gee.. that's a little harsh. You might want to try it out for yourself though if you really are considering a Mac. Macs really are solid, fast, quality computers. You may find you don't notice a big difference surfing on a Mac vs PC.
I use a 3GHz Pentium 4 (running Win2k) on a T1 line at work, and a 1.4GHz G4 (running 10.3.7) on DSL at home. Web surfing doesn't feel much different on either machine.
I use Firefox as my main browser. Safari is just a dog, so I've given up on it. Compare Safari to Firefox on Windows and Firefox is still that much faster.
I'm exactly the opposite. I use Safari as my main browser because the UI is so much more responsive than Firefox. Firefox may render some complex pages slightly faster, but not fast enough to put up with its comparatively sluggish UI.
Wow, that is pretty bad. Still, I've seen sites with some simple frames make scrolling a little jerky. Firefox renders Gamespot smooth on Windows, and far from it on OS X. I suppose this is due in part to the graphic subsystem, but I still believe there are things that could be improved.
Wow, that is pretty bad. Still, I've seen sites with some simple frames make scrolling a little jerky. Firefox renders Gamespot smooth on Windows, and far from it on OS X. I suppose this is due in part to the graphic subsystem, but I still believe there are things that could be improved.
Pumping it all out to the graphic subsystem will win everyday as opposed to throwing (a lot of) it onto the CPUs. Tiger is going to address that right?
As far as IE, particularly Win IE, they let coding errors go and try to render no matter how much invalid crap is in the coding, whereas standards based browsers try to be prim and proper purists about it and suffer for it, speedwise, I feel.
Hell, IE still doesn't render PNG alpha transparencies yet! Strip that code out of Safari and it'd blaze (kidding)
Pumping it all out to the graphic subsystem will win everyday as opposed to throwing (a lot of) it onto the CPUs. Tiger is going to address that right?
All joking aside, is Tiger supposed to address some of the sluggishness of the GUI? If so, do you think it would be very apparent or hype?
I can't tell the difference on smaller pages, but on bigger pages, there is definitely some sluggishness on the Mac side (Mac Camino is what I use primarily).
Is it a dealbreaker? No way, I doubt you'd even notice it unless you're visiting some huge or odd pages.
What Apple really needs to work on is the Finder. The Windows Explorer destroys it in speed (that is, when it's not completely polluted by spyware). A multithreaded OS X finder is long overdue.
What Apple really needs to work on is the Finder. The Windows Explorer destroys it in speed (that is, when it's not completely polluted by spyware). A multithreaded OS X finder is long overdue.
Yes, fix that f..king finder. NO MORE SPIINNING WHEEL OF DEATH.! NO MORE SPIINNING WHEEL OF DEATH! GGGRRRRRR makes me so mad, stupid classic.
It?s not very nice to make fun of people who are unaware of the megahertz they posses. I mean it is pretty confusing. By the way what?s a megahertz, if it?s like a hurtsdoughnut I don?t want any!
It?s not very nice to make fun of people who are unaware of the megahertz they posses. I mean it is pretty confusing. By the way what?s a megahertz, if it?s like a hurtsdoughnut I don?t want any!
I use Firefox regularly on an iBook 1.33 Ghz, an AthlonXP 1800+ and now have had a chance to use FireFox under winXP on a P4 2.8 GHz.
What I found is that Firefox on my iBook is the fastest. I blame Win98 on my athlon for making it feel like its "coughing up" web pages...that is it stutters.
The big shock though...I guess...is that surfing on that damn P4 is the worst. Its the most stuttery. Obviously the P4 in comparison is going to be more powerful but something about windows makes it just sit there saying "ddaaaah, what now boss" and then runs off to converse with winsock about BS...then gets around to grabbing the page and rendering it. Anyways, XP is poop.
Give me a break! If you're saying that any Powerbook is faster
Ok, have a kit-kat. Thx Dr.Lingras..ROFLMAODBLLOL
Clearly,
Quote:
What I found is that Firefox on my iBook is the fastest.
and hence we define MY iBook to be the set of all powerbooks? No.
Quote:
any Powerbook is faster at surfing than a P4 2.8
You say this because you did not read my post.
Quote:
its "coughing up" web pages...that is it stutters.
Also,
Quote:
Obviously the P4 in comparison is going to be more powerful
Quote:
surfing on that damn P4 is the worst.
clearly meaning A computer some place at some time. I was referring to a personal experience.
Quote:
your P4 system is f!!ked up.
I did not state that it was mine. You'll notice:
Quote:
Its the most stuttery.
, which is a simple complaint about the characteristics of surfing on that machine and similarly with Win98 from MY experience.
You would have been right in saying that I did not properly characterise Windows XP's processes of bringing a webpage to the user but instead I receive:
Quote:
Dissing XP seems like the 'cool' (hardly) thing to when you're a Mac user.
Maybe you're concerned with being cool but I was posting a rather straight forward problem I was having with windows surfing. If you would prefer to characterise me as an idiot, go ahead, I'm sure everyone will follow your dynamic, credible lead.
As for my being a Mac user, I am proud to say that I have had a chance to be truely productive using the runoff of Atkinson's genius. However much you just love XP, there are indeed serious issues with its stability and usability as myself and many people, I myself, know.
In the end though...try reading the post first. 8)
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Originally posted by Thinine
Fine, be an idiot...
gee.. that's a little harsh. You might want to try it out for yourself though if you really are considering a Mac. Macs really are solid, fast, quality computers. You may find you don't notice a big difference surfing on a Mac vs PC.
I use a 3GHz Pentium 4 (running Win2k) on a T1 line at work, and a 1.4GHz G4 (running 10.3.7) on DSL at home. Web surfing doesn't feel much different on either machine.
Originally posted by mikef
I use Firefox as my main browser. Safari is just a dog, so I've given up on it. Compare Safari to Firefox on Windows and Firefox is still that much faster.
I'm exactly the opposite. I use Safari as my main browser because the UI is so much more responsive than Firefox. Firefox may render some complex pages slightly faster, but not fast enough to put up with its comparatively sluggish UI.
Use whatever you're comfortable with, however there's still no doubt in my mind that OS X is slower at web browsing than Windows 2000 or Windows XP.
Firefox starts to render before everything is loaded, so it looks like it's faster, when in reality it might be a few ms slower.
'nuff said.
BTW, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.appleinsider.com
Originally posted by JonE
Wow, that is pretty bad. Still, I've seen sites with some simple frames make scrolling a little jerky. Firefox renders Gamespot smooth on Windows, and far from it on OS X. I suppose this is due in part to the graphic subsystem, but I still believe there are things that could be improved.
BTW, http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.appleinsider.com
Pumping it all out to the graphic subsystem will win everyday as opposed to throwing (a lot of) it onto the CPUs. Tiger is going to address that right?
As far as IE, particularly Win IE, they let coding errors go and try to render no matter how much invalid crap is in the coding, whereas standards based browsers try to be prim and proper purists about it and suffer for it, speedwise, I feel.
Hell, IE still doesn't render PNG alpha transparencies yet! Strip that code out of Safari and it'd blaze
Originally posted by johnq
Pumping it all out to the graphic subsystem will win everyday as opposed to throwing (a lot of) it onto the CPUs. Tiger is going to address that right?
All joking aside, is Tiger supposed to address some of the sluggishness of the GUI? If so, do you think it would be very apparent or hype?
Originally posted by Relic
All joking aside, is Tiger supposed to address some of the sluggishness of the GUI? If so, do you think it would be very apparent or hype?
I did hear it's supposed to put more of the GUI workload into the GPU, but I can't back it up.
Is it a dealbreaker? No way, I doubt you'd even notice it unless you're visiting some huge or odd pages.
What Apple really needs to work on is the Finder. The Windows Explorer destroys it in speed (that is, when it's not completely polluted by spyware). A multithreaded OS X finder is long overdue.
Originally posted by Gizzmonic
What Apple really needs to work on is the Finder. The Windows Explorer destroys it in speed (that is, when it's not completely polluted by spyware). A multithreaded OS X finder is long overdue.
Yes, fix that f..king finder. NO MORE SPIINNING WHEEL OF DEATH.! NO MORE SPIINNING WHEEL OF DEATH! GGGRRRRRR makes me so mad, stupid classic.
unusable as a browser.
Once I enabled DNS caching (via root access and changing
a file in /etc, grep for DNS to find it), it was much better,
but still quite a bit slower than my 1.5 GHz PC (as
expected).
She uses and old build of Mozilla, because once she starts
using something she will not change even if the new thing
is better.
I think that Safari and firefox are about equal in speed.
Mozilla is slow to load, but still about the same speed
also once it gets started.
Originally posted by e1618978
I bought an eMac (800 MHz, I think) ...
...
I think i've married a woman yesterday
or was it a boy?
Loopy boy you are.
Originally posted by Vox Barbara
I think i've married a woman yesterday
or was it a boy?
Loopy boy you are.
It?s not very nice to make fun of people who are unaware of the megahertz they posses. I mean it is pretty confusing. By the way what?s a megahertz, if it?s like a hurtsdoughnut I don?t want any!
Originally posted by Relic
It?s not very nice to make fun of people who are unaware of the megahertz they posses. I mean it is pretty confusing. By the way what?s a megahertz, if it?s like a hurtsdoughnut I don?t want any!
Ok i go editing a bit:
Originally posted by Vox Barbara
Quote:
Originally posted by e1618978
I bought an eMac (800 MHz, I think) ...
...
I think i've married a boy yesterday
or was it a girl?
Snoopy boy you are.
What I found is that Firefox on my iBook is the fastest. I blame Win98 on my athlon for making it feel like its "coughing up" web pages...that is it stutters.
The big shock though...I guess...is that surfing on that damn P4 is the worst. Its the most stuttery. Obviously the P4 in comparison is going to be more powerful but something about windows makes it just sit there saying "ddaaaah, what now boss" and then runs off to converse with winsock about BS...then gets around to grabbing the page and rendering it. Anyways, XP is poop.
Dissing XP seems like the 'cool' (hardly) thing to when you're a Mac user.
Give me a break! If you're saying that any Powerbook is faster
Ok, have a kit-kat. Thx Dr.Lingras..ROFLMAODBLLOL
Clearly,
What I found is that Firefox on my iBook is the fastest.
and hence we define MY iBook to be the set of all powerbooks? No.
any Powerbook is faster at surfing than a P4 2.8
You say this because you did not read my post.
its "coughing up" web pages...that is it stutters.
Also,
Obviously the P4 in comparison is going to be more powerful
surfing on that damn P4 is the worst.
clearly meaning A computer some place at some time. I was referring to a personal experience.
your P4 system is f!!ked up.
I did not state that it was mine. You'll notice:
Its the most stuttery.
, which is a simple complaint about the characteristics of surfing on that machine and similarly with Win98 from MY experience.
You would have been right in saying that I did not properly characterise Windows XP's processes of bringing a webpage to the user but instead I receive:
Dissing XP seems like the 'cool' (hardly) thing to when you're a Mac user.
Maybe you're concerned with being cool but I was posting a rather straight forward problem I was having with windows surfing. If you would prefer to characterise me as an idiot, go ahead, I'm sure everyone will follow your dynamic, credible lead.
As for my being a Mac user, I am proud to say that I have had a chance to be truely productive using the runoff of Atkinson's genius. However much you just love XP, there are indeed serious issues with its stability and usability as myself and many people, I myself, know.
In the end though...try reading the post first. 8)