steve wozniak on MWSF - could it be a hint to new HW?

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after years off of the presentation floors steve wozniak will be on the coming MWSF and talking about MacOS X... what makes me wonder what is the real reason for him to come back and talk to the apple-"masses" ...? could it be a sign that he's amazed about the new software and even more: hardware? ...



have a look:<a href="http://www.macworldexpo.com/macworld2003/V33/index.cvn?ID=10206"; target="_blank">woz</a>



[ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: Krassy ]</p>
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  • Reply 1 of 55
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Apple must be switching back to classic. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 2 of 55
    [quote]Originally posted by Matsu:

    <strong>Apple must be switching back to classic. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    or even back on the woz-made apple I or II?
  • Reply 3 of 55
    Woz for CEO!!!!!!!!!!! Get rid of the other Steve
  • Reply 3 of 55
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    From <a href="http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/2002_09_01_archive.htm"; target="_blank">CARS</a>:

    [quote]Woz Finally Gets Around To Installing OS 9.



    As Mac users everywhere begin to enjoy the recently released Jaguar update to Mac OS X, sources close to Steve Wozniak indicate the Apple co-founder has finally broken down and installed OS 9.



    "I figured it was probably safe to try it out now," Wozniak said.



    "I see these kids rush out and install every new update before all the bugs are worked out, and they pay the price. Or I assume they do. But, anyway, what's the rush? Where's the fire?"



    Blowing dust off the unopened copy of OS 9 Wozniak bought in 1999, Wozniak carefully peeled the cellophane wrapping off the box and opened it.



    "Ohhh," Wozniak moaned. "No manual? When did they stop putting a manual in?"



    Clicking through the install process, Wozniak said "I hear Sherlock 2 is really neat. And logging in via voice print. That's got to be cool. But I think Multiple Users is probably going to be the most useful feature for me."



    Asked if he had used OS X, Wozniak said "Oh, no, no, no, no. I know there are lots of wild stories about things [Apple CEO] Steve [Jobs] and I did in the '70s, but I'm not like that anymore. No, slow and steady wins the race!"



    Jobs himself admits to a certain amount of frustration with Wozniak.



    "I've sent him several complimentary copies of OS X, but I don't think he's opened any of them," Jobs said. "I don't understand it - everyone else is trying it out."



    "Oh, sure," Wozniak replied. "And I suppose if everyone else jumped off a bridge I should do that too?"<hr></blockquote>

    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 5 of 55
    Either way its a great sign. Woz has a large following and he has some new digital device he has been working on. It's not a PDA but some sort of communications device. Who knows.....
  • Reply 6 of 55
    Woz hates Mac OS X
  • Reply 7 of 55
    [quote]Originally posted by Stagflation Steve:

    <strong>Woz hates Mac OS X</strong><hr></blockquote>



    He said he hates it?
  • Reply 8 of 55
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    [quote]Originally posted by trailmaster308:

    <strong>



    He said he hates it?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    He didn't say that he "hates" it, that is a very strong word. He has said that so far he doesn't use it due to the major shift from the way the Mac has worked for so many years. In my opinion...he just doesn't like change.
  • Reply 9 of 55
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    I've a hunch that Woz will pretty much like Jaguar once he gives it some time, and gets how it ticks. One could say it's truer to the original Mac than OS 9.



    'sides, at MWSF we'll be talking about Panther, right?



    [ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: Hobbes ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 55
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    What I've heard him say on techtv is that all of the OS's are getting too complicated, period. Thinks they should be more intuitive in their operation.
  • Reply 11 of 55
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    Yeah, you'd think he'd appreciate OS X's attempt to simplify a lot of different elements in the OS. It's definitely simpler (for both good and bad) than OS 9, at least on the surface.
  • Reply 12 of 55
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Woz commented that he didn't think OS X had the polish of OS 9 - all the little thoughtful touches that you don't even notice until you happen to need them. And that's fair. Those have to accrete over time, and Mac OS had a lot of time to get to version 9. OS X still has a couple of jagged bits sticking out here and there. It's young.



    I believe the Mac OS programmers are now in the OS X development team, so we should see more little niceties - nothing for Steve to trumpet at a MacWorld, just little thoughtful things - in subsequent revisions of the OS.



    So MWSF will be about Panther, eh? Interesting.
  • Reply 13 of 55
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    [quote]Originally posted by Amorph:

    <strong>I believe the Mac OS programmers are now in the OS X development team, so we should see more little niceties - nothing for Steve to trumpet at a MacWorld, just little thoughtful things - in subsequent revisions of the OS.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's true. Jaguar was the turning point for me, and partly because many of those niceties came back. It's a pleasure to use an OS so devoted to little touches.



    It definitely *is* still rough in a lot of places, though. Here's looking to more, and soon.



    [quote]<strong>

    So MWSF will be about Panther, eh? Interesting. </strong><hr></blockquote>





    Does seem like a couple of threads are coming together. Apple knows it has to do something big for education. A few weeks ago a screenshot of a Library program (dev. name iBrary) surfaces, complete with polished app icon, debug code windows, and MIP'd windows lined up in a row at the bottom of the screen (not before seen). Steve has announced publically they're shopping for new natural voice software. Microsoft pushing the xDoc format. The Maine school iBook program (after some early rough patches) is shaping up to be a success. Meanwhile, the cost of textbooks is extraordinary and Apple both needs and wants education back and sees an opening for an advance in technology.



    And now Woz, who's spent most of his post-Apple time involved in education, is coming to speak...



    Interestin'.



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  • Reply 14 of 55
    forgive the obvious dot-connecting that seems to have been missed so far...



    but do you think the fact that the "Two Steves", co-founders of Apple

    (Mike Markkula might appear in the crowd)

    plan a get together on stage during the _Twenty-Fifth Anniversary of Apple_ could have anything to do with celebratory hardware popping out of a cake?



    perhaps to announce a "Silver Spartacus" (Twentieth Anniversary Mac) or similar limited edition Mac marking the first quarter century of innovation from the company that launched the personal computer revolution (and still leads).



    HELLO, major historical milestone as an extremely public opportunity to innovate again... now if only we could find a pair of guys named Steve who could pull such a jubilee off, and press clued to that calendar to cover it.



    i can't believe nobody's sussed this out yet,

    it's practically scripted... just stand on the tape and smile at the camera on cue



    MWSF: part original apple reunion, part loyalty reward (got to be some 25-year staffers), part what's next in apple's second quarter century



    Hardware Prediction:

    Special Silver-Anodized, PPC-970 based, 30" HD Widescreen Cinema Display,

    25th Anniversary Macintosh will debut to global awe



    Limited to 5000 units. Signed by both Steves.

    &gt;$10k?



    Billed as "more powerful that the cumulative chips of all previous Apples combined!"

    (bake-off with Apple 1 Woz brings on-stage)



    saving up already.



    [ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: curiousuburb ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 55
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    [quote]Originally posted by curiousuburb:

    <strong>Hardware Prediction:

    Special Silver-Anodized, PPC-970 based, 30" HD Widescreen Cinema Display,

    25th Anniversary Macintosh will debut to global awe



    Limited to 5000 units. Signed by both Steves.

    &gt;$10k?



    Billed as "more powerful that the cumulative chips of all previous Apples combined!"

    (bake-off with Apple 1 Woz brings on-stage)



    saving up already.



    [ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: curiousuburb ]</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Damn I hope not. The 970 is Apple's saviour and future, they don't need to put it in an elitist category. They are on a current roll with much better pricing so i hope then trend continues as speed and price are the major arguements against macs.
  • Reply 16 of 55
    we'll still get 970-based macs in the regular product cycle towards the end of the year



    i'm strictly talking about a unique 25th Anniversary Mac (maybe badged 1977-2003)

    as a collectible drool-its-so-cool machine



    five years back, the Spartacus a.k.a. 20th Anniversary Mac (TAM) was a revolutionary design with a less powerful 603e chip, LCD, and a vertical mount $4k Bang&Olafsen Stereo all bundled together. limited run of under 10,000 units that started over $10,000 and dropped.



    IIRC, Spartacus wasn't the most powerful CPU, but because it was limited edition and elegant, it had bonus cachet.



    given that Apple already owns the mantle of coolest looking computers on the planet, the 25th Anniversary Mac needs more than just continuation of functional form to stand apart... a technological peek ahead to what regular humans will have access to in the future is EXACTLY the metaphor Apple has always brought, so why not innovate early on this too.



    imagine the copy



    "Humans went to the moon with 8K of memory, and it took room sized computers and NASA funds. Less than a decade later, Apple started the revolution in home computing by putting equivalent power onto a single circuit board that fit into a pizza box and household budget. ~ woz triumphantly waves early proof of his genius ~



    Now, you can be one of the first to access Terabytes and Gigaflops of multi-processing power (previously reserved for Rocket Scientists) with the Silver Cider Mac. Join the continuing revolution, think different."

    ~ jobs triumphantly blows out candles and the cake shatters to reveal the silver stunner ~



    everybody will imitate Apple's innovation again, and by the end of '03, not only will 970's surface in the regular Apple line (at the high end), but PeeCee clones attempting to rip off the style of the 25th Anniversary box will abound. but only the first x thousand will bear etched Steve signatures and early 970 engines.



    early adopters deserve some kind of perk, no?
  • Reply 17 of 55
    [quote]Originally posted by curiousuburb:

    <strong>

    i'm strictly talking about a unique 25th Anniversary Mac (maybe badged 1977-2003)

    </strong><hr></blockquote>





    Maybe my math is bad, but wouldn't that be 26 years?
  • Reply 18 of 55
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    You can read about how woz feels about OS X here.



    <a href="http://www.woz.org/"; target="_blank">http://www.woz.org/</a>;



    [ 11-21-2002: Message edited by: Scott ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 55
    [quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:

    <strong>





    Maybe my math is bad, but wouldn't that be 26 years?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    yes, but you're zero years old for your first year until you complete a solar cycle.



    it will be the "twenty sixth year of life", but the Mac will be 25 (and change) during '03
  • Reply 20 of 55
    Say, Could our 25th Year Mac be the return of the cube design? or maybe a sphere? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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