Thats actuly a pretty good idea I think putting the power box at the base of the monitor !
Actually solves a few problems.
I wonder when they are going to come back to reality and just make the imac and laptops bigger to accommodate the size of the heat sinks ?
After all thats the way that things have always been technology dictates the size of the enclosure not the other way around the next generation of machines should be big because of the heat sink requirements and they can get smaller later.
particularly when it comes to the imac if it fits on the desk then people will buy as long as it is cheap !
Rich people have LARGE desktops for 30 inch screens and carry a laptop like a pocket book, size does not matter for THE REST OF US as long as there is functionality!
So the next imac can be a big box like the one above as long as its FAST !!!
And slightly upgradable ?
Though i was expecting something with a lot of grills for no particular reason other than function.
I hadn't been able to think of a way of mating a square shape with a display arm untill I saw that.
Such a design would keep all the adjustability that matters for a display -- up, down, tilt, while offering what is basically both a headless and AIO out of one design. If Apple wanted to be really slick, they might have a version of their all-into-one DVI connector built into that arm, so that there is a minimum protrusion of cables.
A 999 single processor box should not be difficult. There's a 1299 G4 based tower still in the Apple store. Since the G5 is rumored to cost little if anything more than a G4, deleting all the slots ad extra drive bays, in favor of a simpler integrated Mobo ought to produce the required savings.
Suddenly you have an iMac at the advertised "Sweet spot" yet it has more than enough oomph, and doesn't anchor you to one display. Yes, you still have to get a display for it, but you have options. You might buy a 17" widescreen display from Apple, and they should offer one for 499 (a fair price in the year 2004.) or yo might recycle a previous display, though not set up like that pic.
One thing to keep in mind. The box would have to be about 9x9x9. Kinda tall, not sure how a smaller display would look sitting on top of it. I wonder it's drawn to scale with the monitor? And, what size would that make the display on top?
Apparently there is a marginwidth and leftmargin shortage in Germany. Let's take a collection...it's a good cause.
I've run out of empty folders on my beige G3. Possibly you have some to share?
Neway. I think most of the mockups have some serious problems with proportions and grace. Ze German one might possibly be onto something but it is just so cube and thus so 90s.
I'm expecting to be blown away by another Columbus Egg? from the Ives studio and I guess that's the reason why he and not the rest of us are head of Apple design. 8)
Neway. I think most of the mockups have some serious problems with proportions and grace. Ze German one might possibly be onto something but it is just so cube and thus so 90s.
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
Let's not forget that the Cube was introduced in 2000, right after a major push by industry to upgrade hardware before the fableed "Y2K" problem, so sales should have been expected to be weak for at least a year. Also going on at that time was a recession if economists are to be believed. There was more going against the Cube than it being a Mac, or its high price, or any other number of complaits which could have been taken care of with a "consumer" version in white plastic and replacing the power button with a physical button. The price for the 450 did come down to $1299 for the update before it was canceled, so some "consumerizations" might have been able to get it down a bit more. However, even at $1299 it was a good deal and I think it would have sold much better in the months following its demise as the 500 mhz barrier was breached, IT spending recovered from the Y2K overload, and the country began recovering from the economy.
One big problem that I think that plagued the Cube was the price that it was originally introduced at. I don't think that the press or public remembers the later price reductions, just the $1799 starting price. This was a major failure on Apple's marketing (especially for allowing the $1799 price in the first place) and a failure in Apple's advertising. Apple's advertising has never been good at getting the "price" out even if they are good at establishing an identity. That is why people think Macs are expensive. The identity adds are nice, but plaster on the "Starting at" price in big bold type at the end of those ads, or get the word out in newspaper or some other media that is not Mac-centric.
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
Yeh, I wasn't making a value judgement. Rather, I think that once Apple departs from a design they don't return to it. We're not going to see El Capitan or his siblings, nor the gummy-drop iMacs or the coloured plastics of yore raise their little heads again.
The Cube is a thing of beauty, but it has passed away into Apple lore as the one that was too good for the world.
Yeh, I wasn't making a value judgement. Rather, I think that once Apple departs from a design they don't return to it.....
There was a distinct differnce in the way they worded the discontinuation of the Cube that does leave the possibility open for a return. I think that there is definatly room for another desktop in their line-up, especially with the intro price of the current PM G5. It would be a good move on Apple's part to put a product in that price-point that covers the needs of consumers and buisnesses that are not met by the iMac for one reason or another. A redesigned Cube makes sense, though a lower priced tower would work just as well.
Comments
Originally posted by blunky
Here's one - click to enlarge:
Thats actuly a pretty good idea I think putting the power box at the base of the monitor !
Actually solves a few problems.
I wonder when they are going to come back to reality and just make the imac and laptops bigger to accommodate the size of the heat sinks ?
After all thats the way that things have always been technology dictates the size of the enclosure not the other way around the next generation of machines should be big because of the heat sink requirements and they can get smaller later.
particularly when it comes to the imac if it fits on the desk then people will buy as long as it is cheap !
Rich people have LARGE desktops for 30 inch screens and carry a laptop like a pocket book, size does not matter for THE REST OF US as long as there is functionality!
So the next imac can be a big box like the one above as long as its FAST !!!
And slightly upgradable ?
Though i was expecting something with a lot of grills for no particular reason other than function.
Originally posted by blunky
Here's one - click to enlarge:
I like your efforts, but it reminds me of the Next cube without the black paint Steve spent forever and $$$ to get right.
Like disassembled and layed out?
Originally posted by blunky
Here's one - click to enlarge:
I think it actually came from here:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/eug/Apple/i...03_resized.jpg
Eugene?
Originally posted by Addison
Yuk!
I think it's quite lovely, actually.
I hadn't been able to think of a way of mating a square shape with a display arm untill I saw that.
Such a design would keep all the adjustability that matters for a display -- up, down, tilt, while offering what is basically both a headless and AIO out of one design. If Apple wanted to be really slick, they might have a version of their all-into-one DVI connector built into that arm, so that there is a minimum protrusion of cables.
A 999 single processor box should not be difficult. There's a 1299 G4 based tower still in the Apple store. Since the G5 is rumored to cost little if anything more than a G4, deleting all the slots ad extra drive bays, in favor of a simpler integrated Mobo ought to produce the required savings.
Suddenly you have an iMac at the advertised "Sweet spot" yet it has more than enough oomph, and doesn't anchor you to one display. Yes, you still have to get a display for it, but you have options. You might buy a 17" widescreen display from Apple, and they should offer one for 499 (a fair price in the year 2004.) or yo might recycle a previous display, though not set up like that pic.
One thing to keep in mind. The box would have to be about 9x9x9. Kinda tall, not sure how a smaller display would look sitting on top of it. I wonder it's drawn to scale with the monitor? And, what size would that make the display on top?
Originally posted by ArticulatedArm
Does anyone have a picture of the current generation iMacs internals?
Like disassembled and layed out?
Best I have seen is here.
EDIT - This is even better:
Full pics, here:
http://www.3dnews.ru/reviews/mac/imac/
Originally posted by ~ufo~
Holy Guacemole Kroehl !
what is that ? it looks like a concept console by B&O !
what the hell is that thing amd do you own it?
Nope, don't own that one.
I have this one though:
(blinkenlights and all)
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Here's another one.
I really really really like this design! Where did you find it?
even more so than the 1600
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Here's another one.
now THAT looks like an apple product to me....
kudos to zee germans!
Originally posted by ~ufo~
now THAT looks like an apple product to me....
kudos to zee germans!
Apparently there is a marginwidth and leftmargin shortage in Germany.
Originally posted by johnq
Apparently there is a marginwidth and leftmargin shortage in Germany.
I've run out of empty folders on my beige G3. Possibly you have some to share?
Neway. I think most of the mockups have some serious problems with proportions and grace. Ze German one might possibly be onto something but it is just so cube and thus so 90s.
I'm expecting to be blown away by another Columbus Egg? from the Ives studio and I guess that's the reason why he and not the rest of us are head of Apple design. 8)
Originally posted by kroehl
Neway. I think most of the mockups have some serious problems with proportions and grace. Ze German one might possibly be onto something but it is just so cube and thus so 90s.
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
Originally posted by RolandG
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
Let's not forget that the Cube was introduced in 2000, right after a major push by industry to upgrade hardware before the fableed "Y2K" problem, so sales should have been expected to be weak for at least a year. Also going on at that time was a recession if economists are to be believed. There was more going against the Cube than it being a Mac, or its high price, or any other number of complaits which could have been taken care of with a "consumer" version in white plastic and replacing the power button with a physical button. The price for the 450 did come down to $1299 for the update before it was canceled, so some "consumerizations" might have been able to get it down a bit more. However, even at $1299 it was a good deal and I think it would have sold much better in the months following its demise as the 500 mhz barrier was breached, IT spending recovered from the Y2K overload, and the country began recovering from the economy.
One big problem that I think that plagued the Cube was the price that it was originally introduced at. I don't think that the press or public remembers the later price reductions, just the $1799 starting price. This was a major failure on Apple's marketing (especially for allowing the $1799 price in the first place) and a failure in Apple's advertising. Apple's advertising has never been good at getting the "price" out even if they are good at establishing an identity. That is why people think Macs are expensive. The identity adds are nice, but plaster on the "Starting at" price in big bold type at the end of those ads, or get the word out in newspaper or some other media that is not Mac-centric.
Originally posted by RolandG
I don't think the Cube is sooo 90s... people love it, they still go for respectable amounts on eBay.
The bad sales numbers were due to a bad price/performance-ratio rather than lack of interest - heck, that thing has a place at the MoMA in New York!
Yeh, I wasn't making a value judgement. Rather, I think that once Apple departs from a design they don't return to it. We're not going to see El Capitan or his siblings, nor the gummy-drop iMacs or the coloured plastics of yore raise their little heads again.
The Cube is a thing of beauty, but it has passed away into Apple lore as the one that was too good for the world.
Originally posted by kroehl
Yeh, I wasn't making a value judgement. Rather, I think that once Apple departs from a design they don't return to it.....
There was a distinct differnce in the way they worded the discontinuation of the Cube that does leave the possibility open for a return. I think that there is definatly room for another desktop in their line-up, especially with the intro price of the current PM G5. It would be a good move on Apple's part to put a product in that price-point that covers the needs of consumers and buisnesses that are not met by the iMac for one reason or another. A redesigned Cube makes sense, though a lower priced tower would work just as well.
A redesigned Cube makes sense, though a lower priced tower would work just as well.
Amen.
Lemon Bon Bon
but stevie boy must be afraid of loss of credibility.
well...... you lost me at the sunflower blurb oul' boy.