when the Ti15" PB moves to the Ai15" PB will it get....

thegelding · January 9, 2003 4:52PM

the fancy keyboard? FW800? Ports on the side??

and will we see a 12"Special Edition PB with the above features?? will they come with Rev B or Rev C or will they try and keep the fancy stuff on the 17" lapzilla only?

g

since i don't NEED a computer right now, i am TRYING to hold off buying till revision b of the 12" PB....maybe i can, maybe i can't...only time will tell....but if a Spec Editon of the 12" appeared shortly i would quickly lose the little will power i have....

mania · January 9, 2003 5:05PM

if you look on apple store you can get some hints

so i predict

12" AL 867

15" AL 867

15" AL 1000 backlit

17" AL 1000 backlit

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horned_frog · January 9, 2003 5:31PM

I don't think they'd have another revision without bumping the Mhz.

ast3r3x · January 9, 2003 7:34PM

[quote]Originally posted by Horned_Frog:

I don't think they'd have another revision without bumping the Mhz.<hr></blockquote>

hey, they just did now and noone complained, even if it was 3months or so that they updated them, its not too soon for another rev, they are holding out i suppose, for 1.25 next revision

luca · January 9, 2003 8:03PM

Whatever happens, SOMEBODY will be unhappy. They have to get the PowerBook revisions in sync with each other to prevent what's going on now (the 15" models looking unattractive compared to the rest). So they're either going to update the 12" and 17" models within a few months, making early adopters disappointed, or they'll take way too long to update the 15" model. Otherwise they'll be out of sync and it'll be pretty sucky.

paul · January 9, 2003 11:59PM

I'd say the 15" are fine for the time being... look kinda odd, but im sure they will still sell...

in august/sept I'd expect an update:

new case, new hinge, ApE, BT, 1FW2 (one reg also), 2USB2

light up keyboard stays with lapzilla (for this rev anyway)

luca · January 10, 2003 12:23AM

August or September? I think it'll be a lot earlier than that... that would be nearly a year for an update. Apple might let their consumer lines stagnate, but not the Pro lines.

fuzz_ball · January 10, 2003 2:06AM

[quote]Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:

... that would be nearly a year for an update. Apple might let their consumer lines stagnate, but not the Pro lines.<hr></blockquote>

Umm, I guess you haven't looked at the PowerMacs in a while?

Disclaimer: Yes, I know the PMs were updated not long ago, but I was referring to the "stagnation" comment; many people feel the PMs are a bit long-in-the-tooth...

[ 01-10-2003: Message edited by: fuzz_ball ]

xool · January 10, 2003 3:16AM

Remember what Apple promised with respect to towers. They will sell an OS 9 bootable machine until July. Who thinks the holdover model is just the laptop equivalent?

brunobruin · January 10, 2003 7:50AM

Apple's history with the Ti seems to have been a speed bump, followed by a more serious revision, followed by a speed bump, and obviously the next revision should see some of the features of the 17-inch come to the 15s. If that happens in, say, four months, the new (12/17) models could get a speed bump at that time, bringing all three models into line for the next revision. But is that too early to revise the new 12/17s, since many folks who have ordered won't even get theirs for another month? or will they revise the Tis in three months and then leave everything alone for six more months? (Remember, the first rev of the Ti came nine months after introduction.)

I would really like a 12 with DVI-out, but I'm betting it won't happen until the second revision, at least a year from now.

g-news · January 10, 2003 7:54AM

make that:

1GHz Al 12"

1GHZ Al 15.2"

1.2GHz Al 15.2"

1.2GHz Al 17"

release date sometime in early summer.

G-News

addison · January 10, 2003 8:06AM

I think you are bang on G-News.

ashman · January 10, 2003 10:37AM

1 GHz Al 12"

1 GHz Al 15"

1.2 GHz Al 15"

IBM 970 Al 17" w/new 4X superdrive and next gen graphics

kidred · January 10, 2003 1:14PM

Why are there a few threads with people calling the AL powerbook, the Ai powerbook? Where's this 'i' coming from? It is AL or Al right, for ALuminum?

kneelbeforezod · January 10, 2003 1:39PM

On the periodic table it's 'Al' - AlBook doesn't have quite the same ring as TiBook though...

[ 01-10-2003: Message edited by: kneelbeforezod ]

bunge · January 10, 2003 2:42PM

[quote]Originally posted by kneelbeforezod:

AlBook doesn't have quite the same ring as TiBook though...<hr></blockquote>

While I agree, it's certainly better than "Al", as in "Albert".

visigothe · January 10, 2003 5:27PM

[quote]Originally posted by bunge:



While I agree, it's certainly better than "Al", as in "Albert".<hr></blockquote>

It's not the AlBook.... it's BookZilla! ...aty least the 17" anyway

flow flow · January 10, 2003 6:06PM

I gots to go with G-News on this one. The 12" MIGHT get a memory update, 256Mb soldered by default. The 15" and the 17" will be identical in all aspects. Apple MAY just offer the 17" with the highest processor only. Don't expect a PC slot, lighted keyboard on the 12". But, does Firewire800 make it's appearance there, or just a single FW port like now?

thegelding · January 10, 2003 6:14PM

i think it will get one firewire port like now, except it will be a fw800 with a adapter to work with fw400.....and i am gonna show my utter ignorance here (never have owned a tower or pro machine)....what do you do with the pc slot?? is this a big selling point of the 17"??

what i would like (and expect) on the rev b 12"...256mb of ram on board with open slot....up the graphics to the same card in the 17" (they can up the 17" to the next step up to keep the difference)....FW800....1 gig with 167 bus

what i would love to also have is: removiable graphics card, lighted keyboard (i am a slut for those kind of things)....maybe a pc slot if you guys can tell me why i would want it....

g

paul · January 10, 2003 8:26PM

I had no use for a PC card slot when I got my Ti, now I use my PC card slot for a CF adapter ($15) so I dont have to carry around an adapter for my digital camera (IMHO CF slots should become standard on computers, like floppies)

but mainly it is there to make sure you can expand the computer... IE: F/W 800/1600/3200(they are coming!) and/or USB2 cards or 802.11g cards

might not be important right now but 2 years down the road, they can save your ass (relatively speaking)

matsu · January 10, 2003 9:01PM

All the powerbooks should have a cardbus slot, including the 12, you never know what will emerge and how long you'll want to keep your machine.

when the Ti15" PB moves to the Ai15" PB will it get....

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