Something I've always wondered... of those files counted for P2P, how many are *SUCCESSFUL* downloads? One where a) the entire file was downloaded, b) the user was sufficiently happy with it not to go searching for a better rip or other variation of the performance?
I know that the actual number of files kept can be much smaller than those attempted... so which metric is used, and how are they determining it?
Nope. That figure is for Kazaa/Fasttrack (Poisoned) only. Silly me for thinking you might actually check the figure.
Barto
Silly indeed. There's been no evidence of them checking the facts so far. Why start now? (Yes stupider... there are less iTMS downloads than all the P2P apps put together. And no, that's not my opinion. That's a fact.)
Is this a good time to point out the irony of this debate carrying on while in the very same thread iTMS customers are busily discussing stripping the DRM off their iTMS files. Not entirely satisfied customers it would seem.
Kickaha (a) and (b), to an extent, represent different issues (with the proviso that the numbers depend on who's doing the counting and how they're counting them). (b) is the more interesting one. It's one example of where the sampling debate comes in to play. As far as the labels are concerned, we should be paying for every piece of music whether it's the one we wanted/liked/whatever or not.
Nope. That figure is for Kazaa/Fasttrack (Poisoned) only. Silly me for thinking you might actually check the figure.
I was actually responding to both you and crazychester, who'd already beat you to this point. His billion a week appears (the paper isn't incredibly clear) to be referring to p2p in general. (As you have throughout, and did in the rest of that post.)
Now could you try and continue your startling factual contributions to this topic. So far you've got:
* More music is downloaded through p2p than iTMS
* More music is downloaded on the Fastrack p2p network than iTMS
* iTMS tracks have DRM
Want to try taking these meagre facts that I've sifted out for you, add some that aren't blindingly obvious to everyone, and put them into an argument or framework of thought that actually makes some kind of sense?
I can't believe how often people on an Apple (~3% marketshare) forum fall back on the McDonalds argument: it must be better food, look how many people eat there.
I can't believe how often people on an Apple (~3% marketshare) forum fall back on the McDonalds argument: it must be better food, look how many people eat there.
Her billion a week......
I can't believe how often people on an Apple forum fall back on the assumption: it must be a guy, look how many guys there are here.
(sorry stupider....... cheap shot but obviously irresistible)
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I can't imagine anyone arguing with that. I don't think it's a particularly interesting observation either, but I'm not going to argue with it.
I know that the actual number of files kept can be much smaller than those attempted... so which metric is used, and how are they determining it?
Originally posted by stupider...likeafox
So you're saying: there are less music downloads through iTMS than all the p2p apps put together.
Nope. That figure is for Kazaa/Fasttrack (Poisoned) only. Silly me for thinking you might actually check the figure.
Barto
Originally posted by Barto
Nope. That figure is for Kazaa/Fasttrack (Poisoned) only. Silly me for thinking you might actually check the figure.
Barto
Silly indeed. There's been no evidence of them checking the facts so far. Why start now? (Yes stupider... there are less iTMS downloads than all the P2P apps put together. And no, that's not my opinion. That's a fact.)
Is this a good time to point out the irony of this debate carrying on while in the very same thread iTMS customers are busily discussing stripping the DRM off their iTMS files. Not entirely satisfied customers it would seem.
Oh and lookee where the labels are collecting information from to boost sales http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...ss/8318571.htm (another article for you not to read).
Kickaha (a) and (b), to an extent, represent different issues (with the proviso that the numbers depend on who's doing the counting and how they're counting them). (b) is the more interesting one. It's one example of where the sampling debate comes in to play. As far as the labels are concerned, we should be paying for every piece of music whether it's the one we wanted/liked/whatever or not.
You vill not try before you buy. Sieg heil!
Originally posted by Barto
Nope. That figure is for Kazaa/Fasttrack (Poisoned) only. Silly me for thinking you might actually check the figure.
I was actually responding to both you and crazychester, who'd already beat you to this point. His billion a week appears (the paper isn't incredibly clear) to be referring to p2p in general. (As you have throughout, and did in the rest of that post.)
Now could you try and continue your startling factual contributions to this topic. So far you've got:
* More music is downloaded through p2p than iTMS
* More music is downloaded on the Fastrack p2p network than iTMS
* iTMS tracks have DRM
Want to try taking these meagre facts that I've sifted out for you, add some that aren't blindingly obvious to everyone, and put them into an argument or framework of thought that actually makes some kind of sense?
I can't believe how often people on an Apple (~3% marketshare) forum fall back on the McDonalds argument: it must be better food, look how many people eat there.
Originally posted by stupider...likeafox
His billion a week.........
I can't believe how often people on an Apple (~3% marketshare) forum fall back on the McDonalds argument: it must be better food, look how many people eat there.
Her billion a week......
I can't believe how often people on an Apple forum fall back on the assumption: it must be a guy, look how many guys there are here.
(sorry stupider....... cheap shot but obviously irresistible)
Too tired right now.
Originally posted by Vistago
Is it gone?
Yes it's gone from SourceForge but it's somewher else. Hang on......
http://sarovar.org/projects/playfair/
There you go. Proceed.
Originally posted by tonton
Bitchin. Got a Cocoa UI version there, too.
D'oh, it crashes with high-ASCII characters like the various accents. Easy fix though.