What a Mac Specialist told me today...

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  • Reply 81 of 104
    dcqdcq Posts: 349member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by McCrab

    60GB does seem excessive for a music player. There must be something more to this next generation iPod



    Yep. 20 GB more...
  • Reply 82 of 104
    limtclimtc Posts: 82member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by DCQ

    Yep. 20 GB more...



    probably enough for Apple to switch to an OS that uses a lot more HD space, and controlled by Apple.
  • Reply 83 of 104
    Apple sales reps are not told any more than we are. Apple's created PDAs before (or are all of you too young to remember the Newton?) -- and they could certainly expand on the capabilities of the iPod -- but some sales drone isn't likely to know more than what i could make up and feed to you.



    BTW -- isn't it ironic that AppleInsider is running ads for Gateway computers in this forum
  • Reply 84 of 104
    hobbithobbit Posts: 532member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by limtc

    probably enough for Apple to switch to an OS that uses a lot more HD space, and controlled by Apple.



    How about 'QuickTime 7' as the new iPod OS?
  • Reply 85 of 104
    zozo Posts: 3,117member
    The "PDA" like Palm is DEAD and buried since years. Anyone with just about any portable phone from the last couple years has the same basic functionalities as a PDA.



    I used to have a Palm III that I havent touched in years because I can set appointments, and obviously contacts, and stuff on my GSM...



    Indeed, Jobs said PDAs are dead... but that doesnt mean Apple may not be working on somekind of OQO device...



    I really would want a mini mini PowerBook/Tablet type device. A small 8 to 10 inch screen...
  • Reply 86 of 104
    gamblorgamblor Posts: 446member
    Quote:

    The "PDA" like Palm is DEAD and buried since years. Anyone with just about any portable phone from the last couple years has the same basic functionalities as a PDA.



    ...except for a resonable text input method-- not to mention a resonably sized display. Sorry, but even though current PDAs don't have all that great a method of text input, it beats trying to key in alphanumeric characters with a 10 key keypad. Thumboards are a bit better, but it's still no substitute for good handwriting recognition while on the go.



    I miss the Newton.
  • Reply 87 of 104
    nijiniji Posts: 288member
    in yr pref panel there is network. open it up and look at the iPv6 address.

    this will be yr fone number within two years, after wi-fi is invested in by everybody, everywhere.

    the device is a small, wi-fi connected screen with colour lcd, and camera built in.

    runs regular version os x.

    airport express increases the coverage area.



    dont think iPod. think access. think live communication device.
  • Reply 88 of 104
    Quote:

    I really would want a mini mini PowerBook/Tablet type device. A small 8 to 10 inch screen...



    They make laptops with 10 inch screens already, and im not sure about laptops with 8 inchers, but 8-10 inches is far from what I consider portable.



    *IF* they choose to do something like this it should have no larger than a 5 inch screen. It needs to be able to fit into a pocket easily or else it is pointless.
  • Reply 89 of 104
    othelloothello Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by niji

    in yr pref panel there is network. open it up and look at the iPv6 address.

    this will be yr fone number within two years, after wi-fi is invested in by everybody, everywhere.

    the device is a small, wi-fi connected screen with colour lcd, and camera built in.

    runs regular version os x.

    airport express increases the coverage area.



    dont think iPod. think access. think live communication device.




    is this your guess or something else?
  • Reply 90 of 104
    jaredjared Posts: 639member
    Well just to add a little more fruit to the mix, Volt, a contracting agency that hires people to work for Apple in various teams has a new position available....



    Quote:

    Location:

    __Cupertino, CA





    Description:

    __Functional testing, test case authoring and refinement, bug reporting and isolation on various platforms (Various versions of Mac OS X). Must have Mac testing experience and posses excellent written and verbal communication, along with previous software application testing experience.



    I called up the contracting manager that works for the Apple accounts and asked him about the position. He asked me if I have any PDA experience or something like that. Unfortently I do not but, this confirms that something in fact is coming from Apple. Though the job description does not pin point it specifically it does seem to hint at a Mac OS X lite.....
  • Reply 91 of 104
    othelloothello Posts: 1,054member
    good catch!
  • Reply 92 of 104
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jared

    Well just to add a little more fruit to the mix, Volt, a contracting agency that hires people to work for Apple in various teams has a new position available....







    I called up the contracting manager that works for the Apple accounts and asked him about the position. He asked me if I have any PDA experience or something like that. Unfortently I do not but, this confirms that something in fact is coming from Apple. Though the job description does not pin point it specifically it does seem to hint at a Mac OS X lite.....




    hmmm, of course something like this could mean ISYNC stuff, or maybe an apple version of hotsync.
  • Reply 93 of 104
    jaredjared Posts: 639member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by The General

    hmmm, of course something like this could mean ISYNC stuff, or maybe an apple version of hotsync.



    Then both the description and the contract manager would mention just that. At least with iSync and they would also mention the kind of framework for that kind of software. They are not quiet about specifically what they need (just go to the Apple job website and you will see what I mean) unless it is going to be something major and there are very little details here.....
  • Reply 94 of 104
    carniphagecarniphage Posts: 1,984member
    PDAs... get over them.



    This is not a dead market - it's a market that barely existed in the first place. Real people have no reason to carry around yet another bulky pocket device with all of the maintenance and tamagotchi like attention they require. Don't get me wrong - I love gadgets, but what the heck does one *do* with a PDA for goodness sake.



    Yes, I know that they are attractive gadgets which have a potent technological fetish value - but to the typical person, a phone is the one and only must-have pocket device.



    Need a diary? - use your phone

    Need contact info? - use your phone

    Need crappy Java games? - how tedious. Well try your phone. or a Gameboy!

    Need mobile intenet and email? - well try a smartphone.

    Need tiny movies to watch? - It sounds like you really need a P900 - it even has a stylus!

    Need to take slow handwritten notes in meetings? - try paper - really!

    Need music. i have just the thing...

    Need a fully featured PC the size of a business card? I really really doubt it.



    Apple should focus on real needs - not silly Startrek bullshit.



    Carni
  • Reply 95 of 104
    hookhook Posts: 42member
    The PDA as it stands now is primarly a business tool. Thats not to say that that is how it is always used. Although it is also purchased by techno fetish/gadget crowd, its real purpose and usefullness is business related.



    On a professional level, the ability to syncronize your office workstation and home computer, as well as instant access on the street, is more valuable than you might think. Not just phone numbers and meeting times. Whether its used for marketing, project management, or just to figure out the address of your next meeting. Add on to this the potential to carry and exchange files (not just tiny little word documents either). This last bit already exists in various forms, including the ipod, but the ipod is clearly more of a consumer item than a professional tool. As far as the other stuff, the majority of the "smart" phones out there suffer from poorly written software, and/or a lack of integration with the mac.



    Apple would like nothing more than to come up with a device that addresses business needs in the same way that the ipod appealed to the gadget conscious consumer. If they were to go in this PDA direction my guess is that it would be geared more towards the professional consumer. Although some of the possiblities that people have already mentioned point to more of a digital hub extension, Apple could really use a serious business tool for those that need it.
  • Reply 96 of 104
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jared

    Then both the description and the contract manager would mention just that. At least with iSync and they would also mention the kind of framework for that kind of software. They are not quiet about specifically what they need (just go to the Apple job website and you will see what I mean) unless it is going to be something major and there are very little details here.....



    I don't buy it. asking if you have pda experience, I think is very basic. that COULD mean anything, I say software, others say it must mean hardware..
  • Reply 97 of 104
    jaredjared Posts: 639member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by The General

    I don't buy it. asking if you have pda experience, I think is very basic. that COULD mean anything, I say software, others say it must mean hardware..



    Go to any of the jobs on the Apple job site and find me a position listed that has very general/vague information and maybe I will believe that. All of the ones I have come accross mention very specific information on what framework and programming language they require.



    The fact that both an Apple employee and the manager in charge of the Apple accounts mention PDA. I have spoken to this manager a number of times and he would tell me I need PDA software experience. But he made no mention of software even though I told him I have very good knowledge of all variations of Mac OS X and Apple software.
  • Reply 98 of 104
    carniphagecarniphage Posts: 1,984member
    This is an admittedly left-field suggestion: But go with me..



    Apple sees its strength in innovation. Both in introducing new products - and redesigning existing ones.



    Which massively commonplace technology with more than a billion units out there, desperately needs updating? It has a terrible user interface. Pretty much everyone owns several and although it would benefit from contact syncronization and internet awareness - it has not really happened.



    I give you (Ta Da) the phone. Not the cellphone. But the desk phone. The home phone. The study phone. The big office phone with the 100 silly presets you have to enter by hand.



    Imagine the phone re-engineered with PDA like savvy. BT syncing with contact info. Display with virual rolodex. iPodeque user interface. Call by address or Call by IM. Texting, Email delivery in homes with RendezVous. Free VoIP calls.



    Want one? Want one enough to pay $150



    It is quite quite doable by a company like Apple.



    Someone should do this. It is the 21st century, should we really have to manually type in the IP number of the other phone to make a call?



    Carni
  • Reply 99 of 104
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Jared

    Go to any of the jobs on the Apple job site and find me a position listed that has very general/vague information and maybe I will believe that. All of the ones I have come accross mention very specific information on what framework and programming language they require.



    The fact that both an Apple employee and the manager in charge of the Apple accounts mention PDA. I have spoken to this manager a number of times and he would tell me I need PDA software experience. But he made no mention of software even though I told him I have very good knowledge of all variations of Mac OS X and Apple software.




    you can beleive what you want to beleive... but did apple announce "seeking experience with IPOD" when they were hiring for ipod support? NO. them seeking someone with PDA experience can mean lots of things, why dont you apply for the job then just to see if you can get more info. seems you are alone here thinking this 'tidbit' points to pda experience.. why dont they mention a specific type of pda? palm? visor? windows..? PDA is TOO vague..
  • Reply 100 of 104
    costiquecostique Posts: 1,084member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Carniphage

    Not the cellphone. But the desk phone. The home phone. The study phone. The big office phone with the 100 silly presets you have to enter by hand.



    Imagine the phone re-engineered with PDA like savvy. BT syncing with contact info. Display with virual rolodex. iPodeque user interface. Call by address or Call by IM. Texting, Email delivery in homes with RendezVous. Free VoIP calls.




    I've been thinking about it for a few years. It began (in my head) as a simple answering system and ended as an ultimate home secretary. It is a crazy idea, but seeing how tightly it might get integrated into a 'smart house' or 'digital lifestyle', I think it ought to have its customers.
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