This is the sub-notebook Apple should have made.

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
The <a href="http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=Afxl0M1BE6Jl0PNFqmJv24JRn1kJZX7bmpg=?Cat alogCategoryID=tI8KC0%2eNJhkAAADyQGo8lSwT&ProductI D=0PEKC0%2eNoDoAAADyNLo8lSwe&Dept=cpu" target="_blank">Sony Vaio SRX99</a> is a sweet piece of kit! I almost bought one the other day while at CompUSA to throw Linux on it. What stopped me was that it uses the shared system RAM concept instead of an independent graphics card. Even an 8 MB graphics card like the older PowerBooks (Wallstreet, Lombard, Pismo) were far superior to the shared 11 MB of the Vaio. Since the store had it connected to the net via the inegrated 802.11b WiFi I went to Apple's Quick Time trailers site. Man, the thing really sucked! Stuff even my iBook (500 MHz, 66MHz bus) handled with aplomb caused the Sony to stutter.



If Apple released something like the SRX99 for travelers I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Provided, of course, they fixed the graphics problem. Check out the specs: good hard drive, decent but not stunning amount of RAM, and good battery life with the P III processor and 10.4" screen. Peripherals like CD and floppy are seperate so you decide if you want to lug them along on the road. For a super-portable this makes perfect sense.
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  • Reply 1 of 109
    pscatespscates Posts: 5,847member
    I think I'd simply rather spend $200 bucks LESS and get a larger screen, a combo drive actuall on-board, etc. (the $1299 12" iBook).



    2-3lbs. and 1" smaller width just doesn't appeal to me as having EVERYTHING on the iBook, ready to go.



    Not to mention, it looks cooler without even trying.







    You see a lot of these companies throwing metal accents, curved panels and crap all over their PCs. I've never seen it work as well as the worst Apple designs, to be honest. It's looks like they're playing "me too" and "catch up" because...well, they are.



  • Reply 2 of 109
    No it's not. Have you ever tried typing on the SRX's keyboard? It's terrible because the keys are just too small.
  • Reply 3 of 109
    Fugly. A ten inch screen at 1024 x 768? They better include a magnifying glass with that thing.
  • Reply 4 of 109
    No way! I think the iBook 12" is far better than that sony thing!
  • Reply 5 of 109
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Apple should offer this at least for the Japanese market, and maybe a special edition for the USA. It might not sell tons in the US, but I think the Japanese would appreciate it.
  • Reply 6 of 109
    stunnedstunned Posts: 1,096member
    [quote]Originally posted by trevorM:

    <strong>No way! I think the iBook 12" is far better than that sony thing!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I agree. the iBook is way better.
  • Reply 7 of 109
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    Apple should invest in a "break out box" for ethernet, firewire, USB and audio I/O. One connector with an external box for their iBook, iMac and potential sub-notebook. That could consolidate some of the electronics while keeping the machines upgradeable in print if not in practice.
  • Reply 8 of 109
    [quote]Originally posted by bunge:

    <strong>Apple should invest in a "break out box" for ethernet, firewire, USB and audio I/O. One connector with an external box for their iBook, iMac and potential sub-notebook. That could consolidate some of the electronics while keeping the machines upgradeable in print if not in practice.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Problem with that is that it is yet another thing to lug around with your computer, which causes problems in the long term.
  • Reply 8 of 109
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    iBook kicks ass. Every PC Laptop sucks balls compared to the iBook. All IMHO.



    Now, if Apple came up with something like the oqo... things would be different.



    Barto
  • Reply 10 of 109
    bungebunge Posts: 7,329member
    [quote]Originally posted by trevorM:

    <strong>



    Problem with that is that it is yet another thing to lug around with your computer, which causes problems in the long term.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well with a sub notebook, you wouldn't need to carry it with you. With an iMac, the machine is stationary so it wouldn't be a big deal. Plus, motherboards could advance faster because several parts would be offloaded.
  • Reply 11 of 109
    hobbeshobbes Posts: 1,252member
    I hate cramped, too-small keyboards as well, but having used a 3 lb. ThinkPad for a few months, I have to say that the 2-3 lb. subnotebook idea is not something to ignore. It's very, very nice having something that light. (Of course, that same ThinkPad had about one miserable hour of battery life.)



    If Apple can make the iBook even lighter than it is, that would be awfully nice.
  • Reply 12 of 109
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    Uh, a battery for that thing is $299.00! They even offer you finance on it!?
  • Reply 13 of 109
    tkntkn Posts: 224member
    Check out the Fujitsu Lifebook P, everything in a 3 lb packaqe, it is doable... I've been clamoring for a 3lb Titanium for a while...
  • Reply 14 of 109
    Why would you want such a dinky computer? Are you a midget or something?
  • Reply 15 of 109
    I think that if Apple were to do this, they would wait until it can be done right. These subnotebooks are far less useful in practice than they appear to be. Short battery life, high prices, external junk to attach, tiny keyboards, etc.



    In fact, a computer cannot really get any smaller in length or width than the 12.1 iBook and still have a usable keyboard. Apple's best bet would be to work on making the iBook shorter, lighter, and cheaper by consolidating more components and rearranging the internal structure.
  • Reply 16 of 109
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    Rogue is exactly right. A FULL SIZE keyboard, not something aparently designed for pointy fingered Japanese girls, defines the minimum dimensions of any true notebook, and I would argue any useable sub-note aswell. To respond to the topic title: NO, that is not the sub-note Apple should have made.



    Deficiencies of SRX-99



    Battery life, yes, they say twelve hours, but that's only with an optional double capacity battery that sits awkwardly (and vulnerably) and makes the in lap useage targeted at sub-notes even trickier.



    10.4" screen??? Hello 1024x768, no thanks.



    Keyboard key pitch? Not full size, therefore inadequate.



    Internal Optical? Sorry, anotehr glaring omission. Under any kind of serious interaction/useage you will be handed CD-roms, and using that thing, you'll need to hook up the external drive every time.



    Basically it's a total turd in every sense. Too big to go anywhere that an iBook can't. Too small to be truly useful for more than a short stretch.



    And it doesn't even have the traditional PC virtues of Speed and low price: 850Mhz P3/100Mhz FSB and SHARED VIDEO starting at 1499!!! If I have to by an overpriced & underpowered PC, I may as well buy a mac, no? <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    I fail to see how this techno toy is in any way better than a 12" iBook, except that it weighs 2 lbs less when you leave all the accessories (including the useful battery and optical) at home.



    Garbage. Apple has enough problems, you seem to want them to create more for themselves.
  • Reply 17 of 109
    banchobancho Posts: 1,517member
    I agree with those that disagree as to the Sony being the ideal portable. I think it's important to have the optical drive internal.



    I do think that Sony has done a reasonable decent job of designing their small portables. The graphics gripe from a previous post is a valid one. Shared memory graphics suck ass in a major way.



    Most of these ultra small machines use older PIII and Transmeta processors which the iBook more than holds it's own against.



    Lastly, none of these ultra-portable PCs can really compete on a price/feature basis with the iBook. I think the real ultra portable is the iBook and any improvement should merely be refinement of it as it exists today.
  • Reply 18 of 109
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    [quote]Originally posted by rambo47:

    <strong>The <a href="http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=Afxl0M1BE6Jl0PNFqmJv24JRn1kJZX7bmpg=?Cat alogCategoryID=tI8KC0%2eNJhkAAADyQGo8lSwT&ProductI D=0PEKC0%2eNoDoAAADyNLo8lSwe&Dept=cpu" target="_blank">Sony Vaio SRX99</a> is a sweet piece of kit!...</strong><hr></blockquote>



    THIS is the sub-notebook Apple should have made: <a href="http://www.sony.jp/products/Consumer/PCOM/PCG-U1/"; target="_blank">Sony PCG-U1 Sub-Notebook</a>











    [ 12-23-2002: Message edited by: Quick ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 109
    My uncle bought one of these Sony's and gave it to me to config for him. This thing is WAY better than any ultraportable device out there. Even the iBooks, which in my opinion lack punch for their size. They should have had G4's in them by now.



    This Sony has everything that you could want. Now, I am not saying that this is a great primary computer, but this is a perfect SECONDARY computer for those of us that travel and need power in a ultra small package.



    My uncle has a TiBook that he creates all of his powerpoint presentations on then he copies them over to this Sony when he gives his speeches. Coming from a man that give speeches around the world constantly, when he says that it is the best portable he has ever owned, I believe him. Plus, he says that his presentations look and run better on this thing when he uses the LCD projectors. I agreed when I compared this Sony next to hi TiBook.
  • Reply 20 of 109
    [quote]Originally posted by Bancho:

    <strong>I agree with those that disagree as to the Sony being the ideal portable. I think it's important to have the optical drive internal.



    I do think that Sony has done a reasonable decent job of designing their small portables. The graphics gripe from a previous post is a valid one. Shared memory graphics suck ass in a major way.



    Most of these ultra small machines use older PIII and Transmeta processors which the iBook more than holds it's own against.



    Lastly, none of these ultra-portable PCs can really compete on a price/feature basis with the iBook. I think the real ultra portable is the iBook and any improvement should merely be refinement of it as it exists today.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    How can you say that this doesn't compete on a price/feature ratio? Sure if you compare this Sony to the $999 iBook. But then the Sony is a much better machine. If you juice up the iBook to match the sony, you are within $100 or so, and you STILL don't have all the features this sony has. Do the math.



    [ 12-23-2002: Message edited by: Crouton ]</p>
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