How can Adobe InDesign CS be so good and GoLive suck so bad?
How is this possible? It is like a bunch of scattered brain dorks got together and made GoLive.
InDesign, PhotoShop, Writer are all absolutely awesome! So I bought the CS suite thinking GoLive would be great if it was just half as good as the rest. Dang, I am soooo disappointed in GoLive. I hate to say it but FrontPage rocks compared to GoLive. I think I will try DreamWeaver next and see how that goes.
Had to rant...
Eric
InDesign, PhotoShop, Writer are all absolutely awesome! So I bought the CS suite thinking GoLive would be great if it was just half as good as the rest. Dang, I am soooo disappointed in GoLive. I hate to say it but FrontPage rocks compared to GoLive. I think I will try DreamWeaver next and see how that goes.
Had to rant...
Eric
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I too am very upset with GoLive. I love PS CS I wish some of PS's greatness could wear off. Sadly it hasn't. Maybe if Adobe rebuitl GoLive from the ground up (with a whole new team), i would consider it agian
GoLive used to luuurve proprietary tags, at one point 2nd only to Frontpage...
as a result it made non-standard code too often (better now than it once was).
DW has traditionally produced cleaner, more compatible pages.
Originally posted by Silver
Aw ... Just use BBedit. It doesn't suck !
Although i do know HTML , i do not know it well enough to create webpages from just code as you are reqiured to do in BBedit. Plus, DW does have nice code highlighting and the added features of BBedit do not merit its cost if someone owns DW already
I will give DW a try.
Worse case is I continue to use FrontPage via network over MS Remote Desktop.
Eric
Originally posted by aplnub
I will never go back to the days of coding my own pages. I use too many tables for that crap. Plus, I don't want to spend my life html'ing when there are so many better things to be doing.
I will give DW a try.
Eric
Actually, I did give DW a try. Several times. But it never did what *I* wanted, and/or it was too slow. But I'm probably just old skool
Originally posted by Jwink3101
Sadly, there is no great WYSIWYG web design program. I use dreamweaver becuase it is better than anything else out there but it is far from great.
Perhaps your idea of a "great" WYSIWYG editor is fantastical.
I'd say DW MX approaches greatness, if you know what the hell you're doing. It won't design your site for you, but it's a hell of a program.
I used Frontpage for four years at school (forced to work with their MS systems), then got GoLive hoping it would be better... used it for a while, not impressed, then went to Dreamweaver and never looked back.
No matter how much dreamweaver annoys me, or even pisses me off sometimes I always smile when I think of it compared to GoLive or Frontpage.
DW rocks!
Thanks guys!
Eric
Originally posted by Jwink3101
Sadly, there is no great WYSIWYG web design program. I use dreamweaver becuase it is better than anything else out there but it is far from great.
I too am very upset with GoLive. I love PS CS I wish some of PS's greatness could wear off. Sadly it hasn't. Maybe if Adobe rebuitl GoLive from the ground up (with a whole new team), i would consider it agian
Agreed!
Illustrator and InDesign rock, Photoshop is not quite as good and GoLive is SHIT! It's because you can't design in it, you have to import everything. FrontPage is easier! I don't like Dreamweaver either.
Originally posted by aplnub
How is this possible? It is like a bunch of scattered brain dorks got together and made GoLive.
You don't seem to appreciate that GoLive was an acquisition by Adobe, while Photoshop was built in-house.
GoLive Cyberstudio was lauded when it was launched (by a German software house, I believe) and it was snapped up by Adobe, which was being badly beaten in the marketplace by Macromedia.
Of course, that hasn't changed.
There really isn't a good beginner to mid-range Web Design app out there.
Since Apple has seen it fit to take on MS Publisher with Pages, maybe they'll take on FrontPage as well. I'm convinced that only Apple can do this right.
My take on this is that a good WYSIWYG web app would need a Keynote-style sidebar, so you can navigate easily to different pages and instantly see the site hierarchy.
Excellent Templates would be a natural for Apple. A Site Planner for the New user would be nice. Open the app and click "plan site' and the app asks you what kind of site you want to build, how many pages and what each page is for. Maybe the app could auto-generate a site with navigation bar with buttons linked to each page in the sidebar (according to the template chosen.) Save the new user a lot of work.
Maybe Quicktime 7/H.264 will allow for Apple to building in very easy "streaming" capabilities. GoLive has a million options for that, but I've never bothered to try to figure it out.
The question is whether Apple could implement an easy-to-use database driven solution. Who knows, maybe that's why the spreadsheet/database portion of iWork hasn't been implemented yet.
Highly suggest you try the Macromedia software if you didn't enjoy the Adobe stuff.