<strong>Sure Apple dosen't want to talk mhz! Why should they? Their fastest chip runs at 867 mhz! While intel and amd are running 2200 mhz, 1500 mhz! Does anyone really believe that mhz don't count speech of steve jobs! It's not the mac faithful! It's the mac gullible! Apple computers are just plain slower! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think it's seriously time for you to stop what you've been doing.
I have been an avid Mac fan ever since the days of the old 128K machines. The reason why Macintosh users are Mac fans is for one very important thing: RELIABILITY.
I have to use a Win2K machine at work. It is a 1.0GHz Athalon machine. Very nice indeed. However I can't tell you the number of times I have to reboot that thing daily. 3 - 4 on a minimum.
My IIci with a 68040 upgrade card in it (running at 80MHz) is far more reliable. I haven't had to reboot that thing for a month now. The only more reliable machine I have ever had the pleasure to use was a Linux machine.
I will be getting an iMac come the expo. And then I will be using OS X because I love it!! I love having the ease of use of a Mac, plus the strength and durability of a Unix machine.
[quote]Originally posted by GardenOfEarthlyDelights:
<strong>Those hippy folks at AMD have recently stopped declaring processor speeds in an attempt to stem the mind tide against Mega/Gigahertz and Intel. So now, if you buy an Athlon, you can get an 1800+, which running at <cough> 1.53GHz </cough>.
So what's the possibility of Steve and Friends dropping the G4 (or G5) from the PowerMac nomenclature? Then they're free to market whatever processor Mot makes up (providing there's still someone in <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23453.html"; target="_blank">their plant</a> to make the things). That could mean an Apollo low end, with a G5 high end. After all, the high end usually comes out weeks after the keynote, giving them time. They've already tried attacking the Megahertz myth, so they could try backing off on marketing the processor altogether. <sarcasm> Everybody already knows they have a supercomputer </sarcasm>. Merthel, quick! Super-duper glue another heat sink on that processor!
And remember, EMC engineers do it until it Megahertz.</strong><hr></blockquote>
And apple folks aren't hippies?, well arguably they are hippies, though steve-o is a yuppie.
-ies
anyways
the g3 and g4 don't tell you the Mhz. number
same as athlon1800
and too stupid people, the 1800 means 1800 mhz, until they ask the sales consultant and he says its only 1.4 or whatver ghz, they say " oh that sucks" and they buy a 2 ghz p4
Whatever torll. My 3 year old G4 is still rocking, so is my 3 month old iBook. My wife has no complaints about her 1 1/2 old iMac. The iBook is the exact opposite of being overpriced. The iPod? mm, the HD itself costs $300+. Outdated the day it ships? And I suppose it taking 3 years for PCs to elimibate the floppy is out-dated?
You face the facts, if you have a problem with Mac then go snatch your self a state of the art PC and cry before you even get home because the peice of shit is outdated the HOUR AFTER YOU BOUGHT IT.</strong><hr></blockquote>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
<strong>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Its more like, People that post on how apple sucks with either incorrect information or incomplete information, likewise, coming off to the world as simply puting a company down for no reason, just as people would defend putting a person down for no reason, you have to understand that people here are loyal to apple and they all like to brag about how much knowledge they have, so when someone posts ignorant rants(or half ignorant, or whatever) they take the oppurtunity to strike. Or course this isn't always the case, dumb posts or posts that are a waste of peoples time and patience, are troll posts, if you don't like the way things work with the people here, there isn't much you can do because they are a mostly diverse group and it is often a great challenge to change a large groupd of peoples opinion on a cross internet accepted definition of trolling.
I hope I made sense and cleared things up a bit for you, if not then, I'm sorry I couldn't be more of a help, but one thing I should definatly add is
Its more like, People that post on how apple sucks with either incorrect information or incomplete information, likewise, coming off to the world as simply puting a company down for no reason, just as people would defend putting a person down for no reason, you have to understand that people here are loyal to apple and they all like to brag about how much knowledge they have, so when someone posts ignorant rants(or half ignorant, or whatever) they take the oppurtunity to strike. Or course this isn't always the case, dumb posts or posts that are a waste of peoples time and patience, are troll posts, if you don't like the way things work with the people here, there isn't much you can do because they are a mostly diverse group and it is often a great challenge to change a large groupd of peoples opinion on a cross internet accepted definition of trolling.
I hope I made sense and cleared things up a bit for you, if not then, I'm sorry I couldn't be more of a help, but one thing I should definatly add is
chill out, its only the internet!
-wr</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL, thank you!
As the troll said earlier-
[quote] I couldn't of said it better myself!!!!!!!!!
<strong>Sure Apple dosen't want to talk mhz! Why should they? Their fastest chip runs at 867 mhz! While intel and amd are running 2200 mhz, 1500 mhz! Does anyone really believe that mhz don't count speech of steve jobs! It's not the mac faithful! It's the mac gullible! Apple computers are just plain slower! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> x 4 </strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>Me thinks Renan and rbald are the same troll.</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by rbald:
<strong>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
x 4 </strong><hr></blockquote>
What a simple mind rbald has... a simplicity that is mulitplied by the fact that it thinks any Mac user on these boards could be simpleminded enough to starting hating Macs as much as it does because they?ve been convinced by its sharp wit and cutting edge logic
Go compare your megahurtz cock measurements somewhere else, troll
My IIci with a 68040 upgrade card in it (running at 80MHz) is far more reliable. I haven't had to reboot that thing for a month now. The only more reliable machine I have ever had the pleasure to use was a Linux machine.
[...]
</strong><hr></blockquote>
You, sir, rock. A IIci! I retired mine eons ago (in dog years) when it was taking +15 minutes to open Photoshop files. It makes we want to look for my ][gs.
If there's a marketing advantage for Apple to flaunt megahurts goodness, they will (see old Intel snail ad, Toasted Bunnyman, etc.). The G4 supercomputer advertisement was in the same (verrucous) vein.
Now that it's no longer true (megahertzically speaking), Apple has to look elsewhere to tout their hardware.
The day Motorola gets off their proverbial duff (not the beer, the lifeblood of Bayern, although I wouldn't be surprised) and challenges Intel and AMD on clock speed, Apple can't mention it. Heck, even that µc powerhouse <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23469.html"; target="_blank">VIA</a> beats Motorola. (Is Heath still around? They may have passed Mot as well.) All Apple can do right now is mitigate the perceived differences.
Thus, the de-emphasis of der Mikrokontroller, mein Herr. At least, temporarily, until the right before the sun goes supernova or someone applies a tourniquet on Motorola.
Excactly where has Intel marketed product based on a Mhz number?
What ad? What commercial? What public statement?
Intel has actually made a public statement saying MHZ does not equal performance. <hr></blockquote>
Personally, I have better things to do than review Intel's recent ad campaigns, as do you, I suspect. The fact remains that there has been no prominent push in Intel's advertising to promote their performance via, say, iCOMP. And that's their own benchmark!
Actually, I don't have a gripe with Intel about this. Of course they will put their best foot forward. That's what advertising is about.
That said, it is the job of journalists, especially IT journalists, to sort out the facts from the rhetoric. And I have seen precious little of this. Indeed, even in articles that allegedly examine the "megahertz myth", you frequently see the MHz of a processor described as its "speed" -- which tends to undermine the whole message. I have a suspicion that the original copy in many such cases used the term "clockspeed", which was later deleted by overzealous subeditors. But even if this is the case, it should be the journalist's job to educate his or her subeditor on such points.
I don't know what a G-point is, but I'm all for the g-spot!
"Introducing the new PowerMac with the g-spot processor! Never gets a headache! Boots-up quickly-- ready to go in seconds! Specially designed to go with the that purple-helmeted computing warrior, the grape iMac!"
Egad! Not only have I resorted to gutter humor, I've also written a paragraph with only exclamation points! Yikes! Twice!
Comments
<strong>Sure Apple dosen't want to talk mhz! Why should they? Their fastest chip runs at 867 mhz! While intel and amd are running 2200 mhz, 1500 mhz! Does anyone really believe that mhz don't count speech of steve jobs! It's not the mac faithful! It's the mac gullible! Apple computers are just plain slower! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think it's seriously time for you to stop what you've been doing.
and its expensive.
if it weren't for x , apple would be hurting
I have to use a Win2K machine at work. It is a 1.0GHz Athalon machine. Very nice indeed. However I can't tell you the number of times I have to reboot that thing daily. 3 - 4 on a minimum.
My IIci with a 68040 upgrade card in it (running at 80MHz) is far more reliable. I haven't had to reboot that thing for a month now. The only more reliable machine I have ever had the pleasure to use was a Linux machine.
I will be getting an iMac come the expo. And then I will be using OS X because I love it!! I love having the ease of use of a Mac, plus the strength and durability of a Unix machine.
It is a Good time to be an Apple fan.
<strong>
I couldn't of said it better myself!!!!!!!!!
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
The sad thing is you really couldn't have said it any better yourself.
<strong>Those hippy folks at AMD have recently stopped declaring processor speeds in an attempt to stem the mind tide against Mega/Gigahertz and Intel. So now, if you buy an Athlon, you can get an 1800+, which running at <cough> 1.53GHz </cough>.
So what's the possibility of Steve and Friends dropping the G4 (or G5) from the PowerMac nomenclature? Then they're free to market whatever processor Mot makes up (providing there's still someone in <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23453.html"; target="_blank">their plant</a> to make the things). That could mean an Apollo low end, with a G5 high end. After all, the high end usually comes out weeks after the keynote, giving them time. They've already tried attacking the Megahertz myth, so they could try backing off on marketing the processor altogether. <sarcasm> Everybody already knows they have a supercomputer </sarcasm>. Merthel, quick! Super-duper glue another heat sink on that processor!
And remember, EMC engineers do it until it Megahertz.</strong><hr></blockquote>
And apple folks aren't hippies?, well arguably they are hippies, though steve-o is a yuppie.
-ies
anyways
the g3 and g4 don't tell you the Mhz. number
same as athlon1800
and too stupid people, the 1800 means 1800 mhz, until they ask the sales consultant and he says its only 1.4 or whatver ghz, they say " oh that sucks" and they buy a 2 ghz p4
<strong>
Whatever torll. My 3 year old G4 is still rocking, so is my 3 month old iBook. My wife has no complaints about her 1 1/2 old iMac. The iBook is the exact opposite of being overpriced. The iPod? mm, the HD itself costs $300+. Outdated the day it ships? And I suppose it taking 3 years for PCs to elimibate the floppy is out-dated?
You face the facts, if you have a problem with Mac then go snatch your self a state of the art PC and cry before you even get home because the peice of shit is outdated the HOUR AFTER YOU BOUGHT IT.</strong><hr></blockquote>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
<strong>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
Its more like, People that post on how apple sucks with either incorrect information or incomplete information, likewise, coming off to the world as simply puting a company down for no reason, just as people would defend putting a person down for no reason, you have to understand that people here are loyal to apple and they all like to brag about how much knowledge they have, so when someone posts ignorant rants(or half ignorant, or whatever) they take the oppurtunity to strike. Or course this isn't always the case, dumb posts or posts that are a waste of peoples time and patience, are troll posts, if you don't like the way things work with the people here, there isn't much you can do because they are a mostly diverse group and it is often a great challenge to change a large groupd of peoples opinion on a cross internet accepted definition of trolling.
I hope I made sense and cleared things up a bit for you, if not then, I'm sorry I couldn't be more of a help, but one thing I should definatly add is
chill out, its only the internet!
-wr
<strong>
Its more like, People that post on how apple sucks with either incorrect information or incomplete information, likewise, coming off to the world as simply puting a company down for no reason, just as people would defend putting a person down for no reason, you have to understand that people here are loyal to apple and they all like to brag about how much knowledge they have, so when someone posts ignorant rants(or half ignorant, or whatever) they take the oppurtunity to strike. Or course this isn't always the case, dumb posts or posts that are a waste of peoples time and patience, are troll posts, if you don't like the way things work with the people here, there isn't much you can do because they are a mostly diverse group and it is often a great challenge to change a large groupd of peoples opinion on a cross internet accepted definition of trolling.
I hope I made sense and cleared things up a bit for you, if not then, I'm sorry I couldn't be more of a help, but one thing I should definatly add is
chill out, its only the internet!
-wr</strong><hr></blockquote>
LOL, thank you!
As the troll said earlier-
[quote] I couldn't of said it better myself!!!!!!!!!
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <hr></blockquote>
<strong>Sure Apple dosen't want to talk mhz! Why should they? Their fastest chip runs at 867 mhz! While intel and amd are running 2200 mhz, 1500 mhz! Does anyone really believe that mhz don't count speech of steve jobs! It's not the mac faithful! It's the mac gullible! Apple computers are just plain slower! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> x 4 </strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]
Originally posted by Renan:
Well....lets get real smart.
-troll snippage-
<strong>
Originally posted by rbald:
I couldn't of said it better myself!!!!!!!!!
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> x4 </strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>Me thinks Renan and rbald are the same troll.</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by rbald:
<strong>Any one who dosen't kiss apple's butt in these threads is a troll to you! What a simple mind you have!!!!!
What a simple mind rbald has... a simplicity that is mulitplied by the fact that it thinks any Mac user on these boards could be simpleminded enough to starting hating Macs as much as it does because they?ve been convinced by its sharp wit and cutting edge logic
Go compare your megahurtz cock measurements somewhere else, troll
<strong>
[...]
My IIci with a 68040 upgrade card in it (running at 80MHz) is far more reliable. I haven't had to reboot that thing for a month now. The only more reliable machine I have ever had the pleasure to use was a Linux machine.
[...]
</strong><hr></blockquote>
You, sir, rock. A IIci! I retired mine eons ago (in dog years) when it was taking +15 minutes to open Photoshop files. It makes we want to look for my ][gs.
If there's a marketing advantage for Apple to flaunt megahurts goodness, they will (see old Intel snail ad, Toasted Bunnyman, etc.). The G4 supercomputer advertisement was in the same (verrucous) vein.
Now that it's no longer true (megahertzically speaking), Apple has to look elsewhere to tout their hardware.
The day Motorola gets off their proverbial duff (not the beer, the lifeblood of Bayern, although I wouldn't be surprised) and challenges Intel and AMD on clock speed, Apple can't mention it. Heck, even that µc powerhouse <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/23469.html"; target="_blank">VIA</a> beats Motorola. (Is Heath still around? They may have passed Mot as well.) All Apple can do right now is mitigate the perceived differences.
Thus, the de-emphasis of der Mikrokontroller, mein Herr. At least, temporarily, until the right before the sun goes supernova or someone applies a tourniquet on Motorola.
<strong>
...the whole G thing seems old now.</strong><hr></blockquote>
NO!!! The concept of G-points never gets old!
[ 12-20-2001: Message edited by: Gulliver ]</p>
[quote] Okay.
Excactly where has Intel marketed product based on a Mhz number?
What ad? What commercial? What public statement?
Intel has actually made a public statement saying MHZ does not equal performance. <hr></blockquote>
Personally, I have better things to do than review Intel's recent ad campaigns, as do you, I suspect. The fact remains that there has been no prominent push in Intel's advertising to promote their performance via, say, iCOMP. And that's their own benchmark!
Actually, I don't have a gripe with Intel about this. Of course they will put their best foot forward. That's what advertising is about.
That said, it is the job of journalists, especially IT journalists, to sort out the facts from the rhetoric. And I have seen precious little of this. Indeed, even in articles that allegedly examine the "megahertz myth", you frequently see the MHz of a processor described as its "speed" -- which tends to undermine the whole message. I have a suspicion that the original copy in many such cases used the term "clockspeed", which was later deleted by overzealous subeditors. But even if this is the case, it should be the journalist's job to educate his or her subeditor on such points.
Are we happy now?
<strong>
NO!!! The concept of G-points never gets old!
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know what a G-point is, but I'm all for the g-spot!
"Introducing the new PowerMac with the g-spot processor! Never gets a headache! Boots-up quickly-- ready to go in seconds! Specially designed to go with the that purple-helmeted computing warrior, the grape iMac!"
Egad! Not only have I resorted to gutter humor, I've also written a paragraph with only exclamation points! Yikes! Twice!