Gauntanamo Redux
OK, quick update.
3 of the British people in Gitmo had been accused being in a video of Bin Laden but denied it (one was working in the Tipton branch of Currys you see). "You can check our stories very easily," they said. Not the answer the Marines wanted to hear. "You could have had someone working for you and falsified the records."
So they got beaten up until they said things the US wanted to hear.
They all eventually decided that it was probably better to say, "Yes, that was me." At which point they were on their way to death row maybe; they spent 3 months in solitary.
Luckily, MI5 brought along the evidence to show the US that they'd been lying. Lying about being in the video that is, telling the truth before they'd been beaten up. They'd been in the UK.
What about the others, who are going to be killed by the US, who are also totally innocent but don't have MI5 to prove their confessions are bullshit?
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...168937,00.html
"You'd look at these guys in their shorts and polo shirts and think: 'This guy's an interrogator? He's only 20 years old,' says Rasul. 'About two months ago one guy asked me: "If I wanted to get hold of surface-to-air missiles in Tipton, where would I go?" I started arguing with him. Did he really think I lived in some sort of war zone. I was scared in the interrogations but towards the end the questions just seemed stupid.'"
3 of the British people in Gitmo had been accused being in a video of Bin Laden but denied it (one was working in the Tipton branch of Currys you see). "You can check our stories very easily," they said. Not the answer the Marines wanted to hear. "You could have had someone working for you and falsified the records."
So they got beaten up until they said things the US wanted to hear.
They all eventually decided that it was probably better to say, "Yes, that was me." At which point they were on their way to death row maybe; they spent 3 months in solitary.
Luckily, MI5 brought along the evidence to show the US that they'd been lying. Lying about being in the video that is, telling the truth before they'd been beaten up. They'd been in the UK.
What about the others, who are going to be killed by the US, who are also totally innocent but don't have MI5 to prove their confessions are bullshit?
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...168937,00.html
"You'd look at these guys in their shorts and polo shirts and think: 'This guy's an interrogator? He's only 20 years old,' says Rasul. 'About two months ago one guy asked me: "If I wanted to get hold of surface-to-air missiles in Tipton, where would I go?" I started arguing with him. Did he really think I lived in some sort of war zone. I was scared in the interrogations but towards the end the questions just seemed stupid.'"
Comments
Originally posted by Scott
Pure propaganda from the Guardian.
Let's put money on it. There are plenty of escrow betting services; I might as well make some money off your blinkers.
Here's the deal: ?100 says this is confirmed within 3 months. Agree and we can fill in the details.
Originally posted by Harald
Here's the deal: ?100 says this is confirmed within 3 months. Agree and we can fill in the details.
That'll be roughly $130 USD, just so you know.
Money / mouth proximity inquiry for Mr. Scott!
Originally posted by Harald
Hello?
Money / mouth proximity inquiry for Mr. Scott!
Cmon, you cant expect anything fair and balanced from Scott....the one who perpetually endorses bad behavior on the part of the US govt, and then has the gall to claim that anyone who disagrees with him is "anti-American"...when the opposite is more the case.
Originally posted by sammi jo
Cmon, you cant expect anything fair and balanced from Scott....the one who perpetually endorses bad behavior on the part of the US govt, and then has the gall to claim that anyone who disagrees with him is "anti-American"...when the opposite is more the case.
Go spread some more hate filled lies about the US. How 'bout the "US gave $40 million to the taliban" one. Or maybe about how there's more proof to implicate Bush in 9-11 than bin Laden.
Originally posted by Scott
Go spread some more hate filled lies about the US. How 'bout the "US gave $40 million to the taliban" one. Or maybe about how there's more proof to implicate Bush in 9-11 than bin Laden.
How about you back up your claims with (roughly) $130 USD?
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"Truth? You couldn't handle the truth!"
All I got...and sincere apologies to Jack Nicholson...
Well, can't seem to post images...fukkit. What a waste of effort. You win scott, kiss my ass...
I DO claim that you don't believe in your position over this issues.
Money.
Mouth.
?100.
The people were kept without trial for two years. They had no chance to have their innocence or their guilt tested independently. How can anyone possibly be surprised that mistakes were made? Apparently MI5 had to show up with evidence that one of the guys was enrolled at University before the Americans decided that the 'confession' he made could not be true. Another of the men released has apparently had an arm amputated.
The Americans ****ed up. I hope that these men sue the American government for millions and millions of dollars; I hope they start suing them now and that the case begins right in the middle of the Presidential elections.
Stand up for your nation. Prove a point, proud American. Say 'yes' to Harald's bet. Don't run away from this fight. That's practically French.