I f*ckin' hate the Finder
God damn it! That disk is NOT in use! There are no freakin' open applications! Just eject the damn disk or tell me what's stopping you!
I've decided the single worst thing about OS X for me is the damn finder. All I'm trying to do is eject my CF card properly so that I can go on with my life. Does it do it? NOOOOOOOO. I quit all my applications just to make sure nothing was using it. I relaunched the finder. I even logged out and back in, just to be sure. Finally I gave up and just pulled the damn thing out. Even THEN it didn't let me "eject" it. It still said the disk was in use. WTF!?!?! The only way it recognized that the card was no longer in was to unplug the reader. (BTW, this happens EVERYTIME I try to eject my CF card. I've never seen it with my SD cards. Just my CF card (same reader). )
I fuckin' hate the finder. HATE IT HATE HATE IT.
/rant
I've decided the single worst thing about OS X for me is the damn finder. All I'm trying to do is eject my CF card properly so that I can go on with my life. Does it do it? NOOOOOOOO. I quit all my applications just to make sure nothing was using it. I relaunched the finder. I even logged out and back in, just to be sure. Finally I gave up and just pulled the damn thing out. Even THEN it didn't let me "eject" it. It still said the disk was in use. WTF!?!?! The only way it recognized that the card was no longer in was to unplug the reader. (BTW, this happens EVERYTIME I try to eject my CF card. I've never seen it with my SD cards. Just my CF card (same reader). )
I fuckin' hate the finder. HATE IT HATE HATE IT.
/rant
Comments
> lsof path-to-your_card
to see what files are open at that path and the processes responsible.
Yeah, the Finder needs work.
Originally posted by torifile
I've decided the single worst thing about OS X for me is the damn finder.
Agreed 100%. The thing that pisses me off most is iDisk support. Using my iDisk in KDE on Linux is fantastic, it's like a slightly slow local drive. In the Finder, CRUNCH.
WTF Apple? You product works better on Linux than Mac OS X! Fix it!
Barto
locations, the finder makes it harder for me. At work, I use windows 2000 and
its fast and snappy compared to OS X and, it seems like I can find files faster.
And another thing I don't like. Why does Apple set up the sheets to come out slowly? I just found a hint on how to speed sheets opening up on macoshints and tried it and ended up scratching my head as to why it was set up to be slow in the first place. C'mon Apple, when people are working, they don't want to see special effects everytime they have to print or whatever. Speed up OS X so I can get my work done faster and easier!
Originally posted by Stoo
In the terminal type:
Code:
> lsof path-to-your_card
to see what files are open at that path and the processes responsible.
Thanks. I'll have to make that a sticky so I can remember it.
Is there ANY workaround for this? I don't want my 512 meg CF card to become corrupted while I'm on my honeymoon or something. I guess I could just shut the computer down before taking it out. This is stupid.
Originally posted by torifile
Is there ANY workaround for this?
I usually force-Relaunch the Finder in such situations...seems to work.
Hey, I've been meaning to ask.... yer handle.... you like Toris in general or one in particular?......
Originally posted by sc_markt
I find that when I'm doing a lot of work and have to access files in different
locations, the finder makes it harder for me. At work, I use windows 2000 and
its fast and snappy compared to OS X and, it seems like I can find files faster.
Well, the Finder will likely never be as fast as Explorer because Explorer is launched in kernel space, and the Finder is treated on par with any other app. That means you walk on eggshells with Explorer because while it doesn't go down too often, when it does, it will eventually drag the rest of the system down to the point that you have to reboot. I've abused the Finder quite a bit and it doesn't affect anything else, but if Explorer chokes when creating thumbnails of big pictures in a folder, I save up and get out of my other apps before they go south on me.
Finding files for me is a synch between the instant search and the sidebar. I think OS X's find abilities are less of a hassle than Explorer's big ol' search feature too, though I think they could still be improved quite a bit. I hate it when I right-click on "Search" instead of "Explore" on my windows box at work.
And another thing I don't like. Why does Apple set up the sheets to come out slowly?
What version of the OS are you using? Panther seems just fine in this department, much better IMO than Jaguar anyway. By the time it scrolls down completely, the dialog and its contents are ready, maybe a second at most? If Apple isn't doing this now, they should set up these animations to skip frames rather than slow down. This is what Exposé does, and in all it's a good solution when my Mac is chewing on swap space. I know other animations like the genie minimizing effect didn't do this in past version of Mac OS X. I haven't really noticed if this has changed elsewhere.
Originally posted by sc_markt
I just found a hint on how to speed sheets opening up on macoshints and tried it and ended up scratching my head as to why it was set up to be slow in the first place.
Wow! I was just searching for a hint like this on macosxhints, but couldn't find one. I guess it was just posted on Thursday. Sweet.
My main gripe with the finder is how it handles large file transfers. If I have to transfer more than a few hundred meg between volumes, I always use the terminal.
And why isn't the search-by-content based on grep? It's sooooo much faster.
C.
To be fair, OS9 did this as well, but if I want to view *everything* in list view (and that includes save dialogs) - you should be able to do that! I mean, if even Windows can do this right, there certainly can't be any reason why OS:X shouldn't be able to. It's just one of those things that you have to do so often that even something that may seem like a little thing can be grating.
C.
Originally posted by Noleli2
And why isn't the search-by-content based on grep? It's sooooo much faster.
Good point! I also wonder why more system and applications' scheduled tasks don't make use of the cron function.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Well, the Finder will likely never be as fast as Explorer because Explorer is launched in kernel space, and the Finder is treated on par with any other app.
Please prove that Explorer is launched in kernel space. Windows' GUI layer is, yes.
That means you walk on eggshells with Explorer because while it doesn't go down too often, when it does, it will eventually drag the rest of the system down to the point that you have to reboot.
On Windows 9x, maybe, but certainly not on NT. Try it: killall -9 "explorer.exe" (using Cygwin, for instance), run a game, or Photoshop, or whatever, use it for a few minutes or hours, then launch "explorer.exe" again. No crash, no instability. Just the lack of the desktop manager, i.e. no taskbar, no desktop background, no file management on its own, unless you launch an alternate tool for that (like geOShell).
Originally posted by BuonRotto
Well, the Finder will likely never be as fast as Explorer because Explorer is launched in kernel space, and the Finder is treated on par with any other app. That means you walk on eggshells with Explorer because while it doesn't go down too often, when it does, it will eventually drag the rest of the system down to the point that you have to reboot.
Why is KDE's Konqueror so fast then? It runs in userland.
Originally posted by CosmoNut
Yeah, the Finder needs work.
No. It needs rework.
Fast is, I have about 5 HDs (FW, internal, iPod, etc).
WHY ON EARTH DOES THE WHOLE OS FREEZE when I do some things that dont even need to look for another HD???? Spinning up blocks iTunes in mid-stutter and is just a pain in the ass! WHY!!!!???