Since we are talking the Apple keyboard, I would like to discuss on the Apple mouse too
Few weeks ago, my Apple Pro Mouse (white, came with the last dual G4) went bad. I called AppleCare and requested for a new mouse. They shipped me the current Apple USB mouse, I somewhat don't like it. It's covered with all white from the top to the bottom. I love one-button mouse, but I leave it untouched. Right now, I use the red Logitech optical wheel mouse.
It's totally obnoxious and unergonomic that you can't adjust the current Apple Keyboard. What bugs me even more is that the new keyboard is angled by default. I like my keyboards to lie flat, not propped up at an angle.
well, as a sloppy typist, i hate the new one for having a pin-hole for the caps lock light. the old one has a much larger lite under a translucent key.
I like the new one because of the USB ports in the back. They hide away nicely. I have never needed to adjust my keyboard. (My G3 had an adjustable one) so I never ran into that problem. I like the white keys/black letters better than the black keys/white letter combination. Than again I have a black desk, so black keys would blend in with the background. The only problem I have with this keyboard is it's size. I would like some kind of frame/boarder. I find that it helps center your hands an makes typing easier.
Of those two I prefer the black key KB (slightly better tactile feel and a lilly *white* keyboard is just a bad idea) but I find that neither of them are anywhere near as good as the old beige Apple Pro keyboards (pre-USB). Remember them?
Personally, I think I find Apple's new keyboards too soft and mooshy and the keyboard spacing a bit too cramped. Who does make good keyboards these days?
Personally, I think I find Apple's new keyboards too soft and mooshy and the keyboard spacing a bit too cramped. Who does make good keyboards these days?
C.
That's because you've spent too much time typing on crappy PC keyboards with their mechanical switches, and you're accustomed to them. Once you get used to the Apple USB keyboards, they blow away anything else. Incidently, the keys are just about the same as anything aside from a split key keyboard, too.
Anyway, I have a white USB Pro, which now I've found is exactly the same as the black one. So I'm probably going to stay with the USB Pro rather that the new one.
That's because you've spent too much time typing on crappy PC keyboards with their mechanical switches, and you're accustomed to them.
I don't think you could call the Natural Keyboard I'm typing on now "crappy" but (on my Mac) I've used those mushy keyboards for... at least a year now and they just don't have a good feel under the fingers. Actually, at the company I used to work for we all used the old beige Apple Pro keyboards with USB adapters(?) until we finally burned out the last of them. We all prefered the older keyboards, so I know I'm not alone in that respect.
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Once you get used to the Apple USB keyboards, they blow away anything else. Incidently, the keys are just about the same as anything aside from a split key keyboard, too.
Well, I've used them for a year now and they certainly haven't "blown me away". Maybe my fingers are stronger than most... I'm sure they are slightly tighter spaced than their previous keyboards, there's definitely something different about them. If I try to type too quickly on them I seem to miss the odd key - particularly the cmd/opt/ctrl keys.
I don't think you could call the Natural Keyboard I'm typing on now "crappy" but (on my Mac) I've used those mushy keyboards for...
Just my 2 bits.
A friend of mine who I work with is always yammering on about how big his hands are, and that they force him to get the "Natural" keyboard, use the big Xbox controller, etc.
It turns out that his hands are no bigger than mine. In fact, our palms and fingers couldn't be any more size-similar, though my fingers are more bony and arthritic.
Anyway, I suppose it's entirely possible that some people have fewer nerves in their fingers than others. I'm no piano or guitar playing dude with any sort of above average finger control, but I certainly can sense the Apple keyboard keys, and their lightness makes my speed and accuracy much better.
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Originally posted by Scott
So you can't adjust the new one?
Nope.
Since we are talking the Apple keyboard, I would like to discuss on the Apple mouse too
Few weeks ago, my Apple Pro Mouse (white, came with the last dual G4) went bad. I called AppleCare and requested for a new mouse. They shipped me the current Apple USB mouse, I somewhat don't like it. It's covered with all white from the top to the bottom. I love one-button mouse, but I leave it untouched. Right now, I use the red Logitech optical wheel mouse.
Escher
Originally posted by Escher
It's totally obnoxious and unergonomic that you can't adjust the current Apple Keyboard. ...[snip]...
Yeah, that is a regressive step design wise imho. I wonder what they were thinking?
- Xidius
This is one of the few reasons why I won't buy the new Apple Wireless Keyboard. Damn these money-saving designs.
Originally posted by Dr. John Zoidberg
I like my keyboards flat, too. Plus, I read it's much more ergonomic to use a keyboard that way.
That's what I have read as well. More importantly, that's what my wrists tell me when I have to use an angled keyboard for more than two minutes.
Damn these money-saving designs.
Couldn't have said it better, so I'll just repeat: Damn these money-saving designs!!!
Apple used to be justified in taking pride in its ergonomic design. It no longer is.
Escher
much better.
That said, I do like the keyboard angled. But for those who don't, it doesn't make sense to not allow them to do that.
Personally, I think I find Apple's new keyboards too soft and mooshy and the keyboard spacing a bit too cramped. Who does make good keyboards these days?
C.
Originally posted by Concord
Personally, I think I find Apple's new keyboards too soft and mooshy and the keyboard spacing a bit too cramped. Who does make good keyboards these days?
C.
That's because you've spent too much time typing on crappy PC keyboards with their mechanical switches, and you're accustomed to them. Once you get used to the Apple USB keyboards, they blow away anything else. Incidently, the keys are just about the same as anything aside from a split key keyboard, too.
Anyway, I have a white USB Pro, which now I've found is exactly the same as the black one. So I'm probably going to stay with the USB Pro rather that the new one.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
That's because you've spent too much time typing on crappy PC keyboards with their mechanical switches, and you're accustomed to them.
I don't think you could call the Natural Keyboard I'm typing on now "crappy" but (on my Mac) I've used those mushy keyboards for... at least a year now and they just don't have a good feel under the fingers. Actually, at the company I used to work for we all used the old beige Apple Pro keyboards with USB adapters(?) until we finally burned out the last of them. We all prefered the older keyboards, so I know I'm not alone in that respect.
Once you get used to the Apple USB keyboards, they blow away anything else. Incidently, the keys are just about the same as anything aside from a split key keyboard, too.
Well, I've used them for a year now and they certainly haven't "blown me away". Maybe my fingers are stronger than most...
Just my 2 bits.
Originally posted by Concord
I don't think you could call the Natural Keyboard I'm typing on now "crappy" but (on my Mac) I've used those mushy keyboards for...
Just my 2 bits.
A friend of mine who I work with is always yammering on about how big his hands are, and that they force him to get the "Natural" keyboard, use the big Xbox controller, etc.
It turns out that his hands are no bigger than mine. In fact, our palms and fingers couldn't be any more size-similar, though my fingers are more bony and arthritic.
Anyway, I suppose it's entirely possible that some people have fewer nerves in their fingers than others. I'm no piano or guitar playing dude with any sort of above average finger control, but I certainly can sense the Apple keyboard keys, and their lightness makes my speed and accuracy much better.
Originally posted by Concord
Who does make good keyboards these days?
C.
If and only if, you're a touch typist, the scissors keyboard from Macally (icekey?) is pretty good. Feels very similar to a Powerbook keyboard.
Matches one's iBook or iMac since it's white. Spoke to a sales rep and they said a black and possibly a graphite version is planned.