It isn't that bad....
XP, that is. I know this is a Mac forum, and there is a rivalry between the two, so anyone (even if they have never used a PC in their life) will bash XP any chance they are given. I've been using XP for almost 3 years now, and I haven't had nearly as many problems as everyone says PC people do. I have reinstalled XP ONCE, because SP1 wasn't compatible with something I had on the computer, and started giving me blue screens. Once we uninstalled it, it was fine.
The only other problem I've had was the System Restore tab missing. I don't know what caused it, but it was resolved by finding an .ini file, right-clicking it, choosing install, inserting the Windows CD, finding a needed file, and restarting the computer (No reinstallition needed, just a file from the disk).
The other thing I hear Mac people constantly talk about is the "Constant Crashing". I have a Dell Dimension 8200, with a P4 2.52 GHZ processor, and 1 GB of RAM. It runs fine. The only thing that I can do (to my knowledge) to MAKE it freeze is having Imageready sit there and try to open a large .MOV file while I'm sitting there trying to do something else. That is the ONLY time I can make it freeze. Sure, it may lag sometimes, but not nearly as much as people say it does, and that's typically resolved by Control+Alt+Delete, and about 30 seconds. That's it. (And to those who are dying to make some comment about having to do CAD: About one out of every 10 uses needs to be C+A+D'd)
Windows 98? That's another story. It's slow as crap. Don't have the system specs, but it really sucks, but XP is 100x better than that.
All in all, I just want to say that Windows (XP) isn't half as bad as Mac users say it is. Don't get me wrong, I DO want a PB really bad, but I just couldn't handle all the Microsoft bashing.
[NO FLAMING]
The only other problem I've had was the System Restore tab missing. I don't know what caused it, but it was resolved by finding an .ini file, right-clicking it, choosing install, inserting the Windows CD, finding a needed file, and restarting the computer (No reinstallition needed, just a file from the disk).
The other thing I hear Mac people constantly talk about is the "Constant Crashing". I have a Dell Dimension 8200, with a P4 2.52 GHZ processor, and 1 GB of RAM. It runs fine. The only thing that I can do (to my knowledge) to MAKE it freeze is having Imageready sit there and try to open a large .MOV file while I'm sitting there trying to do something else. That is the ONLY time I can make it freeze. Sure, it may lag sometimes, but not nearly as much as people say it does, and that's typically resolved by Control+Alt+Delete, and about 30 seconds. That's it. (And to those who are dying to make some comment about having to do CAD: About one out of every 10 uses needs to be C+A+D'd)
Windows 98? That's another story. It's slow as crap. Don't have the system specs, but it really sucks, but XP is 100x better than that.
All in all, I just want to say that Windows (XP) isn't half as bad as Mac users say it is. Don't get me wrong, I DO want a PB really bad, but I just couldn't handle all the Microsoft bashing.
[NO FLAMING]
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I'm personally quite happy with both of them, each has their own strengths to be sure, but many of the "problems" I see people harping on about (on either side) I rarely even give a second thought. Most issues are easily dealt if you know how...
My XP system at home is like a rock, it's even more stable that my os:X machine at work. But then again I'm still more familiar with XP and OS 9 than OS:X and many of those issues stem from programs like Quark in X and incompatable devices. Stuff that will be sorted out in time...
At first I admit that I absolutely LOATHED OS:X, it changed everything and dumped in a whole lot of distracting eye-candy that you couldn't get rid of. It just wasn't a "Mac" to me anymore. I loved the simplicity and unobtrusiveness of 9 but after a few months X became more and more transparent and I knew it would be only a matter of time before there would be some clever 3rd party UI fixer-upper and all would be happy again. I'm sure if I give it another 6 months I probably won't even care about that...
Just my 2 bits worth of rambling... 8)
C.
I hate to use XP. I actually hate XP more than 2k, ME or 98. Does it crash as much? No but does it matter whether I'm frustrated because of blue screens or because that damn dog won't go away?
and this?
The only other problem I've had was the System Restore tab missing. I don't know what caused it, but it was resolved by finding an .ini file, right-clicking it, choosing install, inserting the Windows CD, finding a needed file, and restarting the computer (No reinstallition needed, just a file from the disk).
Are you joking or are you seriously trying to tell us this is what you consider to be an example of XP not being that bad? How's that for intuitive.
XP anywhere near my critical files? No thanks.
Originally posted by ast3r3x
It isn't very crash prone...but it is virus, worm, and spyware prone.
Windows has spyware because everybody uses it.
There are windows virii and worms because users run any program any stranger gives them. Outlook has protected its address book and blocked code from running for years.
Originally posted by xmoger:
I have to say they're pretty even. The differences are often personal preference.
Indeed.
In a way I wish I could combine the best of both into one. MacOS 9 keyboard shortcuts, WinXP taskbar, etc... Torifile's rant simply supports my earlier point about how easy it is to get fustrated when you only have a passing familiarity with an OS.
Cheers,
C.
Originally posted by ast3r3x
I agree with you. It is the best windows to date. It isn't very crash prone...but it is virus, worm, and spyware prone. I know several people who never have a problem on there PC's, but for everyone of them I know 10 people who have problems with their PC. It's not a question of if there is a PC box running well without problem, it's what is the ratio of good to bad.
best WINDOWS to date, that sure says a lot
Originally posted by Concord
Indeed.
In a way I wish I could combine the best of both into one. MacOS 9 keyboard shortcuts, WinXP taskbar, etc... Torifile's rant simply supports my earlier point about how easy it is to get fustrated when you only have a passing familiarity with an OS.
Cheers,
C.
You don't know me or my computer experience. Please refrain from making snap judgments.
Originally posted by Concord
Indeed.
In a way I wish I could combine the best of both into one. MacOS 9 keyboard shortcuts, WinXP taskbar, etc... Torifile's rant simply supports my earlier point about how easy it is to get fustrated when you only have a passing familiarity with an OS.
Cheers,
C.
Hmm, you should not have to have any familiarity with an OS for it to work correctly for you. Imagine a beginning user trying to recover a file from a CD, do all the right click mumbo jumbo and then have everything restored to normal...NO...NO...NO!!!
That is total BS. Windows BS.
Originally posted by xmoger
Windows has spyware because everybody uses it.
How many time is this falsehood going to be propounded? Windows has spyware because it's insecure, not because it's popular. I'd go into it, but people have done it before (just recently).
There are windows virii and worms because users run any program any stranger gives them. Outlook has protected its address book and blocked code from running for years.
There are Windows viruses and worms because Windows is insecure. XP is no different from other Windows in that regard.
You don't know me or my computer experience. Please refrain from making snap judgments.
I don't mean to insult you Torifile, it's just that I found your knee-jerk post amusing and your compaints (for the most part) easily rectified if you knew how. If you had spent a few minutes on the internet actually trying to address your concerns it would have saved you a lot of frustration I think...
Cheers,
C.
Originally posted by Concord
I don't mean to insult you Torifile, it's just that I found your knee-jerk post amusing and your compaints (for the most part) easily rectified if you knew how. If you had spent a few minutes on the internet actually trying to address your concerns it would have saved you a lot of frustration I think...
Cheers,
C.
Buying a Mac will save everyone the frustration.
The thing's a dog. It's a bigger memory hog than OS X, it crashes more than OS X (I've gotten a few freezes in OS X that I imagine I could kill if I logged on via telnet), it's ugly as sin. Both the home user and the 'pro' royally suck.
OS X isn't perfect, but it's a whole lot better than XP.
Hmm, you should not have to have any familiarity with an OS for it to work correctly for you. Imagine a beginning user trying to recover a file from a CD, do all the right click mumbo jumbo and then have everything restored to normal...NO...NO...NO!!!
There is no OS that doesn't require some sort of learning curve, especially so if you are already "set in your ways" with another OS.
A junior on OS:X might ask - why are there 3 places to put fonts? Why are there stoplights on all my windows? How do I eject a CD again? What can't I find my app's preferences in my OS's library? Why are these windows so slow? Why is this program so slow? How do I turn off all the eye-candy? Why am I having so many networking problems across X and classic? Font problems across X and Classic? Printing problems across X and Classic?
If you know how to deal with these issues, they're going to be transparent to you, but if not...
All I'm saying is that no OS is perfect and all-intuitive, but they are all getting better, no question.
Cheers,
C.
Originally posted by Concord
I don't mean to insult you Torifile, it's just that I found your knee-jerk post amusing and your compaints (for the most part) easily rectified if you knew how. If you had spent a few minutes on the internet actually trying to address your concerns it would have saved you a lot of frustration I think...
Cheers,
C.
Knee jerk? Again with the assuming you know something about me.... And it's the "for the most part" thing I'm complaining about.
XP is really crappy. I can't believe some people use this as a server OS. I've used windows since 3.1, and XP really isn't good. It's resolved some of the problems of previous versions of windows, but it's not stable at all. When I hear people say it's 'rock solid' I can only imagine they're using it for surfing and email, but not much more.
Hey, now I love my Mac as much as the next guy but do keep in mind that ninety-whatever percent of the computing world are getting their work done on PCs. You many not like it, but there it is. I use my own PC for Photoshop, Quark and Dreamweaver... and maybe a few games too...
Cheers,
C.
I don't feel the PC is inferior due to crashing. The PC I used at work hardly ever crashed. I could do just about everything I do on that PC that I do on my Mac, just about, not all. Of course it didn't look as good on the PC as it does on the Mac. Even at this stage in the game you still see the pixels on the PC. Even with XP! The main problem with the PC is it's interface. It's an inferior unthought out interface, it stinks. One who as known no other OS might see nothing wrong with it. Believe me, there's lots wrong with that user interface. There are much better ways to get it done. The Mac is way more fun to work with and much, much, much, more efficient. One other point that makes the PC inferior is the need to constantly be on the look out for viruses. Oh, and having to hack it so as to prevent pop-ups. Oh... and all that spyware. I could go on but it would turn into a "bashing" session. I have no desire to add fire to a useless debate. Some get it, some don't, and some just don't want to look.
I might start comparing Windows and OS-X when Windows allows me to drag and drop internet explorer into the trash can to remove it permanently from the system. Until that happens, you can read http://www.xvsxp.com .