What broadcasters want you to think is: If you didn't record it, you can't have it. That said, I'm sure any site I put here will be removed because of what else they host. It is certainly a gray area and now there is a huge struggle over it's control. This is why the FCC wants a broadcast flag on digital TV signals in the first place. However, it cripples fair use once again an destined for a nasty legal battle.
My take on downloading TV shows may not be politically correct, but it is justifiable. If "they" want money for a show, they should release it on DVD. Everything else is fair game.
The problem I have with your request is that Star Trek, Simpspns, and The Pretender are all out on DVD's. If you were to ask for something like Sea Quest, Viper, Time Trax, Tail Spin, The Tick, or other lost gems of TV history, I could set you up with my morality in tact.
What broadcasters want you to think is: If you didn't record it, you can't have it. That said, I'm sure any site I put here will be removed because of what else they host. It is certainly a gray area and now there is a huge struggle over it's control. This is why the FCC wants a broadcast flag on digital TV signals in the first place. However, it cripples fair use once again an destined for a nasty legal battle.
My take on downloading TV shows may not be politically correct, but it is justifiable. If "they" want money for a show, they should release it on DVD. Everything else is fair game.
The problem I have with your request is that Star Trek, Simpspns, and The Pretender are all out on DVD's. If you were to ask for something like Sea Quest, Viper, Time Trax, Tail Spin, The Tick, or other lost gems of TV history, I could set you up with my morality in tact.
RIAA's most wanted has morality ?
Wired Magazine in the recent months has run a huge article on BitTorrent and "darknets" and discusses downloading of TV and movies, so not such a biggie to openly mention BitTorrent here... But that's all I will say for now
It's hard to say.. it'd be weird if you couldn't copy what's floating through the air and entering and exiting your own body.
I've been copying shows on my EyeTV 200 for months now, it's fantastic.
I only watch commercials during news shows, all the other shows I watch I pre-record, edit out commercials as I'm watching the first time. Eventually I'm going to archive them on DVD, which is easy and lossless since they're already in mpeg-2.
It wouldn't be fair for companies if I were to give these DVDs to friends, but it'd hardly be fair to me to be prosecuted for agreeing to a license agreement that doesn't exist.
I think it has to do with distribution--even many freeware programs insist that you not mirror their product under penalty of... torture. In this case it obviously has to do with commercials not being seen etc etc.
Doesn't make any sense, but then again, it's a mix between public airwave rights and capitalism.
Since I live in Switzerland I can never get any new Episodes of Simpson?s. Torrents have been a godsend to that problem. Literally one hour after the Simpson?s end on Sunday I can download that episode. Doing this doesn?t affect my conscience one bit; I figured if Fox wanted me to pay for this content they would be offering a broadband live stream. Until such a time, just call me legal bate, thank goodness I don?t live in the US.
The Plextor ConvertX PVR for the Mac is the ultimate personal video recorder for the Mac. The PX-TV402U allows you to connect to a satellite TV, cable TV or broadcast TV signal and record programs to your Mac. You can then watch the video from the Mac or burn it to DVD for playback on a DVD player. You can also connect a camcorder, VCR or DVD player to record home videos to the Mac. The heart of the PX-TV402U is its multi-format encoder chip which converts video to the MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 formats as it is being recorded to the Mac.
Featuring the Award-Winning Elgato EyeTV PVR Software
Use the award-winning Elgato EyeTV software to watch, pause or record video to your Mac. EyeTV has a built-in electronic programming guide to see what?s on and to easily schedule recordings. EyeTV has a built-in video editor to make it easy to cut out unwanted scenes from your video. EyeTV also has the ability to export videos to the most popular Mac software like Apple iMovie, iDVD, DVD Studio Pro and Roxio Toast.
The Plextor ConvertX PVR for the Mac is the ultimate personal video recorder for the Mac. The PX-TV402U allows you to connect to a satellite TV, cable TV or broadcast TV signal and record programs to your Mac. You can then watch the video from the Mac or burn it to DVD for playback on a DVD player. You can also connect a camcorder, VCR or DVD player to record home videos to the Mac. The heart of the PX-TV402U is its multi-format encoder chip which converts video to the MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 formats as it is being recorded to the Mac.
Probably, this is just the one I have and it works great form me. I love renting DVDs and record/encode at the same time I'm watching it, cough Macrovision filter cough. Pretty cool stuff, I'm sure the EyeTV is just as good.
Since I live in Switzerland I can never get any new Episodes of Simpson?s. Torrents have been a godsend to that problem. Literally one hour after the Simpson?s end on Sunday I can download that episode. Doing this doesn?t affect my conscience one bit; I figured if Fox wanted me to pay for this content they would be offering a broadband live stream. Until such a time, just call me legal bate, thank goodness I don?t live in the US.
well currently i am living in one of the Not-So-Axis-Of-Evil-But-We've-Got-Our-Eye-On-You muslim countries (one of the most liberal and multicultural muslim countries, bonus points if you guess which one it is)
it's an interesting mix going on here:
1. they're coming down hard on people openly selling pirated VCDs/DVDs
2. but internet is largely uncensored, unlimited broadband 1mbps at equivalent of US $22/month
3. satellite TV has tons of shows, hbo, cinemax, alias, cnn, al-jazerra, bbcworld, cnbc, cartoon network, nick, etc, etc, etc...
4. all satellite TV is censored by the satellite company to a PG-13 level though, while quite a nice huge selection, some titles are a bit behind the US
thus see point no.2 and all i will say is that satellite TV here just finished showing Alias season 3, and i have had the privelege of watching episode 1 and 2 of Alias season 4 through other means.... and i might just be watching season 4 episode 3 this evening
edit1: and i've just checked out recently the 1st episode of the new US animated comedy American Dad... while definitely it is a roasting satire of right-wing US policies, i don't think people here would 'get' it in general and unlikely that it would make it on Satellite or free-to-air TV here....
Probably, this is just the one I have and it works great form me. I love renting DVDs and record/encode at the same time I'm watching it, cough Macrovision filter cough. Pretty cool stuff, I'm sure the EyeTV is just as good.
yeah it even uses the same awesome software
you know, it'd be a lot higher quality if you'd just rip [NON COPYWRITED] DVDs to your hard drive using mactheripper, dvd2one, and dvdimager
you know, it'd be a lot higher quality if you'd just rip [NON COPYWRITED] DVDs to your hard drive using mactheripper, dvd2one, and dvdimager
hey slughead and relic... yeah, both good points y'all have made.
but i am intrigued with the plextor's HARDWARE encoding of mpeg4, specs say standard quality 720x480 mpeg4 gives about 15mb/minute...
let's say you use the S-Video input from your satellite receiver or DVD player, i wonder what quality is like, see, after watching/recording whatever it is, voila, you have your mpeg4 file, no need to re-compress after ripping, say...
so anyway to end my rambling i would say i am curious as to what the mpeg4 standard quality is like using S-Video in from Sat/Cable/DVD player...
One is analog TV broadcast from my Hollywood DV bridge using S-Video with a high-end VCR. (I know it ends with .mov, but it says it used MPEG-4 in the file)
The other is a pure digital signal from my EyeTV 400 HDTV tuner. (hence the black bars)
One is analog TV broadcast from my Hollywood DV bridge using S-Video with a high-end VCR. (I know it ends with .mov, but it says it used MPEG-4 in the file)
The other is a pure digital signal from my EyeTV 400 HDTV tuner. (hence the black bars)
jesus christ no comparison there
very noice on the EyeTV 400... i think that's the one my brother is considering for the UK, digital terrestial, HDTV capable... the fact that you can pull the MPEG-2 digital signal pretty much untouched (right?) means you get a pretty damn clean TV signal in...
you can probably record and watch most of the time in just MPEG2, MPEG-4 re-compression only for when you want to *ahem* do other stuff with it or squeeze it down a bit...
looks sweet with hardware mpeg4 and hardware divx encoding
but unlike eyeTV 400 like RIAA's-most-wanted demoed above, it doesn't pull a clean highres digital signal from the digital receiver box, it uses S-video from what i can see...
edit1: looks like my previous posts on this thread went through uncensored (for now )
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My take on downloading TV shows may not be politically correct, but it is justifiable. If "they" want money for a show, they should release it on DVD. Everything else is fair game.
The problem I have with your request is that Star Trek, Simpspns, and The Pretender are all out on DVD's. If you were to ask for something like Sea Quest, Viper, Time Trax, Tail Spin, The Tick, or other lost gems of TV history, I could set you up with my morality in tact.
Originally posted by Ebby
What broadcasters want you to think is: If you didn't record it, you can't have it. That said, I'm sure any site I put here will be removed because of what else they host. It is certainly a gray area and now there is a huge struggle over it's control. This is why the FCC wants a broadcast flag on digital TV signals in the first place. However, it cripples fair use once again an destined for a nasty legal battle.
My take on downloading TV shows may not be politically correct, but it is justifiable. If "they" want money for a show, they should release it on DVD. Everything else is fair game.
The problem I have with your request is that Star Trek, Simpspns, and The Pretender are all out on DVD's. If you were to ask for something like Sea Quest, Viper, Time Trax, Tail Spin, The Tick, or other lost gems of TV history, I could set you up with my morality in tact.
RIAA's most wanted has morality ?
Wired Magazine in the recent months has run a huge article on BitTorrent and "darknets" and discusses downloading of TV and movies, so not such a biggie to openly mention BitTorrent here... But that's all I will say for now
... iTunes CinemaStore... when oh when??
I've been copying shows on my EyeTV 200 for months now, it's fantastic.
I only watch commercials during news shows, all the other shows I watch I pre-record, edit out commercials as I'm watching the first time. Eventually I'm going to archive them on DVD, which is easy and lossless since they're already in mpeg-2.
It wouldn't be fair for companies if I were to give these DVDs to friends, but it'd hardly be fair to me to be prosecuted for agreeing to a license agreement that doesn't exist.
I think it has to do with distribution--even many freeware programs insist that you not mirror their product under penalty of... torture. In this case it obviously has to do with commercials not being seen etc etc.
Doesn't make any sense, but then again, it's a mix between public airwave rights and capitalism.
Originally posted by Aquatic
I need to get TiVo...Or EyeTV...
I personally prefer the Plextor .
The Ultimate PVR for the Mac
The Plextor ConvertX PVR for the Mac is the ultimate personal video recorder for the Mac. The PX-TV402U allows you to connect to a satellite TV, cable TV or broadcast TV signal and record programs to your Mac. You can then watch the video from the Mac or burn it to DVD for playback on a DVD player. You can also connect a camcorder, VCR or DVD player to record home videos to the Mac. The heart of the PX-TV402U is its multi-format encoder chip which converts video to the MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 formats as it is being recorded to the Mac.
Featuring the Award-Winning Elgato EyeTV PVR Software
Use the award-winning Elgato EyeTV software to watch, pause or record video to your Mac. EyeTV has a built-in electronic programming guide to see what?s on and to easily schedule recordings. EyeTV has a built-in video editor to make it easy to cut out unwanted scenes from your video. EyeTV also has the ability to export videos to the most popular Mac software like Apple iMovie, iDVD, DVD Studio Pro and Roxio Toast.
Originally posted by Relic
The Plextor ConvertX PVR for the Mac is the ultimate personal video recorder for the Mac. The PX-TV402U allows you to connect to a satellite TV, cable TV or broadcast TV signal and record programs to your Mac. You can then watch the video from the Mac or burn it to DVD for playback on a DVD player. You can also connect a camcorder, VCR or DVD player to record home videos to the Mac. The heart of the PX-TV402U is its multi-format encoder chip which converts video to the MPEG-1, MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 formats as it is being recorded to the Mac.
It looks like pretty much the same thing...
Originally posted by slughead
It looks like pretty much the same thing...
Probably, this is just the one I have and it works great form me. I love renting DVDs and record/encode at the same time I'm watching it, cough Macrovision filter cough. Pretty cool stuff, I'm sure the EyeTV is just as good.
Originally posted by Relic
Since I live in Switzerland I can never get any new Episodes of Simpson?s. Torrents have been a godsend to that problem. Literally one hour after the Simpson?s end on Sunday I can download that episode. Doing this doesn?t affect my conscience one bit; I figured if Fox wanted me to pay for this content they would be offering a broadband live stream. Until such a time, just call me legal bate, thank goodness I don?t live in the US.
well currently i am living in one of the Not-So-Axis-Of-Evil-But-We've-Got-Our-Eye-On-You muslim countries (one of the most liberal and multicultural muslim countries, bonus points if you guess which one it is)
it's an interesting mix going on here:
1. they're coming down hard on people openly selling pirated VCDs/DVDs
2. but internet is largely uncensored, unlimited broadband 1mbps at equivalent of US $22/month
3. satellite TV has tons of shows, hbo, cinemax, alias, cnn, al-jazerra, bbcworld, cnbc, cartoon network, nick, etc, etc, etc...
4. all satellite TV is censored by the satellite company to a PG-13 level though, while quite a nice huge selection, some titles are a bit behind the US
thus see point no.2 and all i will say is that satellite TV here just finished showing Alias season 3, and i have had the privelege of watching episode 1 and 2 of Alias season 4 through other means.... and i might just be watching season 4 episode 3 this evening
edit1: and i've just checked out recently the 1st episode of the new US animated comedy American Dad... while definitely it is a roasting satire of right-wing US policies, i don't think people here would 'get' it in general and unlikely that it would make it on Satellite or free-to-air TV here....
Originally posted by Relic
Probably, this is just the one I have and it works great form me. I love renting DVDs and record/encode at the same time I'm watching it, cough Macrovision filter cough. Pretty cool stuff, I'm sure the EyeTV is just as good.
yeah it even uses the same awesome software
you know, it'd be a lot higher quality if you'd just rip [NON COPYWRITED] DVDs to your hard drive using mactheripper, dvd2one, and dvdimager
Originally posted by slughead
yeah it even uses the same awesome software
you know, it'd be a lot higher quality if you'd just rip [NON COPYWRITED] DVDs to your hard drive using mactheripper, dvd2one, and dvdimager
Yeah, none copywrited, ok.
Originally posted by slughead
yeah it even uses the same awesome software
you know, it'd be a lot higher quality if you'd just rip [NON COPYWRITED] DVDs to your hard drive using mactheripper, dvd2one, and dvdimager
hey slughead and relic... yeah, both good points y'all have made.
but i am intrigued with the plextor's HARDWARE encoding of mpeg4, specs say standard quality 720x480 mpeg4 gives about 15mb/minute...
let's say you use the S-Video input from your satellite receiver or DVD player, i wonder what quality is like, see, after watching/recording whatever it is, voila, you have your mpeg4 file, no need to re-compress after ripping, say...
so anyway to end my rambling i would say i am curious as to what the mpeg4 standard quality is like using S-Video in from Sat/Cable/DVD player...
Originally posted by sunilraman
so anyway to end my rambling i would say i am curious as to what the mpeg4 standard quality is like using S-Video in from Sat/Cable/DVD player...
Check it out: http://sporknet.game-server.cc/~web/mpeg4/
One is analog TV broadcast from my Hollywood DV bridge using S-Video with a high-end VCR. (I know it ends with .mov, but it says it used MPEG-4 in the file)
The other is a pure digital signal from my EyeTV 400 HDTV tuner. (hence the black bars)
Originally posted by Ebby
Check it out: http://sporknet.game-server.cc/~web/mpeg4/
One is analog TV broadcast from my Hollywood DV bridge using S-Video with a high-end VCR. (I know it ends with .mov, but it says it used MPEG-4 in the file)
The other is a pure digital signal from my EyeTV 400 HDTV tuner. (hence the black bars)
very noice on the EyeTV 400... i think that's the one my brother is considering for the UK, digital terrestial, HDTV capable... the fact that you can pull the MPEG-2 digital signal pretty much untouched (right?) means you get a pretty damn clean TV signal in...
you can probably record and watch most of the time in just MPEG2, MPEG-4 re-compression only for when you want to *ahem* do other stuff with it or squeeze it down a bit...
thanks buddy, great help...
Out of curiosity, is there really a statute that says you can't record TV and give it to friends?
I believe the warning on the bottom says it prohibits rebroadcast for COMMERCIAL use.
But, it's ok, if it's not kosher on AI then alright. Someone PM me or something though. I just don't have time to sit in front of a TV.
Originally posted by sunilraman
but i am intrigued with the plextor's HARDWARE encoding of mpeg4, specs say standard quality 720x480 mpeg4 gives about 15mb/minute...
The EyeTV 200 now does that as well.
Originally posted by ZO
check out www.miglia.com as well
looks sweet with hardware mpeg4 and hardware divx encoding
but unlike eyeTV 400 like RIAA's-most-wanted demoed above, it doesn't pull a clean highres digital signal from the digital receiver box, it uses S-video from what i can see...
edit1: looks like my previous posts on this thread went through uncensored