**MWSF 2002**

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  • Reply 21 of 56
    If no one has noticed, OS X 10.1.1 is already out. Check you software update



    Edit:

    Quick note [quote] The 7460 I believe is .13 SOI and seems like it would be more geared to the Powerbook with its low heat dissipation. It should clock at 1-1.333 GHz and I believe it does support DDR RAM. <hr></blockquote>



    Well, I'd just like to point out here that DDR is completely independant of the CPU. you can take a P4 and stick it in different motherboards which support SDRAM, RDRAM, or DDR. The CPU doesn't care.



    I presume Apple designes their own motherboards, so DDR support has nothing to do with Motorola, or which chip type is used.

    Support DDR for the 68030!!! :cool:



    [ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: KD5MDK ]</p>
  • Reply 22 of 56
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    PowerMac



    Processor: 7460 &lt;----Trying not to put too much hope on G5



    Speed: 933Mhz, 1Ghz, 1.33Ghz, Dual 933



    RAM type / Bus: DDR-RAM, 233Mhz



    RAM installed: 128/128/ 256/ 256 &lt;-------Apple, as usual, very cheap on RAM



    Optical Drive: Combo / Combo / SuperDrive / SuperDrive



    Video : 4X AGP with the same old **** GeForce 2MX across the board (with the GeForce 3 again be option but at lower cost)



    Case: Same as QS (New one will be for G5)



    Price: Don't want to guess





    iMac ---- Definitely will be changed



    Processor: New IBM processor (Isn't called Sahara?)



    Speed: 600Mhz, 800Mhz, 900Mhz, 1Ghz



    RAM type / Bus: SD-RAM / 133 Mhz



    RAM installed: 64/128/128/ 128 &lt;------- Again.....Apple, as usual, very cheap on RAM



    Optical Drive: CD-ROM / CD-RW/ CD-RW / Combo



    Video: ATi Radeon 16MB VRAM



    Case: Old case and same CRT for the low end. New case with 14" LCD for the others



    Price: 799 / 999 / 1299 / 1499





    TiBook

    No change



    iBook

    No change





    On the software side......



    OSX 10.2

    OS 9.3

    Adobe demostrates and announces Photoshop 7!
  • Reply 23 of 56
    Leonis, you are the eternal pessimist man! Buck up and get yourself one of those new G5s at MWSF!
  • Reply 24 of 56
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,016member
    My official prediction:



    PowerMac G5 1.2, 1.4, 1.6 (why not...I'll leap)



    LCD iMac G4



    iBook with colors



    iPhoto



    TiBook DVD/CD-RW Combo Drive





    I'll bet on this....but won't hold my breath either.
  • Reply 25 of 56
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Steve takes the stage, drinks water.



    Much time spent going over the past "really, really great" year. Digital Hub strategy reiterated at length, pausing to admire the iPod, which Apple is "really excited" about, and iTunes 2, which has been a smash hit.



    This segues into Mac OS X. 10.2 is announced, and gone over at length. It's available February. It will appear in release form at MWTY, although that's not said. Steve talks about how many apps are appearing, which cues the Death March of the Company Presidents. Adobe demos a bunch of apps, including Photoshop 7, to roars of appreciation. A slew of music apps appear. FCP 2 is announced for OS X, shipping in "spring." The OS X adoption clock is set to 9, not 12.



    Steve is "really pleased" with the Apple Stores, and the schedule for the first part of next year is announced, along with some locations.



    That leads to what the Stores are selling: Steve brings up the four product grid, and summarizes the current offerings. The notebook sales will be lustrous; the desktop sales will be skimmed over. The new PowerMacs are rolled out; 1GHz 7450s, and G5s at 1.2 and 1.4GHz. The 7450 model is available now. The G5s, in February. Much hay is made of the "GHz," and Jon Rubinstein is not dragged out to explain the "Gigahertz myth."



    Bakeoff. Phil Schiller. Photoshop (in OS 9). G5 hands P4 its head. The crowd goes wild.



    Oh, and one more thing.



    An all-new iMac. G4. Radeon. 15" CRT.
  • Reply 26 of 56
    No Photoshop bake-off. I want SPEC. What is the PC world gonna do about that? You got it, sh!t their pants.
  • Reply 27 of 56
    800Mhz (duel optional)/duel 1Ghz/1.3 Ghz "Apollo" G4's {desktop, laptops later (Febuary)} $1,300 ($1,700)/$2,400/$3,000 all combo(CD-RW/DVD-ROM) or Superdrives

    LCD iMac's (iBook's) 600Mhz/800Mhz/1Ghz

    $600/$900/$1,200 lowest one with just CD-Rom,next with Combo Drive, top with Superdrive

    Combo (maybe Superdrive) in Ti books



    Photoshop and FCP carbonised OS X 10.1.4 OS 9.3



    G5's between March and August (probably late March, early June, mid July or late August)



    [ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Ifok5 ]</p>
  • Reply 28 of 56
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>Leonis, you are the eternal pessimist man! Buck up and get yourself one of those new G5s at MWSF! </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well...being an pessimistic a$$ usually makes me feel better when there's no suprise coming out



    [ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: Leonis ]</p>
  • Reply 29 of 56
    cooopcooop Posts: 390member
    I too will predict G5s at MWSF. However, I doubt we'll see anything above 1.2/1.4 GHz. The iMac will finally get a case change and a flat-panel screen with a G4 (and Superdrive?) available on the high-end. (Superdrives should be standard on the PowerMacs by Jan.) Finally, I also predict the announcement of an additional iDevice, though I know not what it could be. I still dream my foolish dreams for a settop box though.
  • Reply 30 of 56
    You think the Superdrive will be standard on the low-end? Hmm......somehow I'm not sure but that's good news if it is because I plan on getting a low-end G5.
  • Reply 31 of 56
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    The PC world would laugh its head off if we used SPEC to shoot ourselves in the foot.
  • Reply 32 of 56
    G5 and LCD iMac won't be in the same keynote, it's just not going to happen.....
  • Reply 33 of 56
    in january i'm guessing we'll see



    1.33ghz G4 ($1600)

    2x 1ghz G4 ($2,000)

    1.2ghz G5 ($2,200) (512ram, radeon 8500, superdrive)

    1.6ghz G5 ($2,500) (1gb ram, nvidia gf 3 ti500, superdrive)



    I like the idea off mosr of a July speed bump for the G5's, I'd guess to 2ghz and a case redesign for the quicksilver enclosure.



    i dont know enough about the componets of the motherboard(s) to make a guess, but thats the mhz im guessing on.



    [Edit: btw i orignally registered in 99, would a Mod be able to check the names Capn-Pyro or Capn_Pyro? i actually originally registered about 2-3 months prior of September '99 (when i got my G4 450)]



    [ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: CapnPyro ]</p>
  • Reply 34 of 56
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    [quote]Originally posted by Amorph:

    <strong>Steve takes the stage, drinks water.



    Much time spent going over the past "really, really great" year. Digital Hub strategy reiterated at length, pausing to admire the iPod, which Apple is "really excited" about, and iTunes 2, which has been a smash hit.



    This segues into Mac OS X. 10.2 is announced, and gone over at length. It's available February. It will appear in release form at MWTY, although that's not said. Steve talks about how many apps are appearing, which cues the Death March of the Company Presidents. Adobe demos a bunch of apps, including Photoshop 7, to roars of appreciation. A slew of music apps appear. FCP 2 is announced for OS X, shipping in "spring." The OS X adoption clock is set to 9, not 12.



    Steve is "really pleased" with the Apple Stores, and the schedule for the first part of next year is announced, along with some locations.



    That leads to what the Stores are selling: Steve brings up the four product grid, and summarizes the current offerings. The notebook sales will be lustrous; the desktop sales will be skimmed over. The new PowerMacs are rolled out; 1GHz 7450s, and G5s at 1.2 and 1.4GHz. The 7450 model is available now. The G5s, in February. Much hay is made of the "GHz," and Jon Rubinstein is not dragged out to explain the "Gigahertz myth."



    Bakeoff. Phil Schiller. Photoshop (in OS 9). G5 hands P4 its head. The crowd goes wild.



    Oh, and one more thing.



    An all-new iMac. G4. Radeon. 15" CRT. </strong><hr></blockquote>





    I like that!

    <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
  • Reply 35 of 56
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    The G5 is on the way for sure, but when, let's hope it will soon appear. The 7460 basically have the same design than the 7450 but is based upon 0,13 micron process.

    Motorola and AMD work together on the design process. The new athlon is based upon 0,13 micron, why not Motorola ?



    The problem of the G5 is that he is based upon a entirely new design far more complicated than the 7450 : is one year sufficiant to make such an improvement ?(remember that the G4 has been stuck at 500 mhz for two years ...) : thats the question.



    So dispite other threads i will make only one prediction or too : the GHZ wall will be broken by apple in junuary and the next I mac will have G4 chip. The next Power mac will have an improved RAM technology.

    The G3 will be still use for a moment in the I book line.
  • Reply 36 of 56
    From MWSF this year till today the fastest G4 speed has increased by 133MHz (from 733 to 867), and you are hoping for a G5 at 1.6 GHz all of a sudden? give me a break!



    Really, I do trust in Steve and Apple and I really wish for a 1.6 GHz mac in a few months... but I feel it is not going to happen.
  • Reply 37 of 56
    Well percentage wise the jummp from 500 MHz to 733 MHz top speed was 46.6%. this was the case between MWNY 2000 and MWSF 2001. So if we saw a percentage wise increase like that it would 867 to 1271.022, so if we get a big boost 1.2 and 1.4 GHz isnt too unlikely. Plus, Jobs did say we'd begin to close the MHz gap.....when was he planning on it?
  • Reply 38 of 56
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote] Mac ---- Definitely will be changed



    Processor: New IBM processor (Isn't called Sahara?)



    Speed: 600Mhz, 800Mhz, 900Mhz, 1Ghz



    RAM type / Bus: SD-RAM / 133 Mhz



    RAM installed: 64/128/128/ 128 &lt;------- Again.....Apple, as usual, very cheap on RAM



    Optical Drive: CD-ROM / CD-RW/ CD-RW / Combo



    Video: ATi Radeon 16MB VRAM



    Case: Old case and same CRT for the low end. New case with 14" LCD for the others



    Price: 799 / 999 / 1299 / 1499 <hr></blockquote>



    Why would there only be 128MB on the 2 top end machines?... those already have 256MB.



    Also, unless it was to get rid of remaining stock, I dobut Apple would make 2 different iMac forms. It's either LCD or CRT, not both.
  • Reply 39 of 56
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    [quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:

    <strong>Jobs did say we'd begin to close the MHz gap.....when was he planning on it?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    'plan' and 'do' are two totally different story
  • Reply 40 of 56
    Why hasn't anyone mention apple releasing a digital camera?



    Apple was a pioner in the digital camera but they went the way of the newton.



    Couldn't Apple come on stage and release iPhoto and a digital camera (masive storgae and masive pixels).



    Think of something between 2 and 3 megapixles and a 1 gig of storage (a flavor of the hard disk in the iPod) or perhaps a fire wire connection that allows you to download photos on to your iPod on the go. Then you would need as much storage on the actual camera. That would drive sales of both devises and turn the digital hub into a digital web.



    My personal opion is that Apple would release a digital camera before it thought about the digital camcorder market.
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