Has anyone heard if Apple is making their own web authoring program? I heard a rumor about this awhile ago but wasn't sure. I think this would be great considering DWMX 2004 is pretty much worthless.
I dunno. I think this is a little outside of Apple's media-app scope right now but I certainly wouldn't mind it if Apple were to create a powerful, stable and standards-integrated WYSIWYG app. It would have to be a direct competitor to GoLive and DWMX though, otherwise I wouldn't even bother. The world doesn't need another failed "consumer web design app".
FrontPage
Fusion
PageMill
Claris
etc
etc
Those things are just worthless. Might've been cute back in 96 when everyone wanted to make their own web page but now they would do nothing but take shelf space away from more useful apps IMO. Even Freeway lacks truly powerful tools as far as CSS and the like are concerned. It's just "Quark for the web" IMO, which is not a good thing since Quark sucks.
i've heard lots of people complain of Studio MX 2004 being bad. i've had some problems but overall i love it. it starts up quickly, finally! and files open quickly as well
i'm selling an extra copy i have. check my signature for the link
i've heard lots of people complain of Studio MX 2004 being bad. i've had some problems but overall i love it. it starts up quickly, finally! and files open quickly as well
Must be pretty good if you're hocking it on eBay!
I have the original MX suite...and it's okay, but the interface is worse than it should be. And FlashMX is alpha-quality software. I don't think Macromedia has QA anymore...they've outsourced everything to India as well.
I have the original MX suite...and it's okay, but the interface is worse than it should be. And FlashMX is alpha-quality software. I don't think Macromedia has QA anymore...they've outsourced everything to India as well.
as i said in my orignal post, this is an extra NEW copy
I think the time for an Apple web page editor has passed.
If you look at HTML now - just W3C standard HTML - there is a potent enough combination of capabilities and limitations to make any drag-and-drop design tool very difficult. That goes double if you're trying to use XHTML and CSS in meaningful ways. It was much simpler back in the days of Claris HomePage, when there wasn't all that much to HTML, or to web design generally.
Then, of course, there's the minefield of browser compatibility, which has gotten much harder to navigate since the early days.
Basically, for the above reasons, and also because the original design goals of the web have been completely forsaken, web design is the province of pros. Given that, the only dead simple way to do consumer web pages that don't suck is to use professionally designed templates, which is the approach Apple's already taken with .Mac.
Until a lot more progress has been made with web standards in general, and support for web standards in particular, it'll never be easy enough for an iApp to do.
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Love the program...
Originally posted by ZO
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Love the program...
Hehe. I think he meant an a little more up-to-date app ...
Claris ... those were the days.
But it makes the most sense financially if you're a designer, and/or you spring for the whole CS suite.
There's also Freeway...
Originally posted by pocket
[ DWMX 2004 is pretty much worthless. [/B]
Huh? Dreamweaver 2004 from Macromedia worthless. PUT AWAY THE CRACK PIPE NOW SONNY IT WILL ONLY END IN TEARS.... WHAT RU SMOKING?
1. DWMX supports full CSS very well.
2. Its server based solution extensions are unmatched.
3. Its support of XML is brilliant
4. Its interface and GUI is one of the best.
5. MM have done amazing job of flash and dreamweaver compatibility
6. Its faster.
7. Its cross platform compatible works. UNLIKE ADOBE
God next thing we will want to spin off allaire as a separate company again...
Apple should BUY Macromedia if they ever had the money.
Oh and by the way welcome to AI.
FrontPage
Fusion
PageMill
Claris
etc
etc
Those things are just worthless. Might've been cute back in 96 when everyone wanted to make their own web page but now they would do nothing but take shelf space away from more useful apps IMO. Even Freeway lacks truly powerful tools as far as CSS and the like are concerned. It's just "Quark for the web" IMO, which is not a good thing since Quark sucks.
i'm selling an extra copy i have. check my signature for the link
Originally posted by burningwheel
i've heard lots of people complain of Studio MX 2004 being bad. i've had some problems but overall i love it. it starts up quickly, finally! and files open quickly as well
Must be pretty good if you're hocking it on eBay!
I have the original MX suite...and it's okay, but the interface is worse than it should be. And FlashMX is alpha-quality software. I don't think Macromedia has QA anymore...they've outsourced everything to India as well.
Originally posted by pocket
considering DWMX 2004 is pretty much worthless.
Care to elaborate?
Originally posted by Gizzmonic
Must be pretty good if you're hocking it on eBay!
I have the original MX suite...and it's okay, but the interface is worse than it should be. And FlashMX is alpha-quality software. I don't think Macromedia has QA anymore...they've outsourced everything to India as well.
as i said in my orignal post, this is an extra NEW copy
If you look at HTML now - just W3C standard HTML - there is a potent enough combination of capabilities and limitations to make any drag-and-drop design tool very difficult. That goes double if you're trying to use XHTML and CSS in meaningful ways. It was much simpler back in the days of Claris HomePage, when there wasn't all that much to HTML, or to web design generally.
Then, of course, there's the minefield of browser compatibility, which has gotten much harder to navigate since the early days.
Basically, for the above reasons, and also because the original design goals of the web have been completely forsaken, web design is the province of pros. Given that, the only dead simple way to do consumer web pages that don't suck is to use professionally designed templates, which is the approach Apple's already taken with .Mac.
Until a lot more progress has been made with web standards in general, and support for web standards in particular, it'll never be easy enough for an iApp to do.
just pop urself in the terminal and type:
David-Legatts-Computer:~ dave$ cd sites
David-Legatts-Computer:~/sites dave$ emacs index.php
Originally posted by madmax559
vi
Well, aren't you 1337.
Originally posted by Placebo
Well, aren't you 1337.
Not so much 1337 as enlightened...
Hey, since there's an emacs comment two posts up, we could turn this into an emacs vs. vi flame war!!! YAAY!!!
Actually, I rather like SubEthaEdit. So useful, such a clean design.