well people can believe whatever they want, i'm just suggesting that no one hold his(or her) breath.
I can agree with that much. I'm not absolutely sure that the iMac will be updated; it's just that this is a trademark Apple procedure before a product update.
Also, I'd note that the iPod mini is seeing the same delays now - given that it also had "same business day" shipping, this is more than a little curious.
One of the speculations, assuming of course that there actually will be an upgrade, is a minor speed bump, 1.6->1.8 and 1.8->2.0. If this does happen this denifitely has ramifications for the PM line and would indicate that it too will also receive a minor speed bump at the low and middle end, from 1.8->2.0 and 2.0->2.2. Has the delivery time for the PMs changed also?
Maybe, maybe, too good to be true (?) in that, they (Apple) are trying so very hard to ship high numbers of Mac mini's and shuffles to the continental USA, that all else might be put on hold for a couple days? Then again, maybe not! I am sure they know what they are doing and we'll know a slight bit later. :-)
Apple probably will update the iMacs since I just bought one.
as far as video cards in the current iMacs I disagree with all the crying about them. my imac performs great with the stock card. I get over 60 fps in itunes and FCE HD and other apps run great. STOP YOUR BLOOD CLOT CRYIN!!!
If you want wicked graphics get a PM G5 pro tower, not a consumer machine.
Maybe, maybe, too good to be true (?) in that, they (Apple) are trying so very hard to ship high numbers of Mac mini's and shuffles to the continental USA, that all else might be put on hold for a couple days? Then again, maybe not! I am sure they know what they are doing and we'll know a slight bit later. :-)
I dont know about that.The delay is worldwide anyway.There is a 3-5 day wait at the Apple Japan store and a 4 day wait at Apple France store.It looks like the ipod mini delay is indicating a new upgrade so probably new imacs are not that far off either.Apple has usually done a six month cycle-except for that disaster,the imac G4 with is year long non update cycle (which is what killed it in the market)-and last years delay in the powermac line caused by the switch to 90 nm G5's.
No they want a Serial ATA controller that actually works. There is a well know problem with the iMac G5 HD controller that causes it to have slower disk I/O performance than the powermac (with same drive) and even the emac (with an ATA100 controller). You can see this on the xbench site, emac's handily beating iMac G5 on Disk I/O performance - Apart from a few aberations emacs averaged about 135 on disk test, iMac G5 averaged about 105- quite a difference
This is the reason I wont buy one (that and no Firewire 800) Apple needs to do the basic things right before anything else (like proper FW controllers on the Powermac). I dont understand how they can invent this stuff (Firewire in this case) and still not get it right. This is the problem with rushing stuff to market (although thats not an excuse for the iMac G5 is it?)
Wasn't the Chinese New Year just celebrated (Feb 9, or thereabouts)? Not sure if manufacturing lines would have slowed because of that and thus the total quantity in the channels reduced. Just a thought.
No they want a Serial ATA controller that actually works. There is a well know problem with the iMac G5 HD controller that causes it to have slower disk I/O performance than the powermac (with same drive) and even the emac (with an ATA100 controller). You can see this on the xbench site, emac's handily beating iMac G5 on Disk I/O performance - Apart from a few aberations emacs averaged about 135 on disk test, iMac G5 averaged about 105- quite a difference *snip*
i see.. some sort of artefact from cramming a G5 into a 2-inch slab? or cost-cutting? or plain oversight?
Wasn't the Chinese New Year just celebrated (Feb 9, or thereabouts)? Not sure if manufacturing lines would have slowed because of that and thus the total quantity in the channels reduced. Just a thought.
But wouldnt that affect everything across the board,not just selected products?
But wouldnt that affect everything across the board,not just selected products?
Some of Apple's products are manufactured in Taiwan I know (laptops, pretty sure), but which are manufactured where, I cannot recall off the top of my head.
I think an apple engineer stated that it was hardware design issue that did not get fixed. Expect it to be fixed in Rev b.
It better be. Cant see how they missed it when they had so long to develop the Imac G5. Anyway, if it is fixed I might be tempted by a 20 inch 2Ghz model (or maybe I'll wait for dual-core....)
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Originally posted by ipodandimac
well people can believe whatever they want, i'm just suggesting that no one hold his(or her) breath.
I can agree with that much. I'm not absolutely sure that the iMac will be updated; it's just that this is a trademark Apple procedure before a product update.
Also, I'd note that the iPod mini is seeing the same delays now - given that it also had "same business day" shipping, this is more than a little curious.
as far as video cards in the current iMacs I disagree with all the crying about them. my imac performs great with the stock card. I get over 60 fps in itunes and FCE HD and other apps run great. STOP YOUR BLOOD CLOT CRYIN!!!
If you want wicked graphics get a PM G5 pro tower, not a consumer machine.
This changes a lot if it gets freshened up soon, the question is now whether to get the rev. B or wait for an all-new one later this year
Originally posted by nabfa1
Maybe, maybe, too good to be true (?) in that, they (Apple) are trying so very hard to ship high numbers of Mac mini's and shuffles to the continental USA, that all else might be put on hold for a couple days? Then again, maybe not! I am sure they know what they are doing and we'll know a slight bit later. :-)
I dont know about that.The delay is worldwide anyway.There is a 3-5 day wait at the Apple Japan store and a 4 day wait at Apple France store.It looks like the ipod mini delay is indicating a new upgrade so probably new imacs are not that far off either.Apple has usually done a six month cycle-except for that disaster,the imac G4 with is year long non update cycle (which is what killed it in the market)-and last years delay in the powermac line caused by the switch to 90 nm G5's.
Originally posted by T'hain Esh Kelch
Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen...!
I also hope they fix the poor drive performance of the G5 iMac.
Originally posted by anand
I also hope they fix the poor drive performance of the G5 iMac.
now, that's indeed something i agree with.
it's a little sluggish.
Originally posted by anand
I also hope they fix the poor drive performance of the G5 iMac.
They're serial ATA 7200 rpm drives. What do you want?
Originally posted by iDave
They're serial ATA 7200 rpm drives. What do you want?
I guess they want 10,000 RPM.
This is the reason I wont buy one (that and no Firewire 800) Apple needs to do the basic things right before anything else (like proper FW controllers on the Powermac). I dont understand how they can invent this stuff (Firewire in this case) and still not get it right. This is the problem with rushing stuff to market (although thats not an excuse for the iMac G5 is it?)
Originally posted by Thereubster
No they want a Serial ATA controller that actually works. There is a well know problem with the iMac G5 HD controller that causes it to have slower disk I/O performance than the powermac (with same drive) and even the emac (with an ATA100 controller). You can see this on the xbench site, emac's handily beating iMac G5 on Disk I/O performance - Apart from a few aberations emacs averaged about 135 on disk test, iMac G5 averaged about 105- quite a difference *snip*
i see.. some sort of artefact from cramming a G5 into a 2-inch slab? or cost-cutting? or plain oversight?
Originally posted by Rhumgod
Wasn't the Chinese New Year just celebrated (Feb 9, or thereabouts)? Not sure if manufacturing lines would have slowed because of that and thus the total quantity in the channels reduced. Just a thought.
But wouldnt that affect everything across the board,not just selected products?
Originally posted by cuneglasus
But wouldnt that affect everything across the board,not just selected products?
Some of Apple's products are manufactured in Taiwan I know (laptops, pretty sure), but which are manufactured where, I cannot recall off the top of my head.
Originally posted by sunilraman
i see.. some sort of artefact from cramming a G5 into a 2-inch slab? or cost-cutting? or plain oversight?
I think an apple engineer stated that it was hardware design issue that did not get fixed. Expect it to be fixed in Rev b.
Originally posted by anand
I think an apple engineer stated that it was hardware design issue that did not get fixed. Expect it to be fixed in Rev b.
yeah i just had a brief look at some xbench figures, it's just a pity that you have a SATA 7200 in there and not getting the most from it
Originally posted by anand
I think an apple engineer stated that it was hardware design issue that did not get fixed. Expect it to be fixed in Rev b.
It better be. Cant see how they missed it when they had so long to develop the Imac G5. Anyway, if it is fixed I might be tempted by a 20 inch 2Ghz model (or maybe I'll wait for dual-core....)
and im buying!
dont care bout the CPU speed, that is plenty fast, the supporting cast needs help though.
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