Maybe this has been discusses already ... but I think Apple should sell a low-end Xserve to compete with the Cobalt's Raq's. Something for $1500 or less.
Too many posts have I read that mention that the unlimited OS X sevrer license is basically free. So, dropping it to 10 users won't cut the cost of an Xserve. It will make it 'low end' though. I don't think that there is even a market for a 'low end' Xserve from Apple. Those that need servers usually aren't that concerned with getting the cheap way in.
<strong>Too many posts have I read that mention that the unlimited OS X sevrer license is basically free. So, dropping it to 10 users won't cut the cost of an Xserve. It will make it 'low end' though. I don't think that there is even a market for a 'low end' Xserve from Apple. Those that need servers usually aren't that concerned with getting the cheap way in.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That bugs me too. Steve Jobs has repeatedly said OSX Server is not factored into the cost. What I meant was to scale back the user license as a way of Apple being able to offset their low cost once a company expands beyond 10 clients
The xServe should drop the 4 hard drives. I mean, not drop them totally, but give you an option to only have 1-max capacity. Rendering 3d and DV doesn't require more than one, if any, hard drive in the machine. You would think that now, with the xServe RAID, that the xServe wouldn't need to be such a storage solution. Maybe Apple could make a modular, barebones xServe for rendering and scientific stuff, kinda like the Linux "Briq". Apple could make an xServe the same 1U size, but replace the HD bays with hot-swap processor nodes, so you could add extra processors relatively inexpensively and easily. How many processors can OS X Server handle? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>The xServe should drop the 4 hard drives. I mean, not drop them totally, but give you an option to only have 1-max capacity. Rendering 3d and DV doesn't require more than one, if any, hard drive in the machine. You would think that now, with the xServe RAID, that the xServe wouldn't need to be such a storage solution. Maybe Apple could make a modular, barebones xServe for rendering and scientific stuff, kinda like the Linux "Briq". Apple could make an xServe the same 1U size, but replace the HD bays with hot-swap processor nodes, so you could add extra processors relatively inexpensively and easily. How many processors can OS X Server handle?
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All Apple would need is a 10 client OSX Server
8mb graphics
10/100/1000 Ethernet
Two HD bays.
<strong>Too many posts have I read that mention that the unlimited OS X sevrer license is basically free. So, dropping it to 10 users won't cut the cost of an Xserve. It will make it 'low end' though. I don't think that there is even a market for a 'low end' Xserve from Apple. Those that need servers usually aren't that concerned with getting the cheap way in.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That bugs me too. Steve Jobs has repeatedly said OSX Server is not factored into the cost. What I meant was to scale back the user license as a way of Apple being able to offset their low cost once a company expands beyond 10 clients
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<strong>The xServe should drop the 4 hard drives. I mean, not drop them totally, but give you an option to only have 1-max capacity. Rendering 3d and DV doesn't require more than one, if any, hard drive in the machine. You would think that now, with the xServe RAID, that the xServe wouldn't need to be such a storage solution. Maybe Apple could make a modular, barebones xServe for rendering and scientific stuff, kinda like the Linux "Briq". Apple could make an xServe the same 1U size, but replace the HD bays with hot-swap processor nodes, so you could add extra processors relatively inexpensively and easily. How many processors can OS X Server handle?
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You mean blades? Oh and more hard drives is helpful.
Seems to me you just want a powermac that looks like an xserve for no practical reason.
<strong>the x serve is low end</strong><hr></blockquote>
that point has been made
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that point has been made</strong><hr></blockquote>
the xserve is low end.
When is Apple going to attack the Midrange Server market.
Something like a 2U Server with some OOMPFH!!