I'm just kind of thinking out loud, but there can be room for a MOT G5 in the Apple product line. Assuming Apple uses IBM's new 970, the only way to realistically take advantage of what it has to offer, at least at first, is more RAM. But, Apple doesn't have a motherboard that can do that just yet.
If Apple were to produce a machine, I guess call it a workstation, that had a dozen RAM slots (ahhh...the 9600 days!) the 970 chip could handle it. That board would be expensive though, and absolutely unnecessary for most users. So, a premium cost with a premium chip.
In the meantime, most PowerMac users would still be working faster than x86 counterparts if they had a G4 with a faster bus/G5 from MOT. Just my two sense.
An extra two, or 7457, tells me that die-shrink is the only difference.
Motorola is obviously keeping as many numbers as possible between 7460 and 7499 free for use.
If Motorola isn't screwing around again, then we may see a Rapid I/O G4 in a few years time. I think Motorola will forget about the G4 though. The 85xx is the future for the company.
A dozen RAM slots are unlikely, due to the problems of getting high frequency parallel connections to go long distances. EDO/FPM DIMMs: OK, PC2700 and up: no way.
<strong>A dozen RAM slots are unlikely, due to the problems of getting high frequency parallel connections to go long distances. EDO/FPM DIMMs: OK, PC2700 and up: no way.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know it would be tough, but perhaps the specialized system controller people seem to be talking about could help bridge the gap, I don't know.
How do high end systems do it now? RAMBUS??!? (ACK!!)
<strong>A dozen RAM slots are unlikely, due to the problems of getting high frequency parallel connections to go long distances. EDO/FPM DIMMs: OK, PC2700 and up: no way.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Like this? Those are 12 PC2700 DIMM slots, 6 per processor.
Geez, would somebody just drive a stake through Moto's heart already and finish it?! They've shown their ineptitude to be monumental and interest in the PowerPC processor to be minimal. If they want back in then they can prove it by making an innovative chip that actually competes with IBM. If not, screw 'em. Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Looks a heck of a lot like at least 18 slots, possibly interleaved? There are two used slots on each side, near the bottom.
The premise of my original idea was just that Apple could further differentiate machines based on other specs, like RAM, more IDE controllers like the X-Serve, etc.
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If Apple were to produce a machine, I guess call it a workstation, that had a dozen RAM slots (ahhh...the 9600 days!) the 970 chip could handle it. That board would be expensive though, and absolutely unnecessary for most users. So, a premium cost with a premium chip.
In the meantime, most PowerMac users would still be working faster than x86 counterparts if they had a G4 with a faster bus/G5 from MOT. Just my two sense.
An extra two, or 7457, tells me that die-shrink is the only difference.
Motorola is obviously keeping as many numbers as possible between 7460 and 7499 free for use.
If Motorola isn't screwing around again, then we may see a Rapid I/O G4 in a few years time. I think Motorola will forget about the G4 though. The 85xx is the future for the company.
Barto
<strong>If Motorola isn't screwing around again</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's a mighty BIG IF isn't it?
Sorry I haven't MOT bash'd in a while and I felt the need...
<strong>We can expect 750FX reaching 1.2 GHz in its Polaris strain in 2003. But I don't expect to see those in Macs for a while..
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What's about your stuff from IBM?
But no Rapid Io?
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Why am I not surprised? Guess Apple sticks with 'hackserve' until the 970?
Unless Apple have some 'Apple Pi' 'tween now and then?
The G4 needs somekind of reverse 'Yikes' to give it some self respect...
Shakes head. Oh. Dear.
Half hearted 'yay'...we stumble over 1.25 gighz....(half hearted...) 'booooo'...crippled architecture that holds back the chips potential.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />
Sorry I haven't MOT bash'd in a while and I felt the need... "
I love you Dave
Lemon Bon Bon
<strong>So, the .13 G4 is up to 1.8 gighz?
But no Rapid Io?
<img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Why am I not surprised? Guess Apple sticks with 'hackserve' until the 970?
Unless Apple have some 'Apple Pi' 'tween now and then?
The G4 needs somekind of reverse 'Yikes' to give it some self respect...
Shakes head. Oh. Dear.
Half hearted 'yay'...we stumble over 1.25 gighz....(half hearted...) 'booooo'...crippled architecture that holds back the chips potential.
Whoop-dee-doo.
Lemon Bon Bon <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
We only can hope, IBM will earlier ship the PPC970 as we thought.
Maybe a PPC950 or something like that
<strong>A dozen RAM slots are unlikely, due to the problems of getting high frequency parallel connections to go long distances. EDO/FPM DIMMs: OK, PC2700 and up: no way.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know it would be tough, but perhaps the specialized system controller people seem to be talking about could help bridge the gap, I don't know.
How do high end systems do it now? RAMBUS??!? (ACK!!)
<strong>A dozen RAM slots are unlikely, due to the problems of getting high frequency parallel connections to go long distances. EDO/FPM DIMMs: OK, PC2700 and up: no way.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Like this? Those are 12 PC2700 DIMM slots, 6 per processor.
Like this? Those are 12 PC2700 DIMM slots, 6 per processor.
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Hey, how much does a 6 PC2700 slot Opteron board cost? Let alone a dual...
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Like this? Those are 12 PC2700 DIMM slots, 6 per processor.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sure looks like more than 12 slots... I count at least 15 and can't realy tell if more are hidden in the bottom.
Dave
[ 10-19-2002: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
The premise of my original idea was just that Apple could further differentiate machines based on other specs, like RAM, more IDE controllers like the X-Serve, etc.
<strong>Apparently the Opteron Eskimo is using can't count.
Don't blame the processor for a PEBCAK
On second count I guess that's 16 slots, 8 per CPU.
As for your question THT I don't know, I get mine for free
[ 10-19-2002: Message edited by: Eskimo ]</p>