBand0026
You are correct sir. Go George!
I still don't see evidence that Kerry or Edwards can beat G.W.
I swear to god, I'll never understand how people can be so stupid.
Originally posted by drewprops
Do what John, do what John? Come again, do what?
I think that Governor Dean is STILL shaking his head, trying to figure out what the heck happened to him....guess he'll be doing it a little longer. Is there the possibility that he will in fact start his own breakaway political party? It seems as if the pundits are talking all around that possibility without actually coming out to state it. Why not? His message is sufficiently divergent from the mainstream Democratic party to allow that possibility. If he does it though I can't imagine it gaining any traction......but time will tell.
His message is part and parcle of the mainstream democratic party. His tenure as governer was clearly as a moderate to conservative.
The picture of Dean as a fire breathing radical was an invention of the media.
Originally posted by torifile
I swear to god, I'll never understand how people can be so stupid.
Nor can other understand how some don't recognize the existence of very strong Bush support across the country as well.
Originally posted by rageous
Nor can other understand how some don't recognize the existence of very strong Bush support across the country as well.
That's easily verifiable. I don't think anyone doubts that Bush has very strong support from his base- or a greater percentage of strong support than Kerry and Edwards could muster. But then again, Bush has pissed off the rest of the country lately and you need more than strong supporters to win an election. Just ask Dean today.
Originally posted by rageous
Shawn, very true. I don't dispute that in the least. I just get annoyed when people refuse to recognize the fact that even though they personally dislike Bush, he's still a very strong candidate. It will be a difficult battle to unseat him.
I never said the support was untrue. I was actually commenting on the perplexing fact that anyone likes him at all. The country is full of stupid people. That doesn't make them any easier to understand.
How ignorantly simplistic.
Originally posted by rageous
Ah, that makes sense. If you support Bush, you're stupid.
How ignorantly simplistic.
Did I say that?
<checks posts>
Nope.
Originally posted by rageous
Ah, that makes sense. If you support Bush, you're stupid.
I'd never say such a silly thing. Stupidity doesn't cover all of the bases. One has to allow for ignorance, greed, and severe mental illness as well.