Something of note...you guys are all talking about the Powebook and have missed something. CompUSA has stopped listing the low end iBook on their website. When CompUSA discontinues an Apple product, it's because they know something.
JD: If a rep is feeding you that garbage about powerbooks, not only is he a complete moron, but for you to actually believe him saying "wouldn't an extra CPU be worth a couple weeks and a couple hundred to you?"
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I didn't say I believed it, only passing it on...
BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?
<strong>CompUSA has stopped listing the low end iBook on their website.</strong><hr></blockquote>Interesting, indeed. But maybe it's because the 600 MHz iBook doesn't sell well, esp. at Comp USA.
I really, really, really hope there are new PowerBook G4s soon. I beg. I plead. Just give me a damn new model to buy! For crying out loud, Apple. You're torturing me. Stop the misery. Ease the pa........okay I think you get my point.
BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).
We're gonna get a speed bumped PowerBook G4 before any new form factor, so chill fellas! Faster processors and maybe the DVD-RW this go-round.
Once again, my friend in Cupertino said the faster PowerBooks were an outside possibility for this past MWNY, and certainly Steve wanted it, but there was a shortage of the faster processors (haven't we all gotten sick of hearing that one?) and some other issues that pushed the timing way back. But once upon a time, the game plan was for faster PBs this past July. He also says there is another form factor in the works but only in the advanced planning stages, and no clear consensus on replacing the Ti Book or introducing another model. If a new PB is introduced along side the Ti then it might well be the end of the iBook, or even a new iBook altogether. Isn't it about time for a new iBook form factor? How long did we have the clam-shell design before the white iBooks came along?
not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but J&R is offering the PB 667 (M8591LL) for $100 off ($2399).
it's not advertised (i'm sure this is due to apple's strict reseller rules), but if you give them your email address, they'll send you a link to a page that offers it at the discount...
<strong>Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel...... (7 kg or something fully loaded...Ouch...!)</strong><hr></blockquote>
I just wish I'd known about these mac shoppes when I lived in England and Scotland. I could never find anybody. Of course, that was back before the PC came out. I;ve lived my mac life getween Japan and NC. Looking forward to the next trip to Great Britain! I hope I'll be toting a new Falcon PowerBook. Not a real code name, but it could be real...
<strong>The Edinburgh John Lewis has the thickest Vaio back to back in the display cabinet with the TiBook. Quite a difference.
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Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel......
<strong>This "new PowerBook" info is funny. You have campus reps or other "vendors" telling people NOT to buy something for another two weeks. Imagine if the Apple Stores didn't make any sales for 2 weeks!</strong><hr></blockquote>
While I do find most of this thread to be a joke my campus store told me to hold off for two weeks on my iBook, that they would be taking another $100 off the price and throwing in AppleCare for free! So I did.
1) The sales clerk is not making comission.
2) On campus, they're just computer geeks making minimum wage selling stuff they're interested in. They like to spout off on their 'insider' knowledge just like everyone else. Mostly it's just the rumor mill at work though.
Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).</strong><hr></blockquote>
And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. Maybe the supposed "dual labtops" have a xserve fan built in! That would keep them cool.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.
perhaps the powerbooks will use a smaller process and come from that plant belonging to a partner of Moto that they signed a deal with. Thus they could be lower-power chips.
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Strange : same config, now with the new 5400rpm 40 Gigs, and I rarely get the fan kicking in (10.1.2 improved things also, it seems), except when I plug an external display.
Where do you work ? Are you using your TiBook on you bed or what : are the air vents free or the TiBook rear is close to a wall/anyhting preventing a good cooling of the case.
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. Maybe the supposed "dual labtops" have a xserve fan built in! That would keep them cool.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.
[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: jante99 ]</strong><hr></blockquote> Would the "dual labtops" you mentioned be characterized as "BenchTop Computing"?
[quote]Once again, my friend in Cupertino said the faster PowerBooks were an outside possibility for this past MWNY, and certainly Steve wanted it, but there was a shortage of the faster processors <hr></blockquote>
er...
i have a really hard time swallowing the fact that Moto is having problems kicking out 933Mhz and 1Ghz 7455's....
<strong>Why not? Our local Mac-buying maniac "murbot" does.
BTW, I think all you guys expecting dual G4s are nuts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
3 weeks? Been there, done that.
I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.
I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids.
PowerBook update this month, iBook update at MWSF - that's my 2 cents.
I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.
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So will I, which annoys me because I should have waited!
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I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids. </strong><hr></blockquote>
The only possibility which fits both scenarios would be a powerbook with an MPEG encoder built-in. That would be useful for DVD burning.
What I think we'll get is a 1Ghz Powerbook with ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 and maybe built-in Bluetooth.
I don't think that will make upgrade unless it has the rumoured Superdrives too.
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*CONFIRMED* NO DUAL PROCESSOR POWERBOOKS
JD: If a rep is feeding you that garbage about powerbooks, not only is he a complete moron, but for you to actually believe him saying "wouldn't an extra CPU be worth a couple weeks and a couple hundred to you?"
I didn't say I believed it, only passing it on...
BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?
<strong>CompUSA has stopped listing the low end iBook on their website.</strong><hr></blockquote>Interesting, indeed. But maybe it's because the 600 MHz iBook doesn't sell well, esp. at Comp USA.
I really, really, really hope there are new PowerBook G4s soon. I beg. I plead. Just give me a damn new model to buy! For crying out loud, Apple. You're torturing me. Stop the misery. Ease the pa........okay I think you get my point.
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I didn't say I believed it, only passing it on...
BTW, where's your offensive, "This thread is gay" pic? Don't you want to spread your redneck vibe through this thread?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).
Once again, my friend in Cupertino said the faster PowerBooks were an outside possibility for this past MWNY, and certainly Steve wanted it, but there was a shortage of the faster processors (haven't we all gotten sick of hearing that one?) and some other issues that pushed the timing way back. But once upon a time, the game plan was for faster PBs this past July. He also says there is another form factor in the works but only in the advanced planning stages, and no clear consensus on replacing the Ti Book or introducing another model. If a new PB is introduced along side the Ti then it might well be the end of the iBook, or even a new iBook altogether. Isn't it about time for a new iBook form factor? How long did we have the clam-shell design before the white iBooks came along?
it's not advertised (i'm sure this is due to apple's strict reseller rules), but if you give them your email address, they'll send you a link to a page that offers it at the discount...
<a href="http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=&Pr oduct_Id=3167241&source=D" target="_blank">Cheaper PB G4</a>
oh yeah, and the 800MHz for $3099 <a href="http://www.jandr.com/JRProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=&Pr oduct_Id=3167242&source=D" target="_blank">here...</a>
<strong>Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel......
I just wish I'd known about these mac shoppes when I lived in England and Scotland. I could never find anybody. Of course, that was back before the PC came out. I;ve lived my mac life getween Japan and NC. Looking forward to the next trip to Great Britain! I hope I'll be toting a new Falcon PowerBook. Not a real code name, but it could be real...
<strong>The Edinburgh John Lewis has the thickest Vaio back to back in the display cabinet with the TiBook. Quite a difference.
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Same with John Lewis in Oxford st.. The size difference between the big Viao with the 16" screen and Powerbook is quite amazing. The Sony is one obese slob compared to the Titianium supermodel......
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Let's get a picture of these two together!
[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: apple.otaku ]</p>
<strong>This "new PowerBook" info is funny. You have campus reps or other "vendors" telling people NOT to buy something for another two weeks. Imagine if the Apple Stores didn't make any sales for 2 weeks!</strong><hr></blockquote>
While I do find most of this thread to be a joke my campus store told me to hold off for two weeks on my iBook, that they would be taking another $100 off the price and throwing in AppleCare for free! So I did.
1) The sales clerk is not making comission.
2) On campus, they're just computer geeks making minimum wage selling stuff they're interested in. They like to spout off on their 'insider' knowledge just like everyone else. Mostly it's just the rumor mill at work though.
[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: serrano ]</p>
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Actually all the threads i've seen him post that pic, the thread was very deserving of it. And there are few rednecks in miami, if any. True there are alot of rednecks in Florida (it being the south and all) miami seems to be more of a mix of many many differnt nationalities and backgrounds (latino probably being the pradomenent).</strong><hr></blockquote>
It was not necessary <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=10&t=002750"; target="_blank">here</a>.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.
[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: jante99 ]</p>
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Strange : same config, now with the new 5400rpm 40 Gigs, and I rarely get the fan kicking in (10.1.2 improved things also, it seems), except when I plug an external display.
Where do you work ? Are you using your TiBook on you bed or what : are the air vents free or the TiBook rear is close to a wall/anyhting preventing a good cooling of the case.
I can't sell it and upgrade in 3 weeks... can I?
<strong>I can't sell it and upgrade in 3 weeks... can I?</strong><hr></blockquote>Why not? Our local Mac-buying maniac "murbot" does.
BTW, I think all you guys expecting dual G4s are nuts.
<strong>And look how much heat those revision b 677 mzh powerbooks produced. The fan is on almost constantly and I have a 550 mzh model. Maybe the supposed "dual labtops" have a xserve fan built in! That would keep them cool.
And maybe instead of harddrives in the front like the xserve they could have four batteries.
[ 10-06-2002: Message edited by: jante99 ]</strong><hr></blockquote> Would the "dual labtops" you mentioned be characterized as "BenchTop Computing"?
er...
i have a really hard time swallowing the fact that Moto is having problems kicking out 933Mhz and 1Ghz 7455's....
<strong>Why not? Our local Mac-buying maniac "murbot" does.
BTW, I think all you guys expecting dual G4s are nuts.</strong><hr></blockquote>
3 weeks? Been there, done that.
I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.
I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids.
PowerBook update this month, iBook update at MWSF - that's my 2 cents.
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3 weeks? Been there, done that.
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My girlfriend will go nuts!
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I am going to be VERY surprised if we don't get a PowerBook update this month. I'll be shocked.
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So will I, which annoys me because I should have waited!
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I also think the dual processor thing is crazy. No wonder there is utter disappointment in here after Macworld Expos... you go in with expectations like that and you guarantee yourself to be let down.
Of course I'd love to be proven wrong, and have a dual GHz PowerBook with advanced cooling technology so the fan doesn't come on any more often than it does now... but those are called dreams, kids.
The only possibility which fits both scenarios would be a powerbook with an MPEG encoder built-in. That would be useful for DVD burning.
What I think we'll get is a 1Ghz Powerbook with ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 and maybe built-in Bluetooth.
I don't think that will make upgrade unless it has the rumoured Superdrives too.