"You need Windows Media Player"
Do I really? I mean, why can't all plugins be put into iTunes or Quicktime so that I don't have to download Real, WMP, and others just to get stuff that I want. Sirius satellite radio has a way I can listen to the radio on my computer, but guess what; I need WMP. Please tell me there's a better way around all of this!
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Maybe I'm just screwed. Go figure.
Originally posted by iShawn
Do I really? I mean, why can't all plugins be put into iTunes or Quicktime so that I don't have to download Real, WMP, and others just to get stuff that I want. Sirius satellite radio has a way I can listen to the radio on my computer, but guess what; I need WMP. Please tell me there's a better way around all of this!
The three are all proprietary competing formats from companies that want their format to win. None of them has any interest in giving in to their competitors... and thus there is no chance that it is going to happen any time soon.
Originally posted by Karl Kuehn
The three are all proprietary competing formats from companies that want their format to win. None of them has any interest in giving in to their competitors... and thus there is no chance that it is going to happen any time soon.
QuickTime MPEG-4 is *not* proprietary.
Originally posted by Chucker
QuickTime MPEG-4 is *not* proprietary.
a) it is MPEG 4, you do not need the word Quicktime... that is the name of the implementation, and the implementation is proprietary, owned (presumably) by Apple. The standard is owned by the MPEG (last letter is for group)... and we could have an interesting conversation about whether that makes it proprietary... it all hinges on the definition of that word.
b) MPEG 4 is only one of the many codecs that all three of the big three of audio/video have under their belts... and happens to be a common one. How is this relevant to the conversation? Do you see Sorenson in WMP? Real in QuickTime? WM9 DRM in Real/Helix?
Originally posted by Karl Kuehn
a) it is MPEG 4, you do not need the word Quicktime... that is the name of the implementation, and the implementation is proprietary, owned (presumably) by Apple. The standard is owned by the MPEG (last letter is for group)... and we could have an interesting conversation about whether that makes it proprietary... it all hinges on the definition of that word.
b) MPEG 4 is only one of the many codecs that all three of the big three of audio/video have under their belts... and happens to be a common one. How is this relevant to the conversation? Do you see Sorenson in WMP? Real in QuickTime? WM9 DRM in Real/Helix?
MPEG 4 is not a codec. MPEG 4 is a media format standard. Several developers support MPEG 4 with their codecs. On the Mac and Windows, for example, MPEG 4 codecs are available from Apple and from 3ivx.
Originally posted by iShawn
If it helps any, the specific problem that Safari says to me is that I need a plugin specified as "MIME type ?application/x-mplayer2" ...
Might this be what Safari is really looking for?
Originally posted by Thorzdad
Might this be what Safari is really looking for?
No, it is not.
Originally posted by xmoger
On the PC there are Real and Quicktime media plugins. So you can play all the formats in 1 player (at fullscreen
I LOVE those programs. Man, why can't we have something like that?