I can barely contain my enthusiasm that Apple is upgrading the iPods.
For once I hope TS is completely wrong
All we need is another nifty 'lil gadget side tracking a serious pro workstation again.
I doubt that anything else major would find it's way to us before March
now. Grrrrrr!
Chin up mate, Apple?s stock is up because of those darling Walkmans®. The way you are talking you would think Apple also makes computers or something. \
They are too tightly correlated to say that. The iPod definitely helps the mac computer market out so much that I doubt it would even ben near 5.... more like 20-30.
I think were probably going to be waiting for the Quark offer to finish on 13th March before we see an update now.
On uk applestore the shipping time has gone back down to 24hours, the imac is still 4 days.
So considering the imac is not included in the Quark offer i expect that we will see an imac update before the powermac.
Wasn't the amazon leak of the Tiger release somewhere around 13th March - maybe we will see Tiger coming out with a powermac or maybe a free Tiger update if you buy a mac after 13th March.
I don't know what to think any more or what to expect.
I'm sure they are working on something, but what?
Apparently the iPod consumer gadget division is keeping Apple viable,
but for how long?
Will the halo effect bring in enough new customers to make it worth the effort to continue the quest for cutting edge performance or will they
decide that average is fine for mom and pop as long as they don't have to fight Windows?
When the entire computer division still only captures less than 5% of
the market, how much of that market share really goes to pro users?
And how does Apple define professional?
I would love to know what gear Pixar is using if that level is what they really consider professional.
Hopefully Pixar engineers are also making enough fuss for the rest of us to benefit in the next lineup of professional desktop workstations.
I'm sick of waiting, but the longer it takes, the more we can look forward
to a leap frog event.
ribbit
Pixar only has a few Powermacs; their workstation needs are still predominantly SGI and Unix, with Linux used for the rendering farm
"Pixar's new RenderFarm, used to create the digital images for each frame of animation in its movies, will consist of 1024 Intel Xeon processors inside of eight new RackSaver BladeRack supercomputing clusters running Pixar's own RenderMan software. The RenderFarm features 2TBs (two terabytes) of memory and 60TBs (terabytes) of disk space. Each Intel Xeon processor at 2.80GHz is about five times faster than the older RISC-based processors in Pixar's outgoing RenderFarm. Pixar is using the system for its film, "The Incredibles," scheduled for a 2004 release."
Apple is not considerd a viable player in the professional 3D workstation area. Linux is the new market dominant force for this.
This certainly supports the idea of a dual core PowerPC workstation
having the capability of running dual operating systems.
I could understand a great desire for an Apple desktop workstation
capable of running both OSX and LINUX, but would Apple be willing to fully support a dual OS machine?
The mind boggles
I've been running Linux in a dual boot configuration on a Mac for 6 years now. Many flavors are available, including BSD types like NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD. All run great on Apple hardware. Remember Apple has a free OS called Darwin (BSD) in which OSX is based on. My Mac Mini for instance runs Yellow Dog Linux exclusively.
I don't know what to think any more or what to expect.
When the entire computer division still only captures less than 5% of
the market, how much of that market share really goes to pro users?
And how does Apple define professional?
Please don't fall into the trap like marketing people do. Do you know what market share is? Market share is amount of units sold PER QUARTER compared with PCs. Our market share will NEVER be high as dells except for maybe a quarter or two. Why is this? For one mac units last 4 times as long. I see people running 4 year old macs productively all the time. How often do you see a 4 year old dell still running!? You don't ever. Market share is a very bad phrase, don't fall into the trap.
Apple sells approximately 200k-250k powermacs a quarter. If you want to consider that their only professional line, there is your number to work with.
But please, use real marketshare next time, which is amount of users using the platform vs. amount of users using the other platform.
Pixar only has a few Powermacs; their workstation needs are still predominantly SGI and Unix, with Linux used for the rendering farm
"Pixar's new RenderFarm, used to create the digital images for each frame of animation in its movies, will consist of 1024 Intel Xeon processors inside of eight new RackSaver BladeRack supercomputing clusters running Pixar's own RenderMan software. The RenderFarm features 2TBs (two terabytes) of memory and 60TBs (terabytes) of disk space. Each Intel Xeon processor at 2.80GHz is about five times faster than the older RISC-based processors in Pixar's outgoing RenderFarm. Pixar is using the system for its film, "The Incredibles," scheduled for a 2004 release."
Apple is not considerd a viable player in the professional 3D workstation area. Linux is the new market dominant force for this.
Uh, in a word, wrong...
The folks listed below work for Pixar as IT gurus...
Yah it sounded odd to me that Pixar didn't use apple hardware. I swore about 18 months ago I heard apple state that pixar had almost completely switched to apple hardware from linux rendering farms using xeons.
I just didn't want to look up the proof
Originally I believe pixar was almost all mac, so that data up above your post must be a little out dated.
Comments
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Oh goody,
I can barely contain my enthusiasm that Apple is upgrading the iPods.
For once I hope TS is completely wrong
All we need is another nifty 'lil gadget side tracking a serious pro workstation again.
I doubt that anything else major would find it's way to us before March
now. Grrrrrr!
Yeah, one more week is gonna kill ya... ;^p
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
Oh goody,
I can barely contain my enthusiasm that Apple is upgrading the iPods.
For once I hope TS is completely wrong
All we need is another nifty 'lil gadget side tracking a serious pro workstation again.
I doubt that anything else major would find it's way to us before March
now. Grrrrrr!
Chin up mate, Apple?s stock is up because of those darling Walkmans®. The way you are talking you would think Apple also makes computers or something.
Fingers and toes crossed guys
David
Originally posted by illustratorDavid
Apple Store UK is down for update !!!!!
Fingers and toes crossed guys
David
Looks like it's the new iPod Mini . . . .
Originally posted by dumpster_d
Looks like it's the new iPod Mini . . . .
Do you think if Apple split up it's iPod division into a seperate company the stock worth would be something like this;
Apple iPod 80.00
Apple Computers 5.00
Makes you wonder....
Originally posted by Relic
Apple iPod 80.00
Apple Computers 5.00
Makes you wonder....
yeah, I know. i've got this sick feeling that we'll see anotehr iPod update before the next Powermac update.
I think were probably going to be waiting for the Quark offer to finish on 13th March before we see an update now.
On uk applestore the shipping time has gone back down to 24hours, the imac is still 4 days.
So considering the imac is not included in the Quark offer i expect that we will see an imac update before the powermac.
Wasn't the amazon leak of the Tiger release somewhere around 13th March - maybe we will see Tiger coming out with a powermac or maybe a free Tiger update if you buy a mac after 13th March.
David
www.davidjennings.co.uk
I'm sure they are working on something, but what?
Apparently the iPod consumer gadget division is keeping Apple viable,
but for how long?
Will the halo effect bring in enough new customers to make it worth the effort to continue the quest for cutting edge performance or will they
decide that average is fine for mom and pop as long as they don't have to fight Windows?
When the entire computer division still only captures less than 5% of
the market, how much of that market share really goes to pro users?
And how does Apple define professional?
I would love to know what gear Pixar is using if that level is what they really consider professional.
Hopefully Pixar engineers are also making enough fuss for the rest of us to benefit in the next lineup of professional desktop workstations.
I'm sick of waiting, but the longer it takes, the more we can look forward
to a leap frog event.
ribbit
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
I don't know what to think any more or what to expect.
I'm sure they are working on something, but what?
Apparently the iPod consumer gadget division is keeping Apple viable,
but for how long?
Will the halo effect bring in enough new customers to make it worth the effort to continue the quest for cutting edge performance or will they
decide that average is fine for mom and pop as long as they don't have to fight Windows?
When the entire computer division still only captures less than 5% of
the market, how much of that market share really goes to pro users?
And how does Apple define professional?
I would love to know what gear Pixar is using if that level is what they really consider professional.
Hopefully Pixar engineers are also making enough fuss for the rest of us to benefit in the next lineup of professional desktop workstations.
I'm sick of waiting, but the longer it takes, the more we can look forward
to a leap frog event.
ribbit
Pixar only has a few Powermacs; their workstation needs are still predominantly SGI and Unix, with Linux used for the rendering farm
"Pixar's new RenderFarm, used to create the digital images for each frame of animation in its movies, will consist of 1024 Intel Xeon processors inside of eight new RackSaver BladeRack supercomputing clusters running Pixar's own RenderMan software. The RenderFarm features 2TBs (two terabytes) of memory and 60TBs (terabytes) of disk space. Each Intel Xeon processor at 2.80GHz is about five times faster than the older RISC-based processors in Pixar's outgoing RenderFarm. Pixar is using the system for its film, "The Incredibles," scheduled for a 2004 release."
Apple is not considerd a viable player in the professional 3D workstation area. Linux is the new market dominant force for this.
having the capability of running dual operating systems.
I could understand a great desire for an Apple desktop workstation
capable of running both OSX and LINUX, but would Apple be willing to fully support a dual OS machine?
The mind boggles
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
This certainly supports the idea of a dual core PowerPC workstation
having the capability of running dual operating systems.
I could understand a great desire for an Apple desktop workstation
capable of running both OSX and LINUX, but would Apple be willing to fully support a dual OS machine?
The mind boggles
I've been running Linux in a dual boot configuration on a Mac for 6 years now. Many flavors are available, including BSD types like NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD. All run great on Apple hardware. Remember Apple has a free OS called Darwin (BSD) in which OSX is based on. My Mac Mini for instance runs Yellow Dog Linux exclusively.
Originally posted by FallenFromTheTree
I don't know what to think any more or what to expect.
When the entire computer division still only captures less than 5% of
the market, how much of that market share really goes to pro users?
And how does Apple define professional?
Please don't fall into the trap like marketing people do. Do you know what market share is? Market share is amount of units sold PER QUARTER compared with PCs. Our market share will NEVER be high as dells except for maybe a quarter or two. Why is this? For one mac units last 4 times as long. I see people running 4 year old macs productively all the time. How often do you see a 4 year old dell still running!? You don't ever. Market share is a very bad phrase, don't fall into the trap.
Apple sells approximately 200k-250k powermacs a quarter. If you want to consider that their only professional line, there is your number to work with.
But please, use real marketshare next time, which is amount of users using the platform vs. amount of users using the other platform.
Originally posted by Relic
Pixar only has a few Powermacs; their workstation needs are still predominantly SGI and Unix, with Linux used for the rendering farm
"Pixar's new RenderFarm, used to create the digital images for each frame of animation in its movies, will consist of 1024 Intel Xeon processors inside of eight new RackSaver BladeRack supercomputing clusters running Pixar's own RenderMan software. The RenderFarm features 2TBs (two terabytes) of memory and 60TBs (terabytes) of disk space. Each Intel Xeon processor at 2.80GHz is about five times faster than the older RISC-based processors in Pixar's outgoing RenderFarm. Pixar is using the system for its film, "The Incredibles," scheduled for a 2004 release."
Apple is not considerd a viable player in the professional 3D workstation area. Linux is the new market dominant force for this.
Uh, in a word, wrong...
The folks listed below work for Pixar as IT gurus...
The slides that made up Gabe Benveniste & Bethany Hanson's talk at O'Reilly's 2003 Mac OS X Conference.
These slides show that in 2003 there were 375 Mac desktops, 100 Mac laptops, 500 Linux workstations & 125 Windows desktops...
It also specifiies that the 500 Linux workstations were 'likely to become Mac OS X boxes in the future'...
So, seems pretty clear to me that Pixar is very bullish on Apple hardware!
I just didn't want to look up the proof
Originally I believe pixar was almost all mac, so that data up above your post must be a little out dated.
You make a valid point about the market share disinfo spin.
My 1998 300 MHz G3 Tower is just now nearing retirement
even though it still runs flawlessly with some software limitations.
If Apple continues to maintain this kind of quality control,
I'm sure my new tower will stay productive for many years.
Personally I think when your CPU power has been doubled its time to upgrade.
Actually, my daughter can't wait to get my G3 to replace her 3 year old
Sony Vaio RX550. <">
Originally posted by emig647
Apple sells approximately 200k-250k powermacs a quarter. If you want to consider that their only professional line, there is your number to work with.
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Actually, they're below 200k, and they recently said that they don't believe it will ever get above 200k.