I am gonna say the only reason a 15" didn't bow as because of the recent speed bumps.
Expect the 15 to get a rev when the iBooks get one mid-Spring. The 15 will be almost identical to the 17 featurewise. We may see a speed bump option at that time as well.
The line may look something like this:
PB 12 - 867 or 933
PB 15 - 933 / 1.2
PB 17 - 1.0/1.2
Don't doubt for a second that AL15's exist. There is no reason at all why there wouldn't be. Watch for AL15 models to be sparse starting in 6 weeks.
Following a spring update will be a traditional Fall update. To what scope, who can say?
i was just at a retailer in Tokyo (BIC-camera) and was surprised to see the Ti-G4 1Ghz discounted...wtf, I have never in my life (in japan) has ever seen an apple/mac product discounted unless an update was coming within a month.
So I asked the Mac-expert (they wear black-shirts with a white apple-logo here) and all I got was a *wink*
<strong>Why are there a few threads with people calling the AL powerbook, the Ai powerbook? Where's this 'i' coming from? It is AL or Al right, for ALuminum?</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Ai PowerBook is the "i-want"-PowerBook of Ai (AppleInsider) !!!
<strong>I am gonna say the only reason a 15" didn't bow as because of the recent speed bumps.
Expect the 15 to get a rev when the iBooks get one mid-Spring.The line may look something like this:
PB 12 - 867 or 933
PB 15 - 933 / 1.2
PB 17 - 1.0/1.2
make that:
1GHz Al 12"
1GHZ Al 15.2"
1.2GHz Al 15.2"
1.2GHz Al 17"
release date sometime in early summer.
G-News
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't be too surprised if the PowerBooks and iBooks all received speed bumps at the same time.
I think G-News' predictions are on-target, but I think they'll happen sooner. Apple may want to prove that it's taking a new, unorthodox schedule for upgrading its computers. So instead of early summer,I say late April/May.
That way the PB 15" will catch up cosmetically along with a speed bump, the 12" and 17" will receive equivalent speed bumps, and even the iBooks will maybe top out at 1Ghz G3.
I recently got mine on Dec 30 man I wish I would have waited, but I had no clue they were coming out with new ones since they just updated them. If they updated the 15 with airport extreme and bluetooth, and all the xtra's I'd be really pO'd but I'm still upset and outta 200$ But this is my first mac thats truly all mine. So I'm happy
The 15 is gonna get the case enhancements of the 17, but it won't get the CPU updates.
Shortly after the powermacs get a PPC970, the 17" PB is going to become the "only superthin 6.8lb, 17" widescreen 64 bit supercomputer, you're gonna so want one" (or something like that) The 15 and 12 will make do with nice cool (and petty fast, 1.4-2Ghz) FSB liberated G4's for a little while, they won't see a 970 untill it moves to .09u. at least a year later.
You're mad: why wait for the 15" Ai book? Titanium has more tensile strength than aluminium and is a hell of a lot more expensive for a variety of reasons. The whole aluminium ethos is NOT an upgrade - it's a cost cutting measure. Aluminium is prone to fissures, sudden fatigue, discolouration and all kinds of other nasty things which Ti is immune to. Don't believe the hype. The only good reasons to buy an Ai book are already available in the 12" and 17" versions" : size, bluetooth (if you think you really need it...) and airport extreme, but massive overhauls these ain't.
<strong> The only good reasons to buy an Ai book are already available in the 12" and 17" versions" : size, bluetooth (if you think you really need it...) and airport extreme, but massive overhauls these ain't.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>You're mad: why wait for the 15" Ai book? Titanium has more tensile strength than aluminium and is a hell of a lot more expensive for a variety of reasons. The whole aluminium ethos is NOT an upgrade - it's a cost cutting measure. Aluminium is prone to fissures, sudden fatigue, discolouration and all kinds of other nasty things which Ti is immune to. Don't believe the hype. The only good reasons to buy an Ai book are already available in the 12" and 17" versions" : size, bluetooth (if you think you really need it...) and airport extreme, but massive overhauls these ain't.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Funny then that there are all these problems with the Titanium cases. I guess the people with flexing, dented cases and flaking or bubbling paint haven't heard how superior Titanium is.
For what it's worth, everything I have read about the Aluminum in the new powerbooks points to it being much superior to the Titanium. Take this entry from Macintouch:
[quote]As an architect who specifies finishes for building components that are designed to last through millions of cycles of use over decades of time, I am familiar with an array of finishes. Based on my experience, the clear hard anodized aluminum finish that Apple is using on the exterior of the new PowerBooks is by far the toughest of the various finishes Apple has used on its portable computers. Compared to hard grey or black plastic, rubberized plastic, back painted clear polycarbonate, or pure titanium, the clear hard anodized aluminum will resist very well deterioration and scratching from normal use. As a finish it is superior in its resistance to wear than any painted finish. The anodizing process produces a thin but very hard coat of aluminum oxide on the outside surface. The aluminum oxide is extremely hard and bonds very strongly to the underlying aluminum. Indeed, aluminum oxide is extensively used as an industrial and consumer abrasive.
The "clear" designation indicates that trace elements were not added to the process that would color the aluminum oxide coating. As such, the result is a natural aluminum color. A fairly broad array of colors can be created, including golds, blues, greens, reds, darker greys, and blacks. A prominent example of a product with an anodized finish is the Palm V series PDA. After 2 1/2 years of daily use and transport without a case, my anodized blue Palm Vx finish shows no wear whatsoever. What this means is that two or three years out the exterior finish on the 12 and 17" PowerBooks will look like new. <hr></blockquote>
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Expect the 15 to get a rev when the iBooks get one mid-Spring. The 15 will be almost identical to the 17 featurewise. We may see a speed bump option at that time as well.
The line may look something like this:
PB 12 - 867 or 933
PB 15 - 933 / 1.2
PB 17 - 1.0/1.2
Don't doubt for a second that AL15's exist. There is no reason at all why there wouldn't be. Watch for AL15 models to be sparse starting in 6 weeks.
Following a spring update will be a traditional Fall update. To what scope, who can say?
So I asked the Mac-expert (they wear black-shirts with a white apple-logo here) and all I got was a *wink*
mmm...
<strong>Why are there a few threads with people calling the AL powerbook, the Ai powerbook? Where's this 'i' coming from? It is AL or Al right, for ALuminum?</strong><hr></blockquote>
The Ai PowerBook is the "i-want"-PowerBook of Ai (AppleInsider) !!!
<strong>I am gonna say the only reason a 15" didn't bow as because of the recent speed bumps.
Expect the 15 to get a rev when the iBooks get one mid-Spring.The line may look something like this:
PB 12 - 867 or 933
PB 15 - 933 / 1.2
PB 17 - 1.0/1.2
make that:
1GHz Al 12"
1GHZ Al 15.2"
1.2GHz Al 15.2"
1.2GHz Al 17"
release date sometime in early summer.
G-News
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wouldn't be too surprised if the PowerBooks and iBooks all received speed bumps at the same time.
I think G-News' predictions are on-target, but I think they'll happen sooner. Apple may want to prove that it's taking a new, unorthodox schedule for upgrading its computers. So instead of early summer,I say late April/May.
That way the PB 15" will catch up cosmetically along with a speed bump, the 12" and 17" will receive equivalent speed bumps, and even the iBooks will maybe top out at 1Ghz G3.
But no lit keyboard for the 12".
[ 01-11-2003: Message edited by: arnette ]</p>
[Al]uminum [Po]wer[Book]
AlPoBook
though I admit, it doesn't really have the marketing ring to it that "LapZilla" or "Fat AlBook", I like AlPoBook better.
and AlPoPuppyBook for the 12"
The 15 is gonna get the case enhancements of the 17, but it won't get the CPU updates.
Shortly after the powermacs get a PPC970, the 17" PB is going to become the "only superthin 6.8lb, 17" widescreen 64 bit supercomputer, you're gonna so want one" (or something like that) The 15 and 12 will make do with nice cool (and petty fast, 1.4-2Ghz) FSB liberated G4's for a little while, they won't see a 970 untill it moves to .09u. at least a year later.
of the tibook?
400/500 - januar 2001
550/667 -
550/667 combo -
667/800 dvi -
887/1000 superdrive -
maybe a hint with that?
<strong> The only good reasons to buy an Ai book are already available in the 12" and 17" versions" : size, bluetooth (if you think you really need it...) and airport extreme, but massive overhauls these ain't.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You forgot airport range.
<strong>You're mad: why wait for the 15" Ai book? Titanium has more tensile strength than aluminium and is a hell of a lot more expensive for a variety of reasons. The whole aluminium ethos is NOT an upgrade - it's a cost cutting measure. Aluminium is prone to fissures, sudden fatigue, discolouration and all kinds of other nasty things which Ti is immune to. Don't believe the hype. The only good reasons to buy an Ai book are already available in the 12" and 17" versions" : size, bluetooth (if you think you really need it...) and airport extreme, but massive overhauls these ain't.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Funny then that there are all these problems with the Titanium cases. I guess the people with flexing, dented cases and flaking or bubbling paint haven't heard how superior Titanium is.
For what it's worth, everything I have read about the Aluminum in the new powerbooks points to it being much superior to the Titanium. Take this entry from Macintouch:
[quote]As an architect who specifies finishes for building components that are designed to last through millions of cycles of use over decades of time, I am familiar with an array of finishes. Based on my experience, the clear hard anodized aluminum finish that Apple is using on the exterior of the new PowerBooks is by far the toughest of the various finishes Apple has used on its portable computers. Compared to hard grey or black plastic, rubberized plastic, back painted clear polycarbonate, or pure titanium, the clear hard anodized aluminum will resist very well deterioration and scratching from normal use. As a finish it is superior in its resistance to wear than any painted finish. The anodizing process produces a thin but very hard coat of aluminum oxide on the outside surface. The aluminum oxide is extremely hard and bonds very strongly to the underlying aluminum. Indeed, aluminum oxide is extensively used as an industrial and consumer abrasive.
The "clear" designation indicates that trace elements were not added to the process that would color the aluminum oxide coating. As such, the result is a natural aluminum color. A fairly broad array of colors can be created, including golds, blues, greens, reds, darker greys, and blacks. A prominent example of a product with an anodized finish is the Palm V series PDA. After 2 1/2 years of daily use and transport without a case, my anodized blue Palm Vx finish shows no wear whatsoever. What this means is that two or three years out the exterior finish on the 12 and 17" PowerBooks will look like new. <hr></blockquote>