Upcoming Widescreen Desktop Displays From Apple

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  • Reply 21 of 100
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    [quote]Originally posted by Clive:

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    I think you'll change your mind if you see the LaCie/NEC-Mitsubishi 1600*1200.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Got a url? I couldn't find anything 1600x1200 and I could find anything that wasn't black, square and ugly.
  • Reply 22 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    [quote]Originally posted by KidRed:

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    Got a url? I couldn't find anything 1600x1200 and I could find anything that wasn't black, square and ugly.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    The LaCie is dark blue, the NEC/Mitsubishi version is available in black or silver (I think they may call it "aluminium").



    Your post make me believe you think the Apple LCDs cases are attractive? IMO they are ugly as sin.



    But besides that, I'll take functionality (height adjustment, better tilt adjustment, pivot, higher res, desk clamp/arm mounting option...) over "beauty" any time.



    The Apple monitors just aren't as competitive as they were 2 years ago, or even 6 months ago.
  • Reply 23 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    [quote]Originally posted by KidRed:

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    You analogy is incorrect. Your analogy would relate to Apple by saying 'buy an Apple HD to put inside the tower' in which case, people buy whatever internals they want.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Your analysis of my analogy is incorrect. The analogy is: just buy the brand, don't worry about what you get, or that you can even get it at all.



    But anyway, since you want to focus on things that are outside the "shell" and visible (I take it that's your point?):



    Go buy some GM tyres for your car.



    Ok now?
  • Reply 24 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    [quote]Originally posted by Rhumgod:

    <strong> NEC/Mitsubishi is the only one I'd buy but their specs are just plain lowsy!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    In what way are their specs lousy?
  • Reply 25 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    Someone give those poor saps at MacOS Rumors a clue:

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    The 15.4-inch panel will be used in the next generation of mid-range Powerbook G4s, due out in February as soon as supplies of the existing models run out. It will sport a 1280x800 pixel resolution, and should both offer significantly lower cost as well as dramatically improved image quality over existing 15.1-inch displays used in existing TiBooks.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Mid-range PowerBooks, 15" - they mean the Ti, right? Uh, well the current Ti has a 15" screen with a resolution of 1280*854, so Apple is going to cut the res!?
  • Reply 26 of 100
    jcgjcg Posts: 777member
    I might be mistaken here, but I blieve that all LCD monitors are digital monitors natively. The Analog LCD's have A/D converters to allow them to hook up to VGA boards. Apple offers only one input on their monitors, ADC, which is a digital connection which does not need the extra circutry to convert the analog signal to digital. A quick search of the Web shows a Sony 20" 1600X1200 LCD with ConnectorstAudio - Line In, Audio - Line Out, USB - Universal Serial Bus, Video - 15 pin High-Density D-shell (VGA), Video - 24 pin DVI-D for $1599. Since Appple's offerings have neither speakers, or the A/D converter and VGA connectory, and the Sony does have a USB Hub, Apple should at least be able to match Sony's price and maintain a healthy margine. It would make sense that they could actually beat Sony's price and still make money if they really wanted to.



    <a href="http://macworld.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs.php?masterid=611215&ut=436216b445 ff5339&tab_id=1" target="_blank">http://macworld.pricegrabber.com/search_techspecs.php?masterid=611215&ut=436216b445 ff5339&tab_id=1</a>



    [ 01-23-2003: Message edited by: JCG ]</p>
  • Reply 27 of 100
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    [quote]Originally posted by Clive:

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    Your analysis of my analogy is incorrect. The analogy is: just buy the brand, don't worry about what you get, or that you can even get it at all.



    But anyway, since you want to focus on things that are outside the "shell" and visible (I take it that's your point?):



    Go buy some GM tyres for your car.



    Ok now?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    No, because tires are part of the car and not a seperate device or apparatus. Now if you had a black Honda Prelude, maybe you'd want to get a Black Honda ATC.



    As for Apple LCDs, yes, I (and many others) believe they are simply breathtaking as well as quality. I've had my cinema display for a year now and it simply rocks, not to mention gorgeous sitting next to my dual gig QS. Cheaper is fine if you only want what the product delivers, I will, however, pay a little more for it to look good not only stand alone but when paired with the tower.



    Personal preferences.
  • Reply 28 of 100
    More info from the ALWAYS reliable MOSR:



    "On a more positive note, further recon from the source who provided the basis for our last Apple Display update indicates that the new 20.1-inch Cinema Display will probably sport a much narrower border than current models, making it a very compact and attractive package. In fact, the display border on this new model could be as little as one inch -- less than half of what is seen on today's Cinemas."



    Here's hoping....



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    RosettaStoned
  • Reply 29 of 100
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    You'd think VGA would be available on any new Apple display, given both the iBook and the 12" Powerbook lack direct ADC output.

    Do you know how many G4PB owners will want to span their small 12" display across a 17" widescreen?



    What's interesting is how they will make these display both ergonomic, adjustable like the FP iMac and sturdy like their current displays, all in one package.
  • Reply 30 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    [quote]Originally posted by KidRed:

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    No, because tires are part of the car and not a seperate device or apparatus. Now if you had a black Honda Prelude, maybe you'd want to get a Black Honda ATC.



    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    The phrase "you're off your head" comes to mind. Right above you're going on about how someone can choose whatever internal drives they like - are the not "part of the car"?



    [quote]Originally posted by KidRed:

    <strong>As for Apple LCDs, yes, I (and many others) believe they are simply breathtaking as well as quality. I've had my cinema display for a year now and it simply rocks, not to mention gorgeous sitting next to my dual gig QS. Cheaper is fine if you only want what the product delivers, I will, however, pay a little more for it to look good not only stand alone but when paired with the tower.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well, in my opinion the current "wind tunnel" G4 is one of the ugliest Macs ever, and the "cyclops" quicksilver isnt much better.



    Your analysis of the Apple LCDs is simply outdated. A year, or even six months ago, you would have been right - but feature-wise the Apple screens just don't deliver.



    I don't think they even look that great - the earlier 15" LCD was a much better looking device than the "perspex", over-sized transparency thing they've got going now. Jonathan Ive seems to have gotten lost in his 70s childhood (fake plastic "chrome" belongs on 60s muscle cars and children's toys).



    Looks count for something, which is why I noted the LaCie monitors, but the features alone on a whole range of competing monitors just kill off Apple's previous advantage. 1600*1200 20" screens are currently around $1,600-1,700, while Apple's 22" is a little bigger it's actually lower resolution (and that's the only game that counts) at 1600*1024, besides this the price is $2,500, for what is, in effect, an inferior product.



    In addition I've always thought the Apple Display Connector was a *really* bad idea - they can't even support it in all their own machines! They should have made it optional, ie the display could take a "standard" input and had a separate (like the Cube) power supply and USB ports.



    [ 01-24-2003: Message edited by: Clive ]</p>
  • Reply 31 of 100
    MacRumors.com has just posted some new display info:



    Apple LCDs



    An Apple 20.1 inch display is expected with possible prices/specs detailed by MacWhispers. The only true time frame provided has been from Spymac with a discontinuation of the current 22inch "by March".



    So When?



    ThinkSecret has suggested that "iMacs and other hardware" upgrades are tentatively expected the week of February the 3rd.



    A new (and untested) source, however, has claimed that this Tuesday (Jan 28th, 2003) will be the date for the release of everything described above. They also mention a less than $1300 price for the 20.1" LCD and $1799 for the top iMac. As an unconfirmed source, it should be taken as such, and is published for reader interest.



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    Wow, a $1300 20.1" widescreen display! I'll take two!!



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    RosettaStoned
  • Reply 32 of 100
    bartobarto Posts: 2,246member
    It would be nice to have a user ranking system on AI. And a setting to ignore trolls like Clive.



    Barto
  • Reply 33 of 100
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    [quote]Originally posted by RosettaStoned:

    <strong>Wow, a $1300 20.1" widescreen display! I'll take two!!



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    RosettaStoned</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Apple with market-comparable prices... that right there should void that rumor. (But I hope it's true too).



    Screed
  • Reply 34 of 100
    nevynnevyn Posts: 360member
    [quote]Originally posted by Barto:

    <strong>It would be nice to have a user ranking system on AI. And a setting to ignore trolls like Clive.



    Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>



    It's called usenet + killfiles. Unfortunatly it produces more SPAM than Hormel.
  • Reply 35 of 100
    brbr Posts: 8,395member
    [quote]Originally posted by Barto:

    <strong>It would be nice to have a user ranking system on AI. And a setting to ignore trolls like Clive.



    Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Clive isn't a troll. Also, if you are incapable of seeing his name next to a post and ignoring it yourself, you are the idiot.
  • Reply 36 of 100
    bjnybjny Posts: 191member
    [quote]Originally posted by RosettaStoned:

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    A new (and untested) source, however, has claimed that this Tuesday (Jan 28th, 2003) will be the date for the release of everything described above. They also mention a less than $1300 price for the 20.1" LCD and $1799 for the top iMac. As an unconfirmed source, it should be taken as such, and is published for reader interest.

    RosettaStoned</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Where does this appear?
  • Reply 37 of 100
    [quote]Originally posted by Clive:

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    That's the way to think - go buy some GM Petrol for your car!</strong><hr></blockquote>





    OMG...OMG...OMG...



    Class, lets open our Analogy 101 text book to page 1.....



    GM Branded Petrol : GM Branded Automobile :: Apple Branded _________ : Apple Branded Computer



    a) Monitor

    b) Hard Drive

    c) Mouse

    d) Electricity

    e) All of the above



    Pick the best answer.



    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    [ 01-26-2003: Message edited by: mooseman ]</p>
  • Reply 38 of 100
    [quote]Originally posted by BJNY:

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    Where does this appear?</strong><hr></blockquote>





    As I wrote in my message, it's at <a href="http://www.macrumors.com"; target="_blank">http://www.macrumors.com</a>.



    Enjoy!



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    RosettaStoned
  • Reply 39 of 100
    vinney57vinney57 Posts: 1,162member
    An interesting part of the rumours I've heard is that the new monitors will re-instate the height/pan adjustability of the old blue Studio 15" LCD's (in suitable modern silver styling of course).



    This would be great news...Apple sold a shed load of these monitors to the film and TV people because of the styling and the fact they could be mounted to the set. You couldn't watch a TV programme in the UK about two years ago without seeing these monitors everywhere (particularly game shows, Millionaire etc.)



    I don't know if these sales were significant number wise but they sure got the 'Apple Style' out there in front of 'the great unwashed'.
  • Reply 40 of 100
    cliveclive Posts: 720member
    [quote]Originally posted by Barto:

    <strong>It would be nice to have a user ranking system on AI. And a setting to ignore trolls like Clive.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Another wally that can't bear to read the truth - or at least a view different to his own!?
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