I hope they change it to something modifyable, with the option to set it totally off. The startup-sound is something that annoy me alot, and has done since the days of the Performa 5400 (*shrugs*, 4-5 crashes pr. day). It doesn't serve me any purpose.
In addition, it's actually embarrasing when on LAN-parties and the PC guys hear me rebooting the mac (which is, obviously, not very often). "You rebooting your mac, Zappy? I didn't think you have to reboot your mac, since it is as you say, more stable than our PC's, and I haven't rebooted yet <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> . Blablabla etc. and ->" Yes, I know I should ignore him easily, but it's still annoying and embarrasing so some extent.
<strong>). It doesn't serve me any purpose.</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....
If they would set the default volume to something that does not announce to everyone in a ten mile radius that the Mac booted successfully, I would be happy.
After that, as Paul says, the startup chime is there to announce that the machine is starting up, which is useful (Apple has used different startup chimes for errors, too - one Mac had a sample of a car crash to signal a hardware failure!). I don't really care what it sounds like, as long as it's not the wussy tinkling that comes out of PCs running Windows.
yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....</strong><hr></blockquote>
You are correct sir! But couldn't the same information be conveyed by an LED display or similar? I too get tired of hearing the chime and when system volume is set high it can blow you away. If we must have a chime give us separte control of it's sound level so when we do restart we can keep it to ourselves.
yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, I am aware of this, but as DaeargiMan says, something else can serve the same purpose, like an LED display or similiar. I don't really want an ugly LED display to ruin the face of my mac, so I think maybe the powerbutton-diode can do the same job, by perhaps flashing, or fading once or twice. As long as the something else-thing doesn't make a sound/noise, I'm satisfied (well, not if Apple implement something really stupid, but I know they won't).
come on Apple should be creative like they were in the '80s and early '90s, the NuBus Power Macs had a unique sound, after the PCI power mac came out the sounds were all the except for the TAM.
<strong>One favourite trick in our office is to turn the volume fully up, then shutdown the Mac.
Not too bad you might think?
But this Mac happens to have an iSub and soundsticks connected!
First thing in a morning... BOOM!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thats great!
EDIT: [on topic now] Why fix something thats not broken? Nothing wrong with the startup chime now, although its almost the only thing left from OS 9 after the happy mac went.
I used to be able to tell which model of Mac was starting up just from hearing its startup chime. Has this changed? Is there no longer a distinct sound for each major model revision?
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In addition, it's actually embarrasing when on LAN-parties and the PC guys hear me rebooting the mac (which is, obviously, not very often). "You rebooting your mac, Zappy? I didn't think you have to reboot your mac, since it is as you say, more stable than our PC's, and I haven't rebooted yet <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> . Blablabla etc. and ->" Yes, I know I should ignore him easily, but it's still annoying and embarrasing so some extent.
<strong>). It doesn't serve me any purpose.</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....
After that, as Paul says, the startup chime is there to announce that the machine is starting up, which is useful (Apple has used different startup chimes for errors, too - one Mac had a sample of a car crash to signal a hardware failure!). I don't really care what it sounds like, as long as it's not the wussy tinkling that comes out of PCs running Windows.
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yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....</strong><hr></blockquote>
You are correct sir! But couldn't the same information be conveyed by an LED display or similar? I too get tired of hearing the chime and when system volume is set high it can blow you away. If we must have a chime give us separte control of it's sound level so when we do restart we can keep it to ourselves.
"I want to love you but I'm getting blown away."
Neil Young
Not too bad you might think?
But this Mac happens to have an iSub and soundsticks connected!
First thing in a morning... BOOM!!!!
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yes it does... sometimes when you are having trouble with your computer, you are not sure if it is starting up or not. the chime is a good indication of this and a good place to base troubleshooting information on (5 seconds after the chime it locks up... etc...)
w/o the chime it can be hard to even tell if the computer is powering on correctly and if the problem is with the power supply or the hard drive/mobo/etc....</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yep, I am aware of this, but as DaeargiMan says, something else can serve the same purpose, like an LED display or similiar. I don't really want an ugly LED display to ruin the face of my mac, so I think maybe the powerbutton-diode can do the same job, by perhaps flashing, or fading once or twice. As long as the something else-thing doesn't make a sound/noise, I'm satisfied (well, not if Apple implement something really stupid, but I know they won't).
<strong>One favourite trick in our office is to turn the volume fully up, then shutdown the Mac.
Not too bad you might think?
But this Mac happens to have an iSub and soundsticks connected!
First thing in a morning... BOOM!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thats great!
EDIT: [on topic now] Why fix something thats not broken? Nothing wrong with the startup chime now, although its almost the only thing left from OS 9 after the happy mac went.
[ 01-01-2003: Message edited by: Spiffster ]</p>
Time for something a little more space age, and less hippy.
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First thing in a morning... BOOM!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have a class where the prof always uses the powermac in the hall for powerpoint, etc.
Usually its already up and running when our class starts but one day he had to start it up...
Of course the PA system was already up and running and 400 tired students had their lives significantly shortened by that BOOMING startup.