outstanding, the imac gets a 100x better update than the PM and expandability aside they pretty much have the same performance as a PM. Apple is on crack, they better release something at WWDC or the PM line is dead.
Because I was going to need a new Mac in July for some heavy duty PS, AE, and Motion work, I was happy with the PowerMac updates last week and was ready to order the dual 2.3 when I got back from Vegas today.
Well, this iMac update has really blurred the lines for the NEEDS of most.
The announcement of these new iMacs today, just 3 business days after refreshing the PowerMac line, and the "disappearance" of the PM tile from Apple's homepage in the same 3 days, makes me feel like they're planning an announcement next month.
I will be able to continue to do my scanning, color correcting, and pre-viz work on my older Macs for the next month until WWDC, with the hopes that Apple is ready to give the PM a more complete update.
wow, i'm blown away by this update. now i could go to an apple store and pick one up off the shelf. this has nothing that i NEED to BTO. very impressive. DL Superdrive, 512 MB ram, 2.0 ghz, 128 mb Radeon 9600, thats an awesome deal on the mid-range model. its sad cuz thats the same price as the G3 iMac i'm using now cost 5 years ago... and its a piece of crap for the most part... *tear*
I will be able to continue to do my scanning, color correcting, and pre-viz work on my older Macs for the next month until WWDC, with the hopes that Apple is ready to give the PM a more complete update.
<off-topic>That would really PO a lot of people who are buying current models now, unless it's some kind of new super-pro line that's more expensive than current models.</off-topic>
I'm pretty impressed with the new iMacs. Wish I didn't already have a mini and a big display, and I'd buy one.
wow, that middle configuration is an outstanding deal. all that extra stuuf that blows any other non-apple computer under 5,000 away and for the same cost. If only apple could have done this wwell the the powermacs.
Awesome update. The most important thing I think is the 512 megs of RAM. FINALLY they get it. It looks like Tiger will want a LOT of RAM.
Only thing that really pissed me off is that they do NOT LET YOU GET A SUPERDRIVE on the 1.8. If they did I might have bought it today. Because of this I think I'll wait until the next update to trade in my PowerBook (with a SuperDrive in it) for an iMac G5 (lowest end but with SuperDrive DL.)
No FireWire 800 is kind of annoying, but it won't be really glaring omission unless they don't add it in the next update.
<off-topic>That would really PO a lot of people who are buying current models now, unless it's some kind of new super-pro line that's more expensive than current models.</off-topic>
I'm pretty impressed with the new iMacs. Wish I didn't already have a mini and a big display, and I'd buy one.
I agree people would be a little PO'd.
This iMac update is the reason why we got PM updates first. How would Apple look if they announce Final Cut Studio at NAB, refresh the iMac line the next week, THEN announce the "new" PowerMacs?
Today's announcement is a nice update and will please a lot of folks.
One problem is that both 800 and Gigabit use more power than do their slower brethren.
Apple most likely feels that battery usage, which is already too great, is more important. At least for now.
Suppose your right. I'd always thought, nine times out of ten, if your using FW800 and GigE you were at a desk and it is more likely you'd be using a power adapter.
pm me and I`ll give you my adress so you can send it to me...
But seriously folks.. this is an awesome update,I cant think of an aw damn they should have,they did everything right with this one,they must have seen all the Imac bitching on here.
Awesome update. The most important thing I think is the 512 megs of RAM. FINALLY they get it. It looks like Tiger will want a LOT of RAM.
Only thing that really pissed me off is that they do NOT LET YOU GET A SUPERDRIVE on the 1.8. If they did I might have bought it today. Because of this I think I'll wait until the next update to trade in my PowerBook (with a SuperDrive in it) for an iMac G5 (lowest end but with SuperDrive DL.)
No FireWire 800 is kind of annoying, but it won't be really glaring omission unless they don't add it in the next update.
Only complaint I have is when I rodered there was no other option for shipping but the free one. hence must go ground. I was willing to pay for 2 day.
I'm honestly curious, have you ever seen a PC with 4+ USB ports, all of which were full? I work at MIT, and I've never seen it. Also, what prevents that rare USB-device-freak from using one of the USB 2.0 ports to plug in a 4, 8, 12 port USB 1.1 hub?
Just because you work at MIT and the so called "smartest" city, doesn't mean you have experience.
My PC has 8 USB ports and I use all of them. I am definitely not the only one either. There is a reason why they make hubs and more USB ports on the motherboard / logic board.
Just because you don't use it at MIT doesn't mean the whole entire world doesn't.
Here are just some possible devices one could have plugged in to their Mac or PC
1. Keyboard
2. Mouse
3. Scanner
4. Photo printer
5. B&W / non photo printer
6. Some sort of game pad
7. External HD
8. Keychain based storage device
9. Other multimedia equipment (like an mp3 player other then an ipod)
From what I've seen many times on PC's all those USB ports are running on the same bus, that's definitely the case on low cost Dell's. Plugging in all those periphreals you are really slowing everything down.
Comments
Originally posted by melgross
Did you read something that said that they weren't seperate firewire busses?
To my knowledge, they are always two busses.
Nothing in Apple System Profiler implies that it should be two busses.
Originally posted by JLL
Nothing in Apple System Profiler implies that it should be two busses.
I just checked profiler on all four Powermacs here at home, and it doesn't indicate much either. But there two separate busses for Firewire.
My Firewire cards also have separate busses, but it doesn't indicate that either.
Profiler is not known for it's accuracy.
Originally posted by eji
What about the voltage? Is it still only 120V for the US, universal auto-switching everywhere else?
from Apple's Tech Spec website: Line voltage: 100-240V AC
Originally posted by BJNY
I want to buy the new iMac 20" 2GHz. Has anyone seen any interesting mods to avoid all that white plastic look?
I'll make a hand beaten copper slipcover for it in my shop if you want.
They charge $400. Add another $100 if you want a custom color other than their choices.
Any other mods available?
Well, this iMac update has really blurred the lines for the NEEDS of most.
The announcement of these new iMacs today, just 3 business days after refreshing the PowerMac line, and the "disappearance" of the PM tile from Apple's homepage in the same 3 days, makes me feel like they're planning an announcement next month.
I will be able to continue to do my scanning, color correcting, and pre-viz work on my older Macs for the next month until WWDC, with the hopes that Apple is ready to give the PM a more complete update.
Originally posted by Unfiltered
I will be able to continue to do my scanning, color correcting, and pre-viz work on my older Macs for the next month until WWDC, with the hopes that Apple is ready to give the PM a more complete update.
<off-topic>That would really PO a lot of people who are buying current models now, unless it's some kind of new super-pro line that's more expensive than current models.</off-topic>
I'm pretty impressed with the new iMacs. Wish I didn't already have a mini and a big display, and I'd buy one.
Originally posted by nowayout11
Decent update. The graphics and RAM are what they should have lauched the iMac G5 with. But the other stuff is bonus. Not much to BTO here.
Looking at the Apple store, I was struck by how little there was to BTO. Quite a well rounded machine.
Only thing that really pissed me off is that they do NOT LET YOU GET A SUPERDRIVE on the 1.8. If they did I might have bought it today. Because of this I think I'll wait until the next update to trade in my PowerBook (with a SuperDrive in it) for an iMac G5 (lowest end but with SuperDrive DL.)
No FireWire 800 is kind of annoying, but it won't be really glaring omission unless they don't add it in the next update.
Originally posted by iDave
<off-topic>That would really PO a lot of people who are buying current models now, unless it's some kind of new super-pro line that's more expensive than current models.</off-topic>
I'm pretty impressed with the new iMacs. Wish I didn't already have a mini and a big display, and I'd buy one.
I agree people would be a little PO'd.
This iMac update is the reason why we got PM updates first. How would Apple look if they announce Final Cut Studio at NAB, refresh the iMac line the next week, THEN announce the "new" PowerMacs?
Today's announcement is a nice update and will please a lot of folks.
Originally posted by melgross
One problem is that both 800 and Gigabit use more power than do their slower brethren.
Apple most likely feels that battery usage, which is already too great, is more important. At least for now.
Suppose your right. I'd always thought, nine times out of ten, if your using FW800 and GigE you were at a desk and it is more likely you'd be using a power adapter.
pm me and I`ll give you my adress so you can send it to me...
But seriously folks.. this is an awesome update,I cant think of an aw damn they should have,they did everything right with this one,they must have seen all the Imac bitching on here.
Originally posted by Aquatic
Awesome update. The most important thing I think is the 512 megs of RAM. FINALLY they get it. It looks like Tiger will want a LOT of RAM.
Only thing that really pissed me off is that they do NOT LET YOU GET A SUPERDRIVE on the 1.8. If they did I might have bought it today. Because of this I think I'll wait until the next update to trade in my PowerBook (with a SuperDrive in it) for an iMac G5 (lowest end but with SuperDrive DL.)
No FireWire 800 is kind of annoying, but it won't be really glaring omission unless they don't add it in the next update.
Only complaint I have is when I rodered there was no other option for shipping but the free one. hence must go ground. I was willing to pay for 2 day.
Originally posted by concentricity
I'm honestly curious, have you ever seen a PC with 4+ USB ports, all of which were full? I work at MIT, and I've never seen it. Also, what prevents that rare USB-device-freak from using one of the USB 2.0 ports to plug in a 4, 8, 12 port USB 1.1 hub?
Just because you work at MIT and the so called "smartest" city, doesn't mean you have experience.
My PC has 8 USB ports and I use all of them. I am definitely not the only one either. There is a reason why they make hubs and more USB ports on the motherboard / logic board.
Just because you don't use it at MIT doesn't mean the whole entire world doesn't.
Here are just some possible devices one could have plugged in to their Mac or PC
1. Keyboard
2. Mouse
3. Scanner
4. Photo printer
5. B&W / non photo printer
6. Some sort of game pad
7. External HD
8. Keychain based storage device
9. Other multimedia equipment (like an mp3 player other then an ipod)
Originally posted by yvovandoorn
My PC has 8 USB ports and I use all of them.
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From what I've seen many times on PC's all those USB ports are running on the same bus, that's definitely the case on low cost Dell's. Plugging in all those periphreals you are really slowing everything down.