Final Cut Pro and Short DVD Capture
I'm doing a project for class and I need to capture around 30 seconds to 1 minute of dvd video. My prof said that we need to use the computers that are set up with an exturnal dvd player with a capture card since the dvd drives on the mac are encripted and will not capture video.:/ I have a PB G4 and was just wondering if this is true, or would I be able to capture on my PB if I had final cut pro?
I also need to take some still shots form a DVD, on windows I know that powerdvd can capture right from the dvd, is there something like this for the mac? My prof also said that we have to use captured video inorder to take screen shots of our dvd using after effects.
Thanks for your help,
Matt
I also need to take some still shots form a DVD, on windows I know that powerdvd can capture right from the dvd, is there something like this for the mac? My prof also said that we have to use captured video inorder to take screen shots of our dvd using after effects.
Thanks for your help,
Matt
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Originally posted by ipodandimac
for the record, there is a reason this is so difficult to do.
What are you, a member of the MPAA Junior League? Even if this DVD video he wants to copy is copyrighted (and nothing he said suggested that it was), a class project would be considered fair use anyway.
Originally posted by ipodandimac
well 1st off [ipodandimac] needs a lesson in copyright laws.
There are 2 probelms you are/will be faceing. Your Prof. is probably trying to take advantage of the "analog hole" by having you export into a non-digital format and re-capture it back into a digital format. This may NOT work. Macrovision has analog copy-protection that will prevent you from capturing what you want. I hooked my Canon GL1 to my DVD player and tried to record straight to it would stop when it sensed a copyright protection marker. (I ended up getting 8-10 clips into FCP and pieced them back together to create a awesome clip that was used in school projects years later 8) )
[snip...] Sorry guys.
Does anyone have a solution for capturing a still from the movie? Is there a DVD player (program) that will capture a still like powerdvd does for windows.
BRussel thanks for the optional program. Will I be able to import the captured video into After Effects or Director?
Originally posted by BRussell
What are you, a member of the MPAA Junior League? Even if this DVD video he wants to copy is copyrighted (and nothing he said suggested that it was), a class project would be considered fair use anyway.
Just because it's education doesn't mean its ok. That whole "time-shifting" loophole/argument only applies to personal use. A class project, unless the prof gives a grade without looking at the finished product, will not be for private use. Trust me, I tried to pull the whole "it's for education" argument last year in a class and my grade suffered. Last time I'll ever try that. I mean you have to do what your professor wants, but he shouldn't be teaching people that it's ok to use copyrighted material.
Originally posted by ipodandimac
Just because it's education doesn't mean its ok. That whole "time-shifting" loophole/argument only applies to personal use. A class project, unless the prof gives a grade without looking at the finished product, will not be for private use. Trust me, I tried to pull the whole "it's for education" argument last year in a class and my grade suffered. Last time I'll ever try that. I mean you have to do what your professor wants, but he shouldn't be teaching people that it's ok to use copyrighted material.
It's not about private use. One of the cornerstones of the fair use doctrine is educational use. Here are the fair use exceptions to copyright law.
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair
use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in
copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that
section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use),
scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In
determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case
is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether
such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit
educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in
relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or
value of the copyrighted work.
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding
of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the
above factors.
Of course, your professor should be aware, and responsible for the legalities re: copyright infringement etc. I don't think it's a big deal as long as it's strictly used for educational purposes. Then again, I'm not a lawyer, nor the MPAA.
This will give you a DV file similar to the files that iMovie captures. You can then import it into your Final Cut project and edit it as desired.
To address the copyright issue, I am no lawyer (and I hate them anyway) but I believe that if you use it for demonstration and/or educational purposes you should be fine as long as you dont claim that the work is your own. And as such, you certainly will not want to use it as a portfolio piece or enter it into any sort contest. As far as a grade is concerned, my professors always made us identify any work that was not our own. I was always wanted to use my own stuff (such as photos) so that I could use the projects as portfolio pieces. But to each his own eh?
Personally, I use ffmpegX because my boss decided that she wasnt going to consult me when getting a whole bunch of old 16 & 8 mm films (that were created by our univeristy before I was even born) convered to DVD. Then I discover that they will need to be edited. Oh joy... I cant seem to make people understant that the DVD format is a DELIVERY medium! Not something meant to be editied off of. Ok, Im going to stop ranting and lower my blood pressure...
Have fun!
Originally posted by BRussell
It's not about private use. One of the cornerstones of the fair use doctrine is educational use. Here are the fair use exceptions to copyright law.
Also, the school may have a special license in play. Mine has a license that allows recording, editing and rebroadcasting of any terrestrial TV to any number of people on campus - used so that lecturers don't have to worry about copyrights when showing documentaries and stuff. Our student TV channel has considered taking advantage of that and rebroadcasting Neighbours reruns with the adverts taken out - technically we can
Amorya
This is just a technical advise - no idea, how your country handle the legal part of this action.
In Germany, even the mentioning of such software is illegal??? haha, freedom of speech.......