For all of you that think this is fake go and pay $3.99 and turn to page 14 and open your eyes and look. Now maybe PopSci could have faked it, but why? I scanned the pcitures this morning and didn't alter them in any way. (Do I sound defensive) .
<strong>For all of you that think this is fake go and pay $3.99 and turn to page 14 and open your eyes and look. Now maybe PopSci could have faked it, but why? I scanned the pcitures this morning and didn't alter them in any way. (Do I sound defensive) .</strong><hr></blockquote>
Okay...
Step 1 - go to google-newsgroups
Step 2 - search Apple Siemens Phone
Step 3 - read about 1993/1994/1995 Apple-Siemens NotePhone
BTW the phone in the photo is NOT a NotePhone but it does show that Apple and Siemens have worked together in the past mostly on Newton stuff. After Apple killed the Newton would they still work together? I dunno...
<strong>No he's not, but someone else may be. This was discussed over at macrumirs and someone said it's an old mockup.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Arn said it was an old mockup, but I'd like to see the old photography.
As for being handwritten - you're looking too damn hard. Looking at the closeup, all of the letters seem a little jittery. That's what you get when you scan a print. It's pixelated (though not in the square sense, as in the circular blobs of ink that overlap sense.)
Buy the magazine and judge for yourself. Looks pretty sharp in person.
Besides, these are prototypes, not mass produced consumer goods. The process used to print the lettering onto the keypad probably isn't the best.
Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE. I shot the pictures in question and ZERO retouching was done. Cheers, John
Now that's cool. Off topic, but just asking, what kinds of cameras and computers do you use?</strong><hr></blockquote>
In the NYC studio I have two 867 G4 towers w/ 1 gig ram each and two 21" Apple CRT displays. We have blown up two 21's thus far. On the road I'm running the original G4Ti book . We use both digital and film cameras. We currently have a full Canon EOS 3 system with two bodies and almost every lens that Canon makes. Two Mamiya 6x4.5 AFD 's and every lens they make for it. We have a Kodak 560 (the first 6MP SLR), a Canon D1s, (under loan from Canon). We rent the Kodak Pro Back for the Mamiya when needed. For database scans we have the Nikon 8000 coolscan.
firefly any opinions on the canon 1ds verse the Kodak 14n? I have no interest in the sigma but assuming the foveon went into a better qualitity camera do you think they are in the running as well?
oh also if you wanted to get into photography right now are these new digitals the way to go? large format is to cumberson for me and I heard these new cameras are starting to challenge them...
Canon d1s is gonna be a much more bullet proof machine. I've been testing the D1s for three weeks and the images look great-you could compare it to a 6x4.5 film image. The kodak will be based on a less bullet proof body. I have not done a hands on with the kodak yet. Figure Kodak for studio and Canon for both Studio and field use...
Sometime early next year I'll be buying a digital camera(re: the Fuji 3800 appeals to me and my wallet) and either a low-end tower(w/ upgrade to superdrive) or iMac/superdrive.
The original post claimed that the photos are in the current issue of Popular Science. I have poured over Page 14. I see no evidence of Apple in the pictures at all. I think that someone is seeing what he wants to see.
From memory: the offending key appeared to be in the lower right-hand corner of a keyboard. It looked like a hollow Apple logo. Judging by the JPGs that were posted, it would be pretty small in the photo.
The original post claimed that the photos are in the current issue of Popular Science. I have poured over Page 14. I see no evidence of Apple in the pictures at all. I think that someone is seeing what he wants to see.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Other people have reported it, so it's really in the magazine. The issue is whether it's a real Apple device or a non Apple device. However, the photographer posting above seems to say it's a Apple non working prototype.
Other people have reported it, so it's really in the magazine. The issue is whether it's a real Apple device or a non Apple device. However, the photographer posting above seems to say it's a Apple non working prototype.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is in the magazine...
The photographer didn't make any pro/anti Apple comments here is exactly what he said:
" Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE. I shot the pictures in question and ZERO retouching was done. Cheers, John"
Followed by...
"All were non working mockups"
The device you are looking for on the pages of PopSci is:
1 - Made by Siemens
2 - Is round with 'wings' that come out that form the keyboard.
3 - Find the letter Y on the right-hand 'wing'
4 - Look below that letter and you'll see an Apple Logo
The photographer didn't make any pro/anti Apple comments here is exactly what he said:
" Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE. I shot the pictures in question and ZERO retouching was done. Cheers, John"
Followed by...
"All were non working mockups"
The device you are looking for on the pages of PopSci is:
1 - Made by Siemens
2 - Is round with 'wings' that come out that form the keyboard.
3 - Find the letter Y on the right-hand 'wing'
4 - Look below that letter and you'll see an Apple Logo
Hope this helps...
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
In the case of these mock ups the designer left them all with me for a matter of several hours. In the rush to make all the photographs I hardly noticed the APPLE icon. Seems funny but I had to make 42 photographs of all the various phones and everything just started blurring together. It was not till we were packing the units up that we first made notice of the icon. I photograph many future products, most under NDA agreements. The device in question had no special Apple reference and I'd just figure that the designers are also Apple fans...
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<strong>For all of you that think this is fake go and pay $3.99 and turn to page 14 and open your eyes and look. Now maybe PopSci could have faked it, but why? I scanned the pcitures this morning and didn't alter them in any way. (Do I sound defensive)
Okay...
Step 1 - go to google-newsgroups
Step 2 - search Apple Siemens Phone
Step 3 - read about 1993/1994/1995 Apple-Siemens NotePhone
BTW the phone in the photo is NOT a NotePhone but it does show that Apple and Siemens have worked together in the past mostly on Newton stuff. After Apple killed the Newton would they still work together? I dunno...
Dave
<strong>No he's not, but someone else may be. This was discussed over at macrumirs and someone said it's an old mockup.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Arn said it was an old mockup, but I'd like to see the old photography.
As for being handwritten - you're looking too damn hard. Looking at the closeup, all of the letters seem a little jittery. That's what you get when you scan a print. It's pixelated (though not in the square sense, as in the circular blobs of ink that overlap sense.)
Buy the magazine and judge for yourself. Looks pretty sharp in person.
Besides, these are prototypes, not mass produced consumer goods. The process used to print the lettering onto the keypad probably isn't the best.
<a href="http://www.carnettphoto.com"; target="_blank">www.carnettphoto.com</a>
[ 12-16-2002: Message edited by: firefly ]</p>
<strong>Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE....
Cheers, John
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now that's cool. Off topic, but just asking, what kinds of cameras and computers do you use?
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Now that's cool. Off topic, but just asking, what kinds of cameras and computers do you use?</strong><hr></blockquote>
In the NYC studio I have two 867 G4 towers w/ 1 gig ram each and two 21" Apple CRT displays. We have blown up two 21's thus far. On the road I'm running the original G4Ti book . We use both digital and film cameras. We currently have a full Canon EOS 3 system with two bodies and almost every lens that Canon makes. Two Mamiya 6x4.5 AFD 's and every lens they make for it. We have a Kodak 560 (the first 6MP SLR), a Canon D1s, (under loan from Canon). We rent the Kodak Pro Back for the Mamiya when needed. For database scans we have the Nikon 8000 coolscan.
Thanks!
Since you shot the pictures in question, then you have seen/touched/felt the product in question as well.
So, is it really an apple key? if so, what does it invoke? did you have a chance to play with the product?
[QB]Firefly,
Since you shot the pictures in question, then you have seen/touched/felt the product in question as well.
All were non working mockups
Thanks for the response. Color me jealous.
Sometime early next year I'll be buying a digital camera(re: the Fuji 3800 appeals to me and my wallet) and either a low-end tower(w/ upgrade to superdrive) or iMac/superdrive.
<strong><a href="http://tchomeshow.com/PS1.jpg"; target="_blank">picture 1</a>
<a href="http://tchomeshow.com/PS3.jpg"; target="_blank">picture 2</a>
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Pictures gone already? Did Apple Legal get to you?
<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
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Pictures gone already? Did Apple Legal get to you?
<img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The original post claimed that the photos are in the current issue of Popular Science. I have poured over Page 14. I see no evidence of Apple in the pictures at all. I think that someone is seeing what he wants to see.
Keep looking.
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The original post claimed that the photos are in the current issue of Popular Science. I have poured over Page 14. I see no evidence of Apple in the pictures at all. I think that someone is seeing what he wants to see.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Other people have reported it, so it's really in the magazine. The issue is whether it's a real Apple device or a non Apple device. However, the photographer posting above seems to say it's a Apple non working prototype.
press@webforever.com
That way I can post um.
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Other people have reported it, so it's really in the magazine. The issue is whether it's a real Apple device or a non Apple device. However, the photographer posting above seems to say it's a Apple non working prototype.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It is in the magazine...
The photographer didn't make any pro/anti Apple comments here is exactly what he said:
" Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE. I shot the pictures in question and ZERO retouching was done. Cheers, John"
Followed by...
"All were non working mockups"
The device you are looking for on the pages of PopSci is:
1 - Made by Siemens
2 - Is round with 'wings' that come out that form the keyboard.
3 - Find the letter Y on the right-hand 'wing'
4 - Look below that letter and you'll see an Apple Logo
Hope this helps...
Dave
<strong>
It is in the magazine...
The photographer didn't make any pro/anti Apple comments here is exactly what he said:
" Believe it or not I'm John B. Carnett Staff Photographer POPULAR SCIENCE MAGAZINE. I shot the pictures in question and ZERO retouching was done. Cheers, John"
Followed by...
"All were non working mockups"
The device you are looking for on the pages of PopSci is:
1 - Made by Siemens
2 - Is round with 'wings' that come out that form the keyboard.
3 - Find the letter Y on the right-hand 'wing'
4 - Look below that letter and you'll see an Apple Logo
Hope this helps...
Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>
In the case of these mock ups the designer left them all with me for a matter of several hours. In the rush to make all the photographs I hardly noticed the APPLE icon. Seems funny but I had to make 42 photographs of all the various phones and everything just started blurring together. It was not till we were packing the units up that we first made notice of the icon. I photograph many future products, most under NDA agreements. The device in question had no special Apple reference and I'd just figure that the designers are also Apple fans...