Well, like Apple said earlier they will be slowing down on making new versions os X, so my bet is there will be some cool stuff to keep us feature hungry people satisfied until the next update.
Boring? Ohhhh you mean like Panther. I mean what new features did end users get? Expose and a few UI tweaks? I think Tiger is going to be a huge update. The fact that no one has gotten any information bodes well. Just like aqua which came fron nowhere I expect Tiger to have features that amaze. Panther led the charge by focusing on internal features. Tiger should see those changes reach fruition with new and cool featues. Apple wouldn't let us down. Software is what they know.
Boring? Ohhhh you mean like Panther. I mean what new features did end users get?
I would go as far as saying that Panther was the first REALLY usable version of OS X. Also, being able to switch between users without 'Log-Out' first made a huge difference for me.
Well this WWDC better bring some big new things if the next update is a while off.
Although I can not image what? Expose did suprise me, and fast user switching is really useful for my wife and myself. Lets hope they've still got it..
I hope Apples focus is not swinging too much towards iPods and iTunes..
Obviously , you haven't seen the new Preview app (with faster PDF browsing!) and the new fast user switching spiny-cube effect and the new Internet Connect icon, and umm...
There was a *little* leaked info on Panther a few months before being shown at last year's WWDC, and word about Exposé leaked out just a few days before.
But there's just been practically nothing -- save a handful of almost ridiculously vaguely worded scraps from the rumor sites -- about Tiger. Apple has done a good job keeping the lid sealed on this one.
I'd expect some good stuff... new features, one or two considerable UI enhancements, a tiny dip into the waters of enhanced metadata, a slew of new and revamped technologies, and a host of many, many little better things (erase a CD from the Finder, hello?). But 10.5 is going to be the big one, one that pushes OS X to Longhorn's equal and beyond.
When Panther first came out I thought it was a boring update too. Until I really started using it. Lots of little improvements, and expose blew me away. FUS couldn't have been more useful.
But Tiger should be the big one for new features. But I hate so say, maybe Apple will hold off on the meta-data file system until 10.5, just so that they can really show Microsoft how to really do it!
Well, Panther was the first X version that made OS 9 feel really, really old to me. It is refined and the perfect base to build on. So much so that I am expecting updates to only come once every 2-3 years. But still, I am really excited to think what new features they will add.
features like... a total finder rewrite? Usable ftp? Instantaneous iDisk operations?
I agree that Panther was the cat's pajamas. UI subtleties (easier on the eyes), FUS, rock-solid-stable(!), exposé, etc, made for a substantial improvement. The finder was better, but still sucks in a fundamental way.
Well, Panther was the first X version that made OS 9 feel really, really old to me. It is refined and the perfect base to build on. So much so that I am expecting updates to only come once every 2-3 years. But still, I am really excited to think what new features they will add.
Call me crasy but in 3 years, will it not be time for OS11, or OSXI?
I'm going to miss the yearly updates. Lots of talk, speculation, new feature when it finally arrives. 2-3 years sounds so long \ It was like getting a new computer every year.
It was fun downloading the dev preview...loading it onto my brothers computer to test it, it working until I load it onto his main HD when it constantly crashes. Man those were the days. I have my own computer now, but it was still fun.
Call me crasy but in 3 years, will it not be time for OS11, or OSXI?
Apple never usualy goes past OS/*.6
When Steve announced OSX, he said it would be Apples OS for the next 15 years or so - ithought i remebered 20, but that can't be right. How long has it been? 3 so far?
How the hell could OS X survive for 20 years? 20 years ago, computers would take up a whole room. There's no way any OS would survive 20 years, or even 15 years
One area still on Apple's to do list is the whole recovery, repair and management issue.
I hope they get this area knocked into shape before adding more dubious features. I didn't buy Panther and don't want yearly paid major upgrades.
Anything that makes managing a mac a breeze (boring or otherwise) gets my vote.
Number one on the list has to be a way to undo absolutely everything (from trashing items to system updates) in a clean, safe and quick manner.
Replacing OS X components individually.
Safe web surfing (Deep Freeze style functionality).
Extending and improving software update to cover third party apps and management.
All the useful OS 9 functionality that has yet to return.
On the 'surprise' front I'd say that 'voice control' (of the quality that actually persuades users to use it and with multiple language support) has to pop up at some point but maybe not with Tiger.
How the hell could OS X survive for 20 years? 20 years ago, computers would take up a whole room. There's no way any OS would survive 20 years, or even 15 years
I'm tellin 'ya, that's what he said. OSX is Unix based, how old is that?
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And no, we didn't know about features in Panther this time last year.
God (and a few others) knows what.
Originally posted by hmurchison
Boring? Ohhhh you mean like Panther. I mean what new features did end users get?
I would go as far as saying that Panther was the first REALLY usable version of OS X. Also, being able to switch between users without 'Log-Out' first made a huge difference for me.
Although I can not image what? Expose did suprise me, and fast user switching is really useful for my wife and myself. Lets hope they've still got it..
I hope Apples focus is not swinging too much towards iPods and iTunes..
Any word on a stream?
Originally posted by hmurchison
Boring? Ohhhh you mean like Panther.
Obviously , you haven't seen the new Preview app (with faster PDF browsing!) and the new fast user switching spiny-cube effect and the new Internet Connect icon, and umm...
Yeah, I'm waiting for Tiger, too.
But there's just been practically nothing -- save a handful of almost ridiculously vaguely worded scraps from the rumor sites -- about Tiger. Apple has done a good job keeping the lid sealed on this one.
I'd expect some good stuff... new features, one or two considerable UI enhancements, a tiny dip into the waters of enhanced metadata, a slew of new and revamped technologies, and a host of many, many little better things (erase a CD from the Finder, hello?). But 10.5 is going to be the big one, one that pushes OS X to Longhorn's equal and beyond.
But Tiger should be the big one for new features. But I hate so say, maybe Apple will hold off on the meta-data file system until 10.5, just so that they can really show Microsoft how to really do it!
I agree that Panther was the cat's pajamas. UI subtleties (easier on the eyes), FUS, rock-solid-stable(!), exposé, etc, made for a substantial improvement. The finder was better, but still sucks in a fundamental way.
Originally posted by anand
Well, Panther was the first X version that made OS 9 feel really, really old to me. It is refined and the perfect base to build on. So much so that I am expecting updates to only come once every 2-3 years. But still, I am really excited to think what new features they will add.
Call me crasy but in 3 years, will it not be time for OS11, or OSXI?
Apple never usualy goes past OS/*.6
It was fun downloading the dev preview...loading it onto my brothers computer to test it, it working until I load it onto his main HD when it constantly crashes. Man those were the days. I have my own computer now, but it was still fun.
iChat AV
Tweaked Finder
* Create archive (.zip) files directly from Finder
* Labels
Disk Utility Rewrite
Expose
Fast User Switching
Mail updated
Safari updated
Preview updated
Journaled FS now default
Improved CMD-TAB functionality
Improved Font Handling (Font Book)
FAX send / receive built into OS
Improved printing to Windows shares printers
File Vault
V.92 Incoming Call Notification
Improved BlueTooth Support
XCode
Not bad for the $69 student price I paid for it and worth the $129 normal asking price, IMHO.
Originally posted by a_greer
Call me crasy but in 3 years, will it not be time for OS11, or OSXI?
Apple never usualy goes past OS/*.6
When Steve announced OSX, he said it would be Apples OS for the next 15 years or so - ithought i remebered 20, but that can't be right. How long has it been? 3 so far?
One area still on Apple's to do list is the whole recovery, repair and management issue.
I hope they get this area knocked into shape before adding more dubious features. I didn't buy Panther and don't want yearly paid major upgrades.
Anything that makes managing a mac a breeze (boring or otherwise) gets my vote.
Number one on the list has to be a way to undo absolutely everything (from trashing items to system updates) in a clean, safe and quick manner.
Replacing OS X components individually.
Safe web surfing (Deep Freeze style functionality).
Extending and improving software update to cover third party apps and management.
All the useful OS 9 functionality that has yet to return.
On the 'surprise' front I'd say that 'voice control' (of the quality that actually persuades users to use it and with multiple language support) has to pop up at some point but maybe not with Tiger.
Originally posted by psgamer0921
How the hell could OS X survive for 20 years? 20 years ago, computers would take up a whole room. There's no way any OS would survive 20 years, or even 15 years
I'm tellin 'ya, that's what he said. OSX is Unix based, how old is that?