"The second movie showed you how much was at stake and really drove home the point that no one was going to be untouched by this war."
And yet you won't let the Shire be touched? I said in my earlier post:
Fair. Then the Scouring of the Shire needs to be a sequel to Lord of the Rings, but I don't think it would work as it's own movie. Very depressing. But, as you can see, what do I know about it?
Edit: I just like how innocent and beautiful the Shire was portrayed in the films. It's sad to think that such things have to end. haha
Don't it always seem to go / That you don't know what you got til it's gone? / They ripped down the Shire and put up a parking lot.
Just thought of something. Maybe they could cram it in the beginning of The Hobbit. But it would kind of through off the beginning of the Hobbit and besides, Christopher Lee would be like...wicked old by then. Mrah. It sucks.
Just thought of something. Maybe they could cram it in the beginning of The Hobbit. But it would kind of through off the beginning of the Hobbit and besides, Christopher Lee would be like...wicked old by then. Mrah. It sucks.
The Hobbit happens before LotR, doesn't it? Isn't the Hobbit based on Bilbo's adventures, which set up Frodo's adventures?
Aquatic, watch the first 10 minutes of The Fellowship of the Ring.
Isildur loses The Ring, Smeagol gets The Ring, Bilbo finds The Ring, Bilbo goes back to The Shire.
And yes, The Hobbit is BEFORE The Lord of the Rings. I could give you a nice dissertation on the history of Middle Earth if you want. (Though I have no particular desire at the moment.)
Oh, BTW, Gandalf has one of the elf-rings, Narya, the Ring of Fire. Which was given him by Cirdan the shipwright at the Havens upon his landing in Middle Earth, because he foresaw his need for it. Talk about a great story, Ring of Fire; Balrog (Valarauko) (Shadow and Flame). There are a million other links and great stories.
Oh yes, Gambit, the Shire is darkened, but it is rebuilt. If you've seen the Extended FOTR, Sam's box that he drops, if you don't mind a small spoiler of the books...
The Great Tree that Bilbo's party was under was cut down (it's been a while, don't hold me to that fact), anyway, Sam goes into a field and plants a new tree with the gift from Galadriel, and it grows fast and strong and beautiful and tall and everything. He also plants new trees all over the Shire, not sure whether he used any of the dust/soil/fertilizer for them though.
They didn't get the ending wrong. As Nebadakid mentioned earlier, the movies are the movies, and the books are the books. They are two different interpretations of the same story, told by two different people: Peter Jackson, and J. R. R. Tolkein. They tell the same story, but do so in different ways.
Peter Jackson also talked about this in one of the extras. They didn't put the Scouring at the end because they had structured the main climax of the trilogy to be the destruction of the ring. It was felt that putting the Scouring at the end would have been anti-climatic. Personally, I think they were right.
Movies are much different mediums than novels are, and are much more constrained by structure, time, and pacing. You can have things happen in novels which might be brilliant in print and don't interrupt the flow of a story, but would absolutlely kill a movie if done in exactly the same way. I think that including the Scouring at the end really would have derailed the pacing and thrown it in a different direction.
Overall, I actually prefer the theatrical release over the extended RotK. I thought that most of the added scenes were exposition, and really didn't add anything to the movie for me. I liked the new scenes with Faramir and Denehtor, and between Faramir and Eowyn, but thought most of the rest just slowed the pacing.
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Originally posted by macserverX
Gambit you said in your post:
"The second movie showed you how much was at stake and really drove home the point that no one was going to be untouched by this war."
And yet you won't let the Shire be touched? I said in my earlier post:
Fair. Then the Scouring of the Shire needs to be a sequel to Lord of the Rings, but I don't think it would work as it's own movie. Very depressing. But, as you can see, what do I know about it?
Edit: I just like how innocent and beautiful the Shire was portrayed in the films. It's sad to think that such things have to end. haha
Don't it always seem to go / That you don't know what you got til it's gone? / They ripped down the Shire and put up a parking lot.
Originally posted by Aquatic
Just thought of something. Maybe they could cram it in the beginning of The Hobbit. But it would kind of through off the beginning of the Hobbit and besides, Christopher Lee would be like...wicked old by then. Mrah. It sucks.
The Hobbit happens before LotR, doesn't it? Isn't the Hobbit based on Bilbo's adventures, which set up Frodo's adventures?
Isildur loses The Ring, Smeagol gets The Ring, Bilbo finds The Ring, Bilbo goes back to The Shire.
And yes, The Hobbit is BEFORE The Lord of the Rings. I could give you a nice dissertation on the history of Middle Earth if you want. (Though I have no particular desire at the moment.)
Oh, BTW, Gandalf has one of the elf-rings, Narya, the Ring of Fire. Which was given him by Cirdan the shipwright at the Havens upon his landing in Middle Earth, because he foresaw his need for it. Talk about a great story, Ring of Fire; Balrog (Valarauko) (Shadow and Flame). There are a million other links and great stories.
Oh yes, Gambit, the Shire is darkened, but it is rebuilt. If you've seen the Extended FOTR, Sam's box that he drops, if you don't mind a small spoiler of the books...
The Great Tree that Bilbo's party was under was cut down (it's been a while, don't hold me to that fact), anyway, Sam goes into a field and plants a new tree with the gift from Galadriel, and it grows fast and strong and beautiful and tall and everything. He also plants new trees all over the Shire, not sure whether he used any of the dust/soil/fertilizer for them though.
I just can't believe they got...the ENDING wrong.
Peter Jackson also talked about this in one of the extras. They didn't put the Scouring at the end because they had structured the main climax of the trilogy to be the destruction of the ring. It was felt that putting the Scouring at the end would have been anti-climatic. Personally, I think they were right.
Movies are much different mediums than novels are, and are much more constrained by structure, time, and pacing. You can have things happen in novels which might be brilliant in print and don't interrupt the flow of a story, but would absolutlely kill a movie if done in exactly the same way. I think that including the Scouring at the end really would have derailed the pacing and thrown it in a different direction.
Overall, I actually prefer the theatrical release over the extended RotK. I thought that most of the added scenes were exposition, and really didn't add anything to the movie for me. I liked the new scenes with Faramir and Denehtor, and between Faramir and Eowyn, but thought most of the rest just slowed the pacing.