on the road? where do you sleep? most hotels have electricity and an outlet in the room where the thing could charge, and if you are going somewhere that has no power, why would you take the iPod anyway?
and how do you travel, most cars have power via cigar/cigarette lighter, and planes have power for that sort of thing now so where cant you recharge?
1. i have to bring a lot of cables then. i either have to bring a powerbrick and firewire cable or a laptop, powerbrick for that and firewire cable
2. adapter doesnt come with iPod so this doesnt effect battery life or prove to be an easy solution
3. iPod batteries I believe are only rated for a certain amount of charges. I've heard 1000. after that, the effectiveness of charges decreases. so, id rather get 10 or 12 or even more hours and charge it that much less and extend its life.
i get by alright with my 2nd generaton ipod. dont know how much it gets, but it does well. but there are times, when i go away for a day or two or have a long trip somewhere where it does not last as long as i would like. other players get over 15 hours and some over 20. 20 would be the ideal goal i think
My 30GB is over a year old and I still go 6 hrs or maybe a bit more on a charge. My wife's 10GB is over a year and a half old and hold a charge very well with daily usage.
I think part of the amazing battery claims of the newer devices is part technology and part using much lower bitrate files for playback. I am sure if you filled the iPod with lower bitrate songs you could stretch the battery longer than claimed (I won't try it though because those lower bitrates sound like crap).
128kbps sounds ok... whats wrong with that? I assume you're using 168 or 192?
Yah it isn't worth the hassle... converting all of your mp3s to pull out 50 more minutes...
I wasn't really clear when I made the post you refer to.
No, I was actually referring to the claims made by Sony and others with their new devices. Sony's battery life claims were made using playback of 48kbps files (I am fairly sure. I know that their capacity claims were made using music at that bitrate). I would like to see what their battery life is playing back 128kbps (or higher) files.
So does anyone know how much, if at all, battery life would improve if Apple doubled the iPod's RAM buffer? It would have to copy just as much data off the drive in the long run, but fewer spin-ups and spin-downs might save some power. There has to be something more than bitrate to the kind of battery life extension Sony is claiming...
My ipod is 1.5 years old and i still get a solid 8-9 hours out of it. In fact, I just took a trip that 8 hours and it lasted the whole time.
What I would like to see is an improved battery life so the iTrip lasts longer. iTrip drains the battery in half the time even though their website claims it doesn't.
My mini disc player gets battery proportional to the bitrate of the audio. It gets 20 hours when doing long play 4x ( low bit rate ). Im happy to trade the quality for the play time, I can forget to plug it in to charge every so often and still listen to it the next day ( very handy ).
Of course, when the battery goes flat I can just drop in an off the shelf AA to get a few more hours.
The solution I would like to see Apple adopt is the one Sony has for its mini disc players ( mines a sharp ). The Sonys have an internal lion battery, which is an odd shape, and gets charged in a cradle ( all very nice ). If you battery happens to go flat, or you know you'll be away from power for a while ( hiking/boating/cycling etc ) it has a screw on pack which holds an AA battery. You leave with a full charge in the internal battery, and when it goes flat you screw on the bonus pack with its changeable, store buyable, AA battery. This is a much better solution than the Belkin battery, and it looks much like what an itrip does ( a cylinder stuck onto the end of the player ).
Removable battery in the next iPod is a MUST. Probably more important than any "video and color screen doodz1!! And make it a iTablet!!" posts. Only other thing I can think of that would be really functional and freaking EASY to add that was due like 3 years ago would be a MIC/LINE IN. That and removable battery are really glaring. I can't believe they weren't in the very first iPod. Either one of those would get me to buy a new one immediately! My first one is still kickin along but 5 gigs ain't what it used to be ya know! I too like original interface though. I don't like the touch sensitive ones. Oh well you win some you lose some, the lit keys are good.
Hehe maybe they could use those new Toshiba fuel cells?
...The solution I would like to see Apple adopt is the one Sony has for its mini disc players ( mines a sharp ). The Sonys have an internal lion battery, which is an odd shape, and gets charged in a cradle ( all very nice ). If you battery happens to go flat, or you know you'll be away from power for a while ( hiking/boating/cycling etc ) it has a screw on pack which holds an AA battery. You leave with a full charge in the internal battery, and when it goes flat you screw on the bonus pack with its changeable, store buyable, AA battery. This is a much better solution than the Belkin battery, and it looks much like what an itrip does ( a cylinder stuck onto the end of the player ).
Better yet, use one like my Sony camera, which uses AA sized rechargables. When they are drained I can just swap them out for a set of AA's and turn it on. You could also carry an extra set of batteries with you.
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Originally posted by a_greer
on the road? where do you sleep? most hotels have electricity and an outlet in the room where the thing could charge, and if you are going somewhere that has no power, why would you take the iPod anyway?
and how do you travel, most cars have power via cigar/cigarette lighter, and planes have power for that sort of thing now so where cant you recharge?
1. i have to bring a lot of cables then. i either have to bring a powerbrick and firewire cable or a laptop, powerbrick for that and firewire cable
2. adapter doesnt come with iPod so this doesnt effect battery life or prove to be an easy solution
3. iPod batteries I believe are only rated for a certain amount of charges. I've heard 1000. after that, the effectiveness of charges decreases. so, id rather get 10 or 12 or even more hours and charge it that much less and extend its life.
i get by alright with my 2nd generaton ipod. dont know how much it gets, but it does well. but there are times, when i go away for a day or two or have a long trip somewhere where it does not last as long as i would like. other players get over 15 hours and some over 20. 20 would be the ideal goal i think
I think part of the amazing battery claims of the newer devices is part technology and part using much lower bitrate files for playback. I am sure if you filled the iPod with lower bitrate songs you could stretch the battery longer than claimed (I won't try it though because those lower bitrates sound like crap).
Yah it isn't worth the hassle... converting all of your mp3s to pull out 50 more minutes...
Originally posted by emig647
128kbps sounds ok... whats wrong with that? I assume you're using 168 or 192?
Yah it isn't worth the hassle... converting all of your mp3s to pull out 50 more minutes...
I wasn't really clear when I made the post you refer to.
No, I was actually referring to the claims made by Sony and others with their new devices. Sony's battery life claims were made using playback of 48kbps files (I am fairly sure. I know that their capacity claims were made using music at that bitrate). I would like to see what their battery life is playing back 128kbps (or higher) files.
I have no problem with 128kbps AAC on the iPod
What I would like to see is an improved battery life so the iTrip lasts longer. iTrip drains the battery in half the time even though their website claims it doesn't.
Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch
And the interface changed. I still prefer the old wheel/buttons anyday.
Maybe, but the size reduction wasn't an insignificant change. That was my point, that's all.
Of course, when the battery goes flat I can just drop in an off the shelf AA to get a few more hours.
The solution I would like to see Apple adopt is the one Sony has for its mini disc players ( mines a sharp ). The Sonys have an internal lion battery, which is an odd shape, and gets charged in a cradle ( all very nice ). If you battery happens to go flat, or you know you'll be away from power for a while ( hiking/boating/cycling etc ) it has a screw on pack which holds an AA battery. You leave with a full charge in the internal battery, and when it goes flat you screw on the bonus pack with its changeable, store buyable, AA battery. This is a much better solution than the Belkin battery, and it looks much like what an itrip does ( a cylinder stuck onto the end of the player ).
Hehe maybe they could use those new Toshiba fuel cells?
Originally posted by mmmpie
...The solution I would like to see Apple adopt is the one Sony has for its mini disc players ( mines a sharp ). The Sonys have an internal lion battery, which is an odd shape, and gets charged in a cradle ( all very nice ). If you battery happens to go flat, or you know you'll be away from power for a while ( hiking/boating/cycling etc ) it has a screw on pack which holds an AA battery. You leave with a full charge in the internal battery, and when it goes flat you screw on the bonus pack with its changeable, store buyable, AA battery. This is a much better solution than the Belkin battery, and it looks much like what an itrip does ( a cylinder stuck onto the end of the player ).
Better yet, use one like my Sony camera, which uses AA sized rechargables. When they are drained I can just swap them out for a set of AA's and turn it on. You could also carry an extra set of batteries with you.