I will upgrade since I am too lazy (or just dread) reinstalling all my programs. However, I know some of you will do a clean install because you have the energy.
I will upgrade since I am too lazy (or just dread) reinstalling all my programs. However, I know some of you will do a clean install because you have the energy.
So, let's have it...what are YOU going to do?
Eric
I voted Clean Install, but as I said in the other thread, that's because I have 10.3 on its own partition and I can use Tiger's Migration Assistant to copy all the 10.3 data and non-Apple applications over to 10.4 automatically.
I upgrade installed Panther and after a couple months wanted the default bash shell, with all my fink apps etc all rebuilt. Unfortunately, my external HD that made my backup on decided to corrupt itself and DiskWarrior was unsuccessful. Fortunately I don't have anything more valuable than some old documents.
For some reason clean installs are always "Snappier?" Why is this? Does it still apply to Tiger? I did it for Panther. I'll probably do it for Tiger. Erase the drive, install it, then migrate my stuff by hand.
For some reason clean installs are always "Snappier?" Why is this? Does it still apply to Tiger?
i think it's kinda like legacy code in apps. there are just some files from who knows when and where that are all over your system but not big enough to worry about. i think giving things like spotlight a clean slate will keep indexing better.
I'm planning on buying a new machine with Tiger on it. Does that count as a clean install?
I also have a B&W G3/350 that I will likely install Tiger on. That machine still has the original HD as the boot drive partitioned for OS 9 and OS X. All user data (Home directory), apps, etc. are on external drives. The only things on the "root" drive are things that absolutely want to be on the root drive. I'll probably upgrade on that machine and see how things go; if it acts flakey at all, I'll do a clean install.
Regarding OS installs: I wish Apple would make it easier to put Home and Applications folders on partitions/drives other than the boot drive. I like to arrange my machine as:
Boot partition - Core OS only
Data partition - Home directories for users
Application partition
It's not too hard to change things around, but it's not dead easy either.
I'm unsure at this point. I've had my iMac G4 with Panther for almost a year now. It'd probably be better (not to mention faster) to do a fresh install, but I have no clue how much I'd need to back up. I mean I have all sorts of applications and stuff that I don't have CDs for. So much downloaded stuff. I mean of my 80GB HD, I only have 25GB left. So I'm unsure what I'll do. I may ask for suggestions once Tiger is released.
i may well do a clean install if i feel keen. installed a lot of stuff since i got my pb with panther and now i have more of an idea what software i'm in to.
I plan on buying my G5 a new hard drive to put Tiger on. That way if anything goes wrong, I can save my old OS and keep it around for awhile before migrating all of my data.
I'm not 100 percent clear, having never done an OS X upgrade, what all does the archive and install delete? Does it get rid of all the applications? They don't go into the archive do they?
Can I use "backup" (the apple program) to restore some of my files and preferences, or would that not work, since it is a different OS?
My plan - data cd export for itunes, 60 day idisk trial and networked windows boxes for the random word docs and PDFs
Wipe it out, start fresh, with something like spotlight, I want a clean install, think of the time and utter PITA of the initial index, surely in an upgrade something would break, it is the nature of the beast.
I am still not totally sure but i will start with two backups of my panther disk (one in a disk image to be put ina a safe as usual) and the other taking up an external driev that i can boot off.
I will then do the upgrade. If it seems slow or soemhting like that, i will clear the disk and do a fresh install.
Do the disks that come with your computer allow you to install the iLife applications only? Is that the only thing I'll need to get off of them? Oh, I guess also the model-specific software titles included with my Powerbook. However, can I install those from the disks that came with the Powerbook, after I do an erase and install of Panther?
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On my Powerbook Im going to upgrade since I went through a full reinstall just a few months ago.
Originally posted by aplnub
I will upgrade since I am too lazy (or just dread) reinstalling all my programs. However, I know some of you will do a clean install because you have the energy.
So, let's have it...what are YOU going to do?
Eric
I voted Clean Install, but as I said in the other thread, that's because I have 10.3 on its own partition and I can use Tiger's Migration Assistant to copy all the 10.3 data and non-Apple applications over to 10.4 automatically.
So yeah, I want to start fresh.
Indeed, even in OS8, OS9, etc are nice and fast the first few days/weeks.
Its crazy that in all these years, auto-maintainece is still so primitive if not inexistant...
Originally posted by Aquatic
For some reason clean installs are always "Snappier?" Why is this? Does it still apply to Tiger?
i think it's kinda like legacy code in apps. there are just some files from who knows when and where that are all over your system but not big enough to worry about. i think giving things like spotlight a clean slate will keep indexing better.
I also have a B&W G3/350 that I will likely install Tiger on. That machine still has the original HD as the boot drive partitioned for OS 9 and OS X. All user data (Home directory), apps, etc. are on external drives. The only things on the "root" drive are things that absolutely want to be on the root drive. I'll probably upgrade on that machine and see how things go; if it acts flakey at all, I'll do a clean install.
Regarding OS installs: I wish Apple would make it easier to put Home and Applications folders on partitions/drives other than the boot drive. I like to arrange my machine as:
- Boot partition - Core OS only
- Data partition - Home directories for users
- Application partition
It's not too hard to change things around, but it's not dead easy either.- Jasen.
Originally posted by jon-e-orange
I'll clone my HD over to my external HD then do a clean install and use the migration software.
Migration software? Can you explain a little further? Will it move applications?
Eric
Originally posted by celebi23
Backup then archive and install
I'm not 100 percent clear, having never done an OS X upgrade, what all does the archive and install delete? Does it get rid of all the applications? They don't go into the archive do they?
Can I use "backup" (the apple program) to restore some of my files and preferences, or would that not work, since it is a different OS?
Wipe it out, start fresh, with something like spotlight, I want a clean install, think of the time and utter PITA of the initial index, surely in an upgrade something would break, it is the nature of the beast.
I will then do the upgrade. If it seems slow or soemhting like that, i will clear the disk and do a fresh install.
Originally posted by aplnub
Migration software? Can you explain a little further? Will it move applications?
Eric
Yep. Not the ones that just got installed - just all the others. It's smart.