It has been close to a year since the last update. New Toshiba HD's will probably be coming out, reducing the cost of the current ones, so a HS increase would be expected and or a price cut. Also, the competiton is adopting a number of the features that set the iPod apart from the pack, so it would be a good time for Apple to add some features to the iPod as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think if the iPod gets an update soon (which is very well possible) it will probably be on the software side. Maybe increased funtionality to go with iTunes 4. As far as the hardware side of it goes, im not so sure anything else is needed at the moment. Maybe some price cuts, thats about it.
didn't they get updated at MWNY?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was thinking that they were updated last winte or spring,,,though I'm not positive becouse Its not a device that I'm that interested in for personal use.
They iPod could use a nice voice recorder, something built-in with good noise cancelling to take voice directly to MP3, and a line-in for a good mic to take sound directly to AIFF or slightly better. For me, I'd love an MP3 voice recorder, musicians might like a blend of DAT and iPod?
Expect the eMac to emerge in the new year with a slightly smaller sleeker case and more chrome accents.
A similar cosmetic update to the iMac with price drops on the 17" models, 15" on the bottem end only. Processor speeds? faster i guess 867, 1000 like the powerbooks maybe radeon graphics too.
I really dont see a form change for the emac in 03'. I'd expect signifigant speed increases and maybe fix that nasty bug that only lets around 40% (give or take) of the people who bought one to see the entire screen.
<strong>I really dont see a form change for the emac in 03'. I'd expect signifigant speed increases and maybe fix that nasty bug that only lets around 40% (give or take) of the people who bought one to see the entire screen. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Don't think of it as a bug. Think of it as a way of reducing excess screen space.
I agree about the emac. It's due for an update, but i wouldn't expect a form change. Its the most recent design next to the new Powermacs (which are really the 2nd oldest form factor next to the CRT imac).
I still believe starting with the keynote on the 7th and leading upto halfway through the year with the intro of the G5's, its gonna be a crazy storm of updates and new products.
EVEN THOUGHT I THINK APPLE ARE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY NEED ONE!!!
Apple are poised to reap the rewards of the Switch campaign, cheap and well featured portables, a stunning iMac desktop and superb OS and digitable hub ifreebies.
Great.
However, where the hell is the advertising blitz for 'X' on the scale of '95 by M$?
If they want people to 'Switch' they need to put some ad' muscle behind this. Blanket bombing tv/print and national press ad's INTERNATIONALLY!
They need to show the machines in the ads.
The OS in the Ads and...
The digital hub/software in the ads.
And a slot demystifying the bladdy thing.
Apple needs to advertise and stop with the eclectic vagueries.
They shouldn't be selling a machine with less than a gig. You can't get a 1 gig x86 machine.
Duh.
A damn flat iMac under £999 inc VAT UK prices.
A cheap pizza box iCube-slab to sell to edu' so you can hook up to ANY monitor.
A colour iPod/iPhoto friend. An iPhone to go with their iSync.
A 970 as SOON as possible!
A decent bus speed on all their machines.
Buy a 3D app, eg Xsi 3 to compliment their 'Shake' high-end strategy.
An iOffice to take on W*nker Soft, sorry, M$.
iConferencing.
An app' to manage cell-phone stuff.
A high end graphics card in their top 'power'Mac.
eg Wildcat.
2002, Apple were going to 'innovate' its way out of a recession and ended up with a 'loss' in its last quarter.
They need 1997 style momentum AGAIN to try and shift the crushing slide of market momentum. Apple are shrinking relative to the whole market. They need more than a 'Switch' campaign.
They really DO need to innovate out of this recession.
Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Jobs. Aside from the iMac flat? 2002 was all talk.
EVEN THOUGHT I THINK APPLE ARE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY NEED ONE!!!
Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Jobs. Aside from the iMac flat? 2002 was all talk.
Lemon Bon Bon :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
I kind of thought 10.2 was a rather big development. 2002 was a big year for Apple and 2003 has much potential especially if Apple can duplicate the iPod success.
<strong>Doesn't it seem like starting in early 2003 (macworld) that apple is going to begin a blitz of product anouncements? Besides the portable lines (iBook and TiBook), it seems that a ton of things are due in january or shortly there after as far as hardware and software goes.
Hardware:
Xserve update
Xserve RAID
Powermac update
iPod update
iMac update
eMac update
Display line update
Airport update
New portable device? (i dont personally think there will be but alot of you guys seem to think there will be)
Software
iMovie update
iPhoto update
iDVD update
iTunes update
iSync GM
Final Cut Pro update
(appleworks is long overdue for an update but who knows what apple's plans are with it)
Even if apple only manages to get HALF of these out the door in early 03' (which i think its most likely they will), it still looking like an exciting start for the new year. And MWSF looks like it will be fun . Apologies if this wrong forum because of the inclusion of the software part of it.
-tommy
[edit: spelling, im sure i still didnt catch all of it]
Well, if you believe Steve Jobs, then it is going to be the biggest year ever for Apple. I think that is mostly refering to the iPhone...
Apple even says in the latest Cnet article that Cell Phones are taking on PDA qualities, and its the Cell Phone which will win the battle... Cell Phones are the thing people are issued by their corporation, Cell phones are the things that are replaced every 1-2 years... Cell Phone, Cell Phones, Cell Phones...
Oh yeah, some other great things are going to happen in 2003, but it really doesn't matter if it happens in January, August, or November... This is going to be a year not to miss, if you believe Apple.
Here's the Cnet Link:
"We believe this (cell phone and iSync strategy) replaces the PDA," Apple's Schiller said. "The cell phone becomes your PDA." (Cnet, Paragraph 26)
Another reason to focus on cell phones for synchronization with PCs is that consumers and businesses typically replace cell phones more quickly than PCs. On top of that, manufacturers are rapidly adding newer, PC-like features to phones. (Cnet, Paragraph 28)
My only point is, all of those things are coming, but don't expect everything in MWSF, 2003 is a big year, things will come out as they are ready.
I aree completely that Displays and AirPort are LONG overdue for a change. If nothing else, pricing is WAY out of line with industry standard for both.
As for a PowerMac update, I wish! I seriously don't think Moto is delivering the goods so that Apple can introduce better towers. I have been waiting to buy a new Power Mac for around a year, but the last refresh was so dismal in terms of price and performance, I have decided to stick it out with my Biege G3. As much as I want kick ass towers, I don't think Motorola can deliver, and I don't think IBM is shipping the 970.... I think summer is a more realistic expectation for the new Power Macs.
As the 1 year-no-speed-bumb fiasco has taught us, Apple apparently feels no shame in keeping a comptuer at the same processor speed for an entire year. Sheesh! They could at least double the RAM after 6 months, OS X being Unix and all.
So MWSF or early 2003 should bring us a new iMac. Nothing else. Notebooks were updated too recently.
As cool as the new iMac really is (I love the look) and the iPods are all sweet, but 2002 was so unimpressive that at this point Apple could utterly wow my with a two-button scroll-wheel mouse. You know it's a sad, sad day when Apple making something PC's have had for years is impressive.
All I can say is that I really hope things fall into line later in 2003. I hope so!
<strong>how exactly is the iPod so in need of a hardware update?</strong><hr></blockquote>
A software update would be nice. It needs to be able to playback the new audio format from MPEG-4. Also, a nicer ability to view text would be helpful as opposed to the v-card hack.
The keynote yesterday was a freaking software blitz and a half, and the powerbook announcements were HUGE. :eek:
And if you consider the fact that we're due for eMac/imac/powermac/ipod updates in the not-so-distant future, i'd pretty much say that this January/Feb/March period is a huge software/hardware blitz from apple.
Okay. I was wrong (frame it...) on there not being a software/hardware blitz. Jobs took me out in one keynote.
Still, I stand by alot of the suggestions in my post that would help broaden Apple's appeal in many segments and massage their bottom line.
"I aree completely that Displays and AirPort are LONG overdue for a change. If nothing else, pricing is WAY out of line with industry standard for both."
I'd say. Walked into Gordy Harwoods Apple retailer the other day. Saw the Formac displays. They're handing out a performance/price spanking to the Apple display line...AND, get this, LOOK more like Ives designed THEM! (The Formacs are NOT done justice by the Pics in the adverts...)
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It has been close to a year since the last update. New Toshiba HD's will probably be coming out, reducing the cost of the current ones, so a HS increase would be expected and or a price cut. Also, the competiton is adopting a number of the features that set the iPod apart from the pack, so it would be a good time for Apple to add some features to the iPod as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
didn't they get updated at MWNY?
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didn't they get updated at MWNY?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was thinking that they were updated last winte or spring,,,though I'm not positive becouse Its not a device that I'm that interested in for personal use.
A similar cosmetic update to the iMac with price drops on the 17" models, 15" on the bottem end only. Processor speeds? faster i guess
[ 12-05-2002: Message edited by: I-bent-my-wookie ]</p>
<strong>I really dont see a form change for the emac in 03'. I'd expect signifigant speed increases and maybe fix that nasty bug that only lets around 40% (give or take) of the people who bought one to see the entire screen.
Don't think of it as a bug. Think of it as a way of reducing excess screen space.
I still believe starting with the keynote on the 7th and leading upto halfway through the year with the intro of the G5's, its gonna be a crazy storm of updates and new products.
I really don't see there being a 'Blitz' in 2003.
EVEN THOUGHT I THINK APPLE ARE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY NEED ONE!!!
Apple are poised to reap the rewards of the Switch campaign, cheap and well featured portables, a stunning iMac desktop and superb OS and digitable hub ifreebies.
Great.
However, where the hell is the advertising blitz for 'X' on the scale of '95 by M$?
If they want people to 'Switch' they need to put some ad' muscle behind this. Blanket bombing tv/print and national press ad's INTERNATIONALLY!
They need to show the machines in the ads.
The OS in the Ads and...
The digital hub/software in the ads.
And a slot demystifying the bladdy thing.
Apple needs to advertise and stop with the eclectic vagueries.
They shouldn't be selling a machine with less than a gig. You can't get a 1 gig x86 machine.
Duh.
A damn flat iMac under £999 inc VAT UK prices.
A cheap pizza box iCube-slab to sell to edu' so you can hook up to ANY monitor.
A colour iPod/iPhoto friend. An iPhone to go with their iSync.
A 970 as SOON as possible!
A decent bus speed on all their machines.
Buy a 3D app, eg Xsi 3 to compliment their 'Shake' high-end strategy.
An iOffice to take on W*nker Soft, sorry, M$.
iConferencing.
An app' to manage cell-phone stuff.
A high end graphics card in their top 'power'Mac.
eg Wildcat.
2002, Apple were going to 'innovate' its way out of a recession and ended up with a 'loss' in its last quarter.
They need 1997 style momentum AGAIN to try and shift the crushing slide of market momentum. Apple are shrinking relative to the whole market. They need more than a 'Switch' campaign.
They really DO need to innovate out of this recession.
Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Jobs. Aside from the iMac flat? 2002 was all talk.
Lemon Bon Bon :cool:
<strong>Er. This thread.
I really don't see there being a 'Blitz' in 2003.
EVEN THOUGHT I THINK APPLE ARE AT THE POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY NEED ONE!!!
Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Jobs. Aside from the iMac flat? 2002 was all talk.
Lemon Bon Bon :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>
I kind of thought 10.2 was a rather big development. 2002 was a big year for Apple and 2003 has much potential especially if Apple can duplicate the iPod success.
<strong>Doesn't it seem like starting in early 2003 (macworld) that apple is going to begin a blitz of product anouncements? Besides the portable lines (iBook and TiBook), it seems that a ton of things are due in january or shortly there after as far as hardware and software goes.
Hardware:
Xserve update
Xserve RAID
Powermac update
iPod update
iMac update
eMac update
Display line update
Airport update
New portable device? (i dont personally think there will be but alot of you guys seem to think there will be)
Software
iMovie update
iPhoto update
iDVD update
iTunes update
iSync GM
Final Cut Pro update
(appleworks is long overdue for an update but who knows what apple's plans are with it)
Even if apple only manages to get HALF of these out the door in early 03' (which i think its most likely they will), it still looking like an exciting start for the new year. And MWSF looks like it will be fun
-tommy
[edit: spelling, im sure i still didnt catch all of it]
[ 11-22-2002: Message edited by: TommyBrando ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, if you believe Steve Jobs, then it is going to be the biggest year ever for Apple. I think that is mostly refering to the iPhone...
Apple even says in the latest Cnet article that Cell Phones are taking on PDA qualities, and its the Cell Phone which will win the battle... Cell Phones are the thing people are issued by their corporation, Cell phones are the things that are replaced every 1-2 years... Cell Phone, Cell Phones, Cell Phones...
Oh yeah, some other great things are going to happen in 2003, but it really doesn't matter if it happens in January, August, or November... This is going to be a year not to miss, if you believe Apple.
Here's the Cnet Link:
"We believe this (cell phone and iSync strategy) replaces the PDA," Apple's Schiller said. "The cell phone becomes your PDA." (Cnet, Paragraph 26)
<a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1040-978408.html?tag=lh"; target="_blank">http://news.com.com/2100-1040-978408.html?tag=lh</a>;
Another reason to focus on cell phones for synchronization with PCs is that consumers and businesses typically replace cell phones more quickly than PCs. On top of that, manufacturers are rapidly adding newer, PC-like features to phones. (Cnet, Paragraph 28)
My only point is, all of those things are coming, but don't expect everything in MWSF, 2003 is a big year, things will come out as they are ready.
As for a PowerMac update, I wish! I seriously don't think Moto is delivering the goods so that Apple can introduce better towers. I have been waiting to buy a new Power Mac for around a year, but the last refresh was so dismal in terms of price and performance, I have decided to stick it out with my Biege G3. As much as I want kick ass towers, I don't think Motorola can deliver, and I don't think IBM is shipping the 970.... I think summer is a more realistic expectation for the new Power Macs.
As the 1 year-no-speed-bumb fiasco has taught us, Apple apparently feels no shame in keeping a comptuer at the same processor speed for an entire year. Sheesh! They could at least double the RAM after 6 months, OS X being Unix and all.
So MWSF or early 2003 should bring us a new iMac. Nothing else. Notebooks were updated too recently.
As cool as the new iMac really is (I love the look) and the iPods are all sweet, but 2002 was so unimpressive that at this point Apple could utterly wow my with a two-button scroll-wheel mouse. You know it's a sad, sad day when Apple making something PC's have had for years is impressive.
All I can say is that I really hope things fall into line later in 2003. I hope so!
<strong>how exactly is the iPod so in need of a hardware update?</strong><hr></blockquote>
A software update would be nice. It needs to be able to playback the new audio format from MPEG-4. Also, a nicer ability to view text would be helpful as opposed to the v-card hack.
It's normal for Apple, not normal for other tech companies.
Barto
The keynote yesterday was a freaking software blitz and a half, and the powerbook announcements were HUGE. :eek:
And if you consider the fact that we're due for eMac/imac/powermac/ipod updates in the not-so-distant future, i'd pretty much say that this January/Feb/March period is a huge software/hardware blitz from apple.
[quote] Hardware:
Xserve update
Xserve RAID
Powermac update
iPod update
iMac update
eMac update
Display line update
Airport update
New portable device? (i dont personally think there will be but alot of you guys seem to think there will be)
Software:
iMovie update
iPhoto update
iDVD update
iTunes update
iSync GM
Final Cut Pro update
(appleworks is long overdue for an update but who knows what apple's plans are with it)<hr></blockquote>
Xserve:soon
Xserve RAID: soon
Powermac: soon
iPod: soon
iMac: really soon
eMac: soon
Display Line: jury is out on that one
Airport: yep
new portable device: none to be seen
iMovie: yep
iDVD: yep
iPhoto: yep
iTunes: kinda, features we didnt know there was
iSync GM: yep
Final Cut Pro: pretty much yep (final cut express)
Appleworks: not yet
Keep it come with the blitz!!!!!!!!
[ 01-11-2003: Message edited by: Miami Craig ]</p>
Still, I stand by alot of the suggestions in my post that would help broaden Apple's appeal in many segments and massage their bottom line.
"I aree completely that Displays and AirPort are LONG overdue for a change. If nothing else, pricing is WAY out of line with industry standard for both."
I'd say. Walked into Gordy Harwoods Apple retailer the other day. Saw the Formac displays. They're handing out a performance/price spanking to the Apple display line...AND, get this, LOOK more like Ives designed THEM! (The Formacs are NOT done justice by the Pics in the adverts...)
Lemon Bon Bon