gotcha...but still, it wouldnt be so much more involved (other than the download size) than aac's. right? what would stop apple from doing this on a larger scale with movie content?
Costs. Downloading movies is unlikely to be as popular as music yet the file size is 100x greater. With the local Blockbusters renting "all you can eat" DVDs for $25 a month and Cable offering their own VoD systems there really isn't a viable market for Apple to make money.
Costs. Downloading movies is unlikely to be as popular as music yet the file size is 100x greater. With the local Blockbusters renting "all you can eat" DVDs for $25 a month and Cable offering their own VoD systems there really isn't a viable market for Apple to make money.
They would likely use a future standard based on MPEG-4/H.264 but the problem would be download speeds. Even with broadband it would take all day to get a movie (depending on quality) and that is not very marketable. I just don't see Apple doing this.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to then I'm sorry to say this project is dead. It was killed off last year very close to it's release. That was not the name of the device though.
YES "Q71" was dead. But,
You mean "Q79" is Dead ?
I don't think so...
And downloading 100MB with VDSL is not taking that long.
To earthend at AppleForum:
Thank you for posting and I wish to put my name in the your post. Please.
great link Kormac, also do you have any comments on AppleInsider report of the Pizza Box design of the new iMac, whice is preety much opposite of the cube you described
also when Apple created the new iPod division, i preety much guessed that Division is actually responsible for all Digital Hub devices and not just the iPod, is that the case and all the devices you described fall under the iPod divion responsibility or are are they under the Mac diviosn?
- iProjector with WiFi. ( Name may be different. )
There is more in the future for CES but it might be announce at WWDC. ( In my opinion, he will wait for CES )
By the way, check with who will be keynote for CES ? ( Officially, it was not decided. )
The more thing is
* Name can be changed
- iStation ( aka iBox )
- iPAD ( aka i**** v2 )
- And 4th generation iPod with Color dispaly by September.
Well. Are you guys are satisfied ?
Very good summary! Thank you, Kormac. It sound like WWDC will be very interesting. As I said before, we will need more patience... to wait for even more fun at CES and other events later in the year. But that's OK by me.
great link Kormac, also do you have any comments on AppleInsider report of the Pizza Box design of the new iMac, whice is preety much opposite of the cube you described
Good link indeed, Kormac. Just like Odedh, I would be interested in anything you have to say about the upcoming iMac G5. Unless Apple introduces a headless iMac, i.e. a $1000 mini-G5, the 12-inch PowerBook G4 is still my first choice. But I will wait until June 28/29 to place my order.
Apple on Wednesday announced that the H.264/Advanced Video Codec (AVC) will be incorporated in its QuickTime software in an upcoming release next year. The video technology has been ratified by the DVD Forum for use in the High Definition (HD) DVD format; it was jointly developed by the Motion Picture Expert's Group (MPEG) and the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), and has been ratified into the MPEG-4 specification as well.
..snip..
Apple senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller said that Apple is supporting the H.264 specification because of the codec's quality and its basis on open standards. "QuickTime 6 has already topped 250 million downloads, making it one of the most successful media standards ever, and we will be adding support for H.264 to QuickTime next year," he said.
Next year? Sounds like things might not be as far along as far as QT goes... Unless QT7 beta hits at WWDC followed by a final release in 2005.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to then I'm sorry to say this project is dead. It was killed off last year very close to it's release. That was not the name of the device though.
Since it is officially killed, is the NDA still on? At least, can we know what is it? A PDA?
QT7, Tiger, etc. Probably won't be out until January, no? Sounds like when the codec would be released. So perhaps it is all part of the same package.
Boy, Kormac, you have certainly said a mouthful.
I like the speculation about the direction, and it all seems reasonable. The question I have for the folks here, (more technically adept than I) is about "i**** v2."
Could that be basically NOT a pda, NOT a tablet computer, but say, a portable ("ink"-capable) interface for your base mac that is airport ready? Using either QT or the new ARA software to access your mac? Basically a dumb-gui-terminal? One might use this to, say, change your playlist that is streaming to your stereo, change your home movie playing off your mac, etc. The putative projector that k mentions could perhaps function as an add-on. though a $1500 projector is pretty steep. (I also don't know if this could have to do with the strange cryptonymic d-n-a letters that Kormac bandied about for a while).
It's just a thought, but it sounds like AirPort Extreme, and ARA could go nicely together as two cornerstones of this kind of a project.
.....and I think just about all of us would get one.
Doesn't the press release about the new codec actually make sense. I mean WWDC is going to preview Tiger. I assumed the discussions about QT7 being "released" at WWDC really just meant previewed. I would expect it to be part of Tiger. Now whether that pushes Kormac's predictions to January, I would like to know.
Agreed. QT7 will be included with Tiger, we'll get a preview at WWDC.
From what I'm hearing, QT7 will be such a *major* overhaul of QT that the OS dependencies have changed substantially, and it'll be much easier to just ship it with a 10.4 requirement than to retrofit it to 10.3.x.
Which of course is certainly to cause the usual round of whining and bitching from folks not realizing that *gasp* you have to pay for new major functionality. "But whyyyy can't they port QT7 to 10.1.... whhhhyyyyyyyy?" But that's another thread.
Preview of QT7 and 10.4 at WWDC, to be co-released at a later date. Would be nice to be pre-Xmas to push holiday sales of new machines, but Jan is as good a guess as any due to Macworld.
Also, it's more than possible that QT7 is in fact released at WWDC, but that H.264 is rolled into an update in Jan. It's not like QT7 will be an unchanging brick of code for 18-24 months after being released.
Also, it's more than possible that QT7 is in fact released at WWDC, but that H.264 is rolled into an update in Jan. It's not like QT7 will be an unchanging brick of code for 18-24 months after being released.
True. I suspect, however, that what will be released at WWDC will be (ta-dah!) a developer kit only*, with the enduser client package coming with 10.4. That gives the developers a few months to whip up some amazing new toys for us, and have them ready to roll when the rest of us get the full QT7 package a few months later.
*Ie, beta, buggy, and not oriented towards a clean *user* experience, but just to get info into the hands of developers.
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Originally posted by macfly
gotcha...but still, it wouldnt be so much more involved (other than the download size) than aac's. right? what would stop apple from doing this on a larger scale with movie content?
Costs. Downloading movies is unlikely to be as popular as music yet the file size is 100x greater. With the local Blockbusters renting "all you can eat" DVDs for $25 a month and Cable offering their own VoD systems there really isn't a viable market for Apple to make money.
Originally posted by hmurchison
Costs. Downloading movies is unlikely to be as popular as music yet the file size is 100x greater. With the local Blockbusters renting "all you can eat" DVDs for $25 a month and Cable offering their own VoD systems there really isn't a viable market for Apple to make money.
They would likely use a future standard based on MPEG-4/H.264 but the problem would be download speeds. Even with broadband it would take all day to get a movie (depending on quality) and that is not very marketable. I just don't see Apple doing this.
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to then I'm sorry to say this project is dead. It was killed off last year very close to it's release. That was not the name of the device though.
YES "Q71" was dead. But,
You mean "Q79" is Dead ?
I don't think so...
And downloading 100MB with VDSL is not taking that long.
To earthend at AppleForum:
Thank you for posting and I wish to put my name in the your post. Please.
And it's not new device but new service.
The Secret Weapon Inside iTunes
also when Apple created the new iPod division, i preety much guessed that Division is actually responsible for all Digital Hub devices and not just the iPod, is that the case and all the devices you described fall under the iPod divion responsibility or are are they under the Mac diviosn?
it seems to me apple has a decision to make about when to introduce stuff (and i'm assuming that everything you've said kormac is waiting to go).
do they introduce gradually or just drop it all in one go and say 'here it all is'.
apple tends to drip feed us, but if they are going to really take over the world here they need to just go for it!
Originally posted by macfly
kormac, do u know anything about the technology to be used un the iprojector? is it lcd? dlp?laser?
Hot air
Originally posted by kormac77
Here is what will be announced.
- Preview of Tiger: OS X 10.4
- iMac G5.
- New service to support Consumer Electronics.
- 20, 23, 30 inch Monitor with HDTV capability.
- iProjector with WiFi. ( Name may be different. )
There is more in the future for CES but it might be announce at WWDC. ( In my opinion, he will wait for CES )
By the way, check with who will be keynote for CES ?
The more thing is
* Name can be changed
- iStation ( aka iBox )
- iPAD ( aka i**** v2 )
- And 4th generation iPod with Color dispaly by September.
Well. Are you guys are satisfied ?
Very good summary! Thank you, Kormac. It sound like WWDC will be very interesting. As I said before, we will need more patience... to wait for even more fun at CES and other events later in the year. But that's OK by me.
Patience is a virtue.
Escher
Originally posted by Odedh
great link Kormac, also do you have any comments on AppleInsider report of the Pizza Box design of the new iMac, whice is preety much opposite of the cube you described
Good link indeed, Kormac. Just like Odedh, I would be interested in anything you have to say about the upcoming iMac G5. Unless Apple introduces a headless iMac, i.e. a $1000 mini-G5, the 12-inch PowerBook G4 is still my first choice. But I will wait until June 28/29 to place my order.
Escher
Interesting news today
Apple on Wednesday announced that the H.264/Advanced Video Codec (AVC) will be incorporated in its QuickTime software in an upcoming release next year. The video technology has been ratified by the DVD Forum for use in the High Definition (HD) DVD format; it was jointly developed by the Motion Picture Expert's Group (MPEG) and the International Telecommunication Union (ITU), and has been ratified into the MPEG-4 specification as well.
..snip..
Apple senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller said that Apple is supporting the H.264 specification because of the codec's quality and its basis on open standards. "QuickTime 6 has already topped 250 million downloads, making it one of the most successful media standards ever, and we will be adding support for H.264 to QuickTime next year," he said.
Next year? Sounds like things might not be as far along as far as QT goes... Unless QT7 beta hits at WWDC followed by a final release in 2005.
Dave
Originally posted by TWinbrook46636
If you are referring to what I think you are referring to then I'm sorry to say this project is dead. It was killed off last year very close to it's release. That was not the name of the device though.
Since it is officially killed, is the NDA still on? At least, can we know what is it? A PDA?
Boy, Kormac, you have certainly said a mouthful.
I like the speculation about the direction, and it all seems reasonable. The question I have for the folks here, (more technically adept than I) is about "i**** v2."
Could that be basically NOT a pda, NOT a tablet computer, but say, a portable ("ink"-capable) interface for your base mac that is airport ready? Using either QT or the new ARA software to access your mac? Basically a dumb-gui-terminal? One might use this to, say, change your playlist that is streaming to your stereo, change your home movie playing off your mac, etc. The putative projector that k mentions could perhaps function as an add-on. though a $1500 projector is pretty steep. (I also don't know if this could have to do with the strange cryptonymic d-n-a letters that Kormac bandied about for a while).
It's just a thought, but it sounds like AirPort Extreme, and ARA could go nicely together as two cornerstones of this kind of a project.
.....and I think just about all of us would get one.
Hope Springs Eternal,
Mandricard
AppleOutsider
From what I'm hearing, QT7 will be such a *major* overhaul of QT that the OS dependencies have changed substantially, and it'll be much easier to just ship it with a 10.4 requirement than to retrofit it to 10.3.x.
Which of course is certainly to cause the usual round of whining and bitching from folks not realizing that *gasp* you have to pay for new major functionality. "But whyyyy can't they port QT7 to 10.1.... whhhhyyyyyyyy?" But that's another thread.
Preview of QT7 and 10.4 at WWDC, to be co-released at a later date. Would be nice to be pre-Xmas to push holiday sales of new machines, but Jan is as good a guess as any due to Macworld.
Originally posted by concentricity
Also, it's more than possible that QT7 is in fact released at WWDC, but that H.264 is rolled into an update in Jan. It's not like QT7 will be an unchanging brick of code for 18-24 months after being released.
True. I suspect, however, that what will be released at WWDC will be (ta-dah!) a developer kit only*, with the enduser client package coming with 10.4. That gives the developers a few months to whip up some amazing new toys for us, and have them ready to roll when the rest of us get the full QT7 package a few months later.
*Ie, beta, buggy, and not oriented towards a clean *user* experience, but just to get info into the hands of developers.