Will OSX ever be as fast as 9.x?
Just wondering if all the tweaks going into each incarnation of OSX will ever get to the point where it'll be just as fast as 9.x.
Of course I realize the obvious graphic overhead and additional features that Jag/Panther carry. But it would be great if over the next few updates, it could be as snappy? as 9.
Of course I realize the obvious graphic overhead and additional features that Jag/Panther carry. But it would be great if over the next few updates, it could be as snappy? as 9.
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It's faster in many regards for me.
OS X does way more than OS 9 ever did...the list of things OS X does that OS 9 doesn't is so long, I wouldn't even know where to begin. Quartz is already many times more complex than QuickDraw ever was.
While OS X's GUI seemed extremely slow in the 10.0 and 10.1 days, people never really saw the other side of the coin: you could run many programs pretty much simultaneously. OS X's multitasking is infinitely superior to OS 9's multitasking. So while you could do one thing really fast in OS 9, you couldn't do more than that. In OS X you can do many things but not as fast as if you were doing only one thing.
I think that make X faster right there!
Originally posted by satchmo
Just wondering if all the tweaks going into each incarnation of OSX will ever get to the point where it'll be just as fast as 9.x.
On 9x generation hardware, no I don't think so. But if your able to upgrade they are similar in speed.
I have no problems with the speed of OS X compared with OS 9 on my upgraded Power Mac: 1.33 GHz (from 533x2). I've added RAM and a Radeon 9800 but my stock Radeon 32MB was Quartz Extreme ready to begin with. Seems the lack of on-die cache caused OS X to bog down more then anything else.
The speed has steadily increased though. My stock 450 Cube has become more usable with each incarnation but it still can't compare with a newer G4 chip. Nor will it ever.
I think OS X already walks right past OS 9, I multitask quite a bit and OS X even allowing me to do that makes it faster than OS 9. The fact that its really good at multitasking makes it even faster.
If I had Panther on a G4 or G5 I'm sure that I'd be giggling loudly. M'tasking vs. M'threading aside, OS 9 still feels "faster" for me because of my current hardware setup.
Originally posted by Aquatic
Panther promised to make Dock menus instant. They aren't by a longshot. That's my pet peeve. My Utilities folder or a few other big ones take 6 or 7 seconds to open on a PBG4 12". That's probably half the time it took in Jag but still...
The first time you click it it will take a few to build.
But all subsequent clicks will not have that delay.
To make it truly come up instantly, hold the control key while click-holding.
The Dock has a built-in delay, a second I think. This prevents the menu from immediately showing, since you might only have wanted to move the icon. Control overrides the delay.
Still if you have a shitload of items it'll have a delay.
But if it's truly important you should design a trim set of aliases and subfolders to cut down on the crap being listed; at least for Applications and Utilities folders.
Having said all that any slight speed disadvantage in Panther is more than offset by Pather's multi tasking. When working in another program in OS 9 with iTune playing, the visualizer when on fullscreen would be so slow as to be unwatchable. And I love the force quit feature, it actually closes an application without crashing the system.
In fact, Panther makes my computer almost feel new; I was originally planning on moving up to a G5 when Gen 2 came out this spring or early summer. Now I'll wait to Gen 3 at year's end.
My 2-cents.
Originally posted by Aquatic
My Utilities folder or a few other big ones take 6 or 7 seconds to open on a PBG4 12". That's probably half the time it took in Jag but still...
Now wait a minute. Are you implying that under Jaguar, your Utilities folder opened from the Dock in 12-14 sec.? Since in my case ( 12", 10.2.8 ) it takes never more than 5 seconds. If it is already cached, it opens in 1 second at most.
Originally posted by satchmo
Just wondering if all the tweaks going into each incarnation of OSX will ever get to the point where it'll be just as fast as 9.x.
Of course I realize the obvious graphic overhead and additional features that Jag/Panther carry. But it would be great if over the next few updates, it could be as snappy? as 9.
Are you asking with the condition that 1 app is running or more than 1 app is running?