actually, i heard about some speaker technology that puts the speaker on the screen....not sure how it works, but it's somewhere out there....anyone back me up?
But seriously, there has to be a speaker somewhere, even if it's only for alerting the owner when the phone is ringing. Unless you expect people to either be watching the screen or have the headphones on 24/7 as not to miss phone calls.
And yeah Max, I really do remember hearing about this technology, and I'm quite sure it would be a wonderful thing for Apple to do.. just like the iPod scroll wheels, this could be a pretty big innovation.
Also, there would have to be some kind of a stylus... for Ink, you know.
I think the iFrame idea is pretty neat only if it does more than just sync with iPhoto and display pictures.
I take a lot of digital photos, and it would be really neat to have a device I can download pictures on (thousands, not just hundreds). If this device also allowed for iPhoto like editing and had a video/analog out to display the images/slideshow on a TV or an overhead. Also, for those professionals out there, maybe it could show a PDF slideshow presentation. Of course, it would need a remote.
I have a laptop, but I hardly ever take it out of the house. I only take it on my infrequent trips, so that I have a place to store my digital images when I fill my 128MB CF card. If there was a device that had a decent size LCD screen, 10-20GB of storage, remote, a/v out that could play MP3's and be used with my digital camera/camcorder, I would buy it. And then it could come with a little stand, and double as a little mini digital picture frame.
Basically take the 20GB iPod increase the size slightly so it could display a nice size image (3x5?) and add a lot of neat feature that would make it useful for a digital image device as well as a MP3 player (sure, throw in contacts and calendar as well, why not... that's just software). And don't forget those the most important feature, iTunes could then have colored effects going while playing tunes.
Yeah, understood. Possibly they would need to keep the size down to nearly iPod size. But if they could enlarge the screen on the iPod a bit and put a sharp color LCD, then you could possibly have the same functions I mentioned earlier on an color iPod type device. I'm not talking about a new product as much as an enhanced iPod that can store and show color images. They would use the same a/v jack that is in the iBooks (headphone jack with video out too).
maybe each on every side?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, no, no! Skip the speaker and integrate a vibrating ringer. I am sick and tired of acoustic pollution with people's silly ring tones. The only issue would be if the device is too large to fit in your pocket, the only place where a vibrating ringer is of any use.
Very cool... BIG screen, video capture, bluetooth, MMS, polyphonic tones... the works biatch.
Bigger, but more functional than the T68i (which is still a very very cool phone)
[quote]
* Availability: Early 2003
* Weight: 130 g (with standard battery)
* Dimensions: 130 x 57 x 26 mm, 139 cc
* Talktime: Up to 2.5 - 4 h
* Standby time: Up to 150 - 200 h
* Key features: Video capture (Camcorder) and playback, still imaging, multimedia messaging, JavaTM MIDP 1.0, Bluetooth, large color display, tri-band world phone, polyphonic ringing tones.
* Operating frequency: EGSM 900/1800 and 1900 networks world wide
Make a statement with the new Nokia 3650 imaging phone. The 4096-color screen, funky design, and icon-based navigation have all been designed for easy video (Camcorder) and picture shooting and sending. You can capture video clips with Camcorder and play them with RealOne Player. Send, receive, and forward multimedia messages, download JavaTM and Symbian applications, and talk on five continents.
<hr></blockquote>
awww crap... RealMedia video files thats totaly CRAP. Grrrr. Why not MP4 while they're at it dammit. (UPDATE: It saves as Video capture: 3GPP MP4 formats. can QuickTime read that?)
all the other apple codenames make lots of sense (wolf, presley, david's stone, glove), but iceland? why? what's unique about iceland? that fits with this strategy?
all the other apple codenames make lots of sense (wolf, presley, david's stone, glove), but iceland? why? what's unique about iceland? that fits with this strategy?
any ideas? </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yea, i was thinking that too. I found some flowers that come from pods that turns into a type of flower called Iceland. I posted it on the first page of this thread with a website like. Cheers.
Yeah, but it's just a GSM phone. Meaning you wouldn't be able to do all of the cool shit that you can do with GPRS phones. I wouldn't buy one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
re-read the specs dude... GPRS is mentioned about a half dozen times. GSM is for the phone call itself AFAIK, GPRS is for all the multimedia, packet stuff (data transfer). I dont think (i really dont know/not sure) if GPRS is actually used for the conversation when you call. IE if you have a GPRS network, you still need GSM to make a call.
Or am I totally off? I would think that GPRS takes care of everything. Boh
I believe GPRS is for pushing data/email to the phone. This would mean that emails are received without dialing in. You don't have to check to see if you get email, you just get it. No calls, no minutes used. The Treo's, from Handspring, are supposed to be upgradeable to this, once it's available (When?).
Pretty sure I read this on the specs for the Treo. Do the Blackberry's already have this? I'm not sure how they work.
Comments
I LOVE it!!!
Actually, I meant Popsicle Doll Airbag - now look out for the Stever!!!
As for the iThingie - do you drag-n-drop with the headphones?
engpjp
<strong>(...) As for the iThingie - do you drag-n-drop with the headphones?</strong><hr></blockquote>
you can try.
but i would use the touchscreen.
But seriously, there has to be a speaker somewhere, even if it's only for alerting the owner when the phone is ringing. Unless you expect people to either be watching the screen or have the headphones on 24/7 as not to miss phone calls.
And yeah Max, I really do remember hearing about this technology, and I'm quite sure it would be a wonderful thing for Apple to do.. just like the iPod scroll wheels, this could be a pretty big innovation.
Also, there would have to be some kind of a stylus... for Ink, you know.
I think an iTablet would be too big.
I think the iFrame idea is pretty neat only if it does more than just sync with iPhoto and display pictures.
I take a lot of digital photos, and it would be really neat to have a device I can download pictures on (thousands, not just hundreds). If this device also allowed for iPhoto like editing and had a video/analog out to display the images/slideshow on a TV or an overhead. Also, for those professionals out there, maybe it could show a PDF slideshow presentation. Of course, it would need a remote.
I have a laptop, but I hardly ever take it out of the house. I only take it on my infrequent trips, so that I have a place to store my digital images when I fill my 128MB CF card. If there was a device that had a decent size LCD screen, 10-20GB of storage, remote, a/v out that could play MP3's and be used with my digital camera/camcorder, I would buy it. And then it could come with a little stand, and double as a little mini digital picture frame.
Basically take the 20GB iPod increase the size slightly so it could display a nice size image (3x5?) and add a lot of neat feature that would make it useful for a digital image device as well as a MP3 player (sure, throw in contacts and calendar as well, why not... that's just software). And don't forget those the most important feature, iTunes could then have colored effects going while playing tunes.
[ 09-03-2002: Message edited by: IQ78 ]</p>
there has to be a small speaker.
maybe each on every side?
the iframe idea like IQ78 posted: i don't think this would sell very good.
if i had to access a couple of thousand pix on the road - i would go for an ibook or powerbook.
i believe that most people either want a fully grown up portable or a small device to communicate and organize.
i'm talkin about the pda-phone-thingie here.
the compainion, navigator, assistant whatever name apple would come up with (if they do).
i'm no big "mockup/rumors-maker".
i was just bored hanging around yesterday and i am still hoping for a device like this.
(matsu is gonna kill me if he reads his
[ 09-03-2002: Message edited by: peve ]</p>
<strong>yeah bradb
the iframe idea like IQ78 posted: i don't think this would sell very good.
if i had to access a couple of thousand pix on
[ 09-03-2002: Message edited by: peve ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, understood. Possibly they would need to keep the size down to nearly iPod size. But if they could enlarge the screen on the iPod a bit and put a sharp color LCD, then you could possibly have the same functions I mentioned earlier on an color iPod type device. I'm not talking about a new product as much as an enhanced iPod that can store and show color images. They would use the same a/v jack that is in the iBooks (headphone jack with video out too).
Here a link to an article about a flat speaker for mobile phones being developed by Matsushita. They are based on the technology patented by NXT.
<a href="http://ne.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/2001/11/1105mci_d-ce.html"; target="_blank">flat speaker</a>
Although it is not cleat if the speaker is behind the screen or not but I guess it is possible.
[quote]Originally posted by peve:
<strong>yeah bradb, you're right.
there has to be a small speaker.
maybe each on every side?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, no, no! Skip the speaker and integrate a vibrating ringer. I am sick and tired of acoustic pollution with people's silly ring tones. The only issue would be if the device is too large to fit in your pocket, the only place where a vibrating ringer is of any use.
Escher
Very cool... BIG screen, video capture, bluetooth, MMS, polyphonic tones... the works biatch.
Bigger, but more functional than the T68i (which is still a very very cool phone)
[quote]
* Availability: Early 2003
* Weight: 130 g (with standard battery)
* Dimensions: 130 x 57 x 26 mm, 139 cc
* Talktime: Up to 2.5 - 4 h
* Standby time: Up to 150 - 200 h
* Key features: Video capture (Camcorder) and playback, still imaging, multimedia messaging, JavaTM MIDP 1.0, Bluetooth, large color display, tri-band world phone, polyphonic ringing tones.
* Operating frequency: EGSM 900/1800 and 1900 networks world wide
Make a statement with the new Nokia 3650 imaging phone. The 4096-color screen, funky design, and icon-based navigation have all been designed for easy video (Camcorder) and picture shooting and sending. You can capture video clips with Camcorder and play them with RealOne Player. Send, receive, and forward multimedia messages, download JavaTM and Symbian applications, and talk on five continents.
<hr></blockquote>
awww crap... RealMedia video files
more stuff
[quote]
Display and User Interface
* High-resolution, full-color display (4096 colors)
* 176x208 pixels
* 5-way scroll key
* Symbian operating system
* Midi and WAV ringing tones
* Ringing tone composer
* Predictive text input
Integrated Digital Camera
* Image capture at 640x480 resolution
* Phone display used as a viewfinder
* Photo album
* Video capture: 3GPP MP4 formats
* Video playback: Real One Player. Formats: 3GPP MP4, Real Audio and Real Video
Memory
* 4 MB internal dynamic memory for phone numbers, messages, photos
* External memory on 3V MMC memory card
Wireless Connectivity
* Infrared
* Bluetooth
* Connect phone wirelessly to compatible phone or phone to compatible PC
* Send/receive pictures, video clips, graphics, play games
JavaTM Technology
* Support for Java MIDP 1.0
* Download new JavaTM games and applications
Messaging
* Combine picture, video, text, and voice clip & send by MMS or email to compatible phone or PC
* Email over GSM data, HSCSD and GPRS
* Email protocols: SMTP, POP3, IMAP4
* Concatenated SMS messages, picture messaging
Data Transfer
* Up to 43.2 kilobits per second in High Speed Circuit Switched Data networks
* Up to 40.2 kilobits per second in GPRS networks
Voice Features
* Voice dialing
* Voice recorder
* Integrated handsfree speaker
Browsing
* Nokia WAP2.0/XHTML browser over GSM data, HSCSD and GPRS
Games
* Java and Symbian games
* Multi-player games over infrared and Bluetooth between compatible phones
Tri-band Operation
* GSM 900/1800/1900 networks
* Automatic switching between bands
Languages
* Most major European, Asian and American languages
Accessories
* Xpress-on covers: painted & graphical
* Travel Charger ACP-12 (in box)
* Travel Charger (ACP-8)
* Mobile Charger (LCH-12)
* Plug-in HF Car Kit (PPH-1)
* BT Car Kit (CARK112)
* Microphone (HFM-8)
* Mobile holder (MBC-16)
* HDC-10, HDB-5, HDC-5, HDD-1 and HDE-2 headsets
* Mobile Inductive Loopset (LPS-3)
* Battery Cell (BL-5C)
* Carrying cases
* Nokia Music Player (HDR-1)
* Memory Card (DTS-64)
<hr></blockquote>
[ 09-06-2002: Message edited by: ZO ]</p>
why call it "iceland"?
all the other apple codenames make lots of sense (wolf, presley, david's stone, glove), but iceland? why? what's unique about iceland? that fits with this strategy?
any ideas? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>here's my big question:
why call it "iceland"?
all the other apple codenames make lots of sense (wolf, presley, david's stone, glove), but iceland? why? what's unique about iceland? that fits with this strategy?
any ideas?
Yea, i was thinking that too. I found some flowers that come from pods that turns into a type of flower called Iceland. I posted it on the first page of this thread with a website like. Cheers.
<strong><a href="http://www.nokia.com/phones/3650/"; target="_blank">http://www.nokia.com/phones/3650/</a>;
Very cool... BIG screen, video capture, bluetooth, MMS, polyphonic tones... the works biatch.
Bigger, but more functional than the T68i (which is still a very very cool phone)</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, but it's just a GSM phone. Meaning you wouldn't be able to do all of the cool shit that you can do with GPRS phones. I wouldn't buy one.
I like it.
i-Thingie.
Nice name.
Everything from a phone to a quicktime to an internet viewer. Kool.
i-Photo, i-sync, i-Cal and i-phone....address book. But in camera too? Who knows.
Touch screen.
Sexy.
I'd like to see Apple do something like that.
Lemon Bon Bon
<strong>
Yeah, but it's just a GSM phone. Meaning you wouldn't be able to do all of the cool shit that you can do with GPRS phones. I wouldn't buy one.</strong><hr></blockquote>
re-read the specs dude... GPRS is mentioned about a half dozen times. GSM is for the phone call itself AFAIK, GPRS is for all the multimedia, packet stuff (data transfer). I dont think (i really dont know/not sure) if GPRS is actually used for the conversation when you call. IE if you have a GPRS network, you still need GSM to make a call.
Or am I totally off? I would think that GPRS takes care of everything. Boh
Just about everyone is reporting that there will be no new hardware at Paris or Seybold.
Perhaps Apple should use the code name "Godot" for their projects from now on.
Hope springs eternal...
Mandricard
AppleOutsider
Pretty sure I read this on the specs for the Treo. Do the Blackberry's already have this? I'm not sure how they work.