Of course not, since these 5 months are not sufficient to build up appropriate software support from the developers.
of course it. the majority are well on their way.
this transition is not like previous transitions. it is much easier and quicker.
Apple has no other choice then to press ahead with the transition. they have no where else to go.
Developers will be there, they will have had more than enough time and they will love the oppurtunity to get more revenue by selling intel version upgrades
this transition is not like previous transitions. it is much easier and quicker.
Apple has no other choice then to press ahead with the transition. they have no where else to go.
Developers will be there, they will have had more than enough time and they will love the oppurtunity to get more revenue by selling intel version upgrades
Sorry, all this is just your guess, nothing more. Except the fact, of course, that Apple has no where to go. But it will take time.
put your money on it. again, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
$100 on the possibility that less than two of the products iBook, Powerbook and Mac Mini shipping from Apple will have at least one model with the main CPU being from Intel AND not a PPC.
(Is gambling legal on sites like this one? If not the offer is hereby withdrawn)
i posted this in the other topic as well, but i am angry at the moment so:
They actually raised the price of the Mac mini Here in the UK.
The basic config now costs £359, £20 pounds more than before.
That £359 is $625. The basic mini costs $125 or £72 more in the UK than USA. I am really dissapointed in Apple.
I wish you guys would at least try and get your facts straight before you start getting "angry" and "dissapointed".
The NEW UK price for the base Mac mini is £ 305.53 (without VAT !!!)
Today's exchange rate is 1.7386 dollars to the pound.
That comes to around 531.20 dollars US.
So thats .... what 32 bucks more!
Recently sterling has been slipping against the value of the dollar. You should have complained a few months ago when (even at the old price) the Mac mini cost about 40 to 50 dollars more.
I think the writing is on the wall. These "updates" show that Apple simply wants to get rid of current stock and be done with it. I see no other explanation. They didn't change anything on the board, only things the user could do on their own all along. It still has the same GPU which isn't even Core Image compatible. It still has the same Superdrive which isn't DL compatible. You can't even get a 100GB hard drive build-to-order. This is the Mac to lure PC users to switch?
They treated the Cube the same way just before it was scrapped. It's over.
Funny - it seems to be a hot seller on Amazon, unlike the overpriced cube.
I run a hardware manufacturing floor with several old iMacs, the colored kind with the CRT, probably about year 2000 models. The ones that were easy to do, we upgraded to 384 MB of memory, the old green ones we didn't bother because they were too old or the case was too hard to open or we needed it to remain in production (these Macs run 24x7x365).
Since the Mini came out I've wanted to upgrade the entire floor to one common hardware platform, all with identical memory, monitor, keyboard, etc. With only 256 MB of memory and Tiger on the horizon I was disappointed that the Mini was not available with 512 from the beginning, and I've told my Apple rep this more times than he wanted to hear.
Today they came through for us. Now one part number, fully supported by Apple (remember, they don't support machines with 3rd party memory), available today *and* I don't have to purchase an additional copy of Tiger or iLife for all of them.
I'm ordering ten today.
Yeah, I know it's not got the latest in graphics and the CPU is slow, but for the people who work for me on the old 550 MHz 1024x768 G3's, there is dancing in the hallways.
Oooooh, someone can't stand to hear criticism of Apple. The only thing worse than a PC Troll is an Apple Apologist. If you blindly accept everything Apple gives you as gold then they will put as little effort as possible into future products. We are already seeing this today.
There's also this minor event called the "Intel transition" happening soon. You may have heard about it? The entire G4 product line is essentially on hold until that starts happening.
Sorry, try again. You may have noticed that they actually updated the iBook today with a better graphics card, faster superdrive, etc. Isn't the iBook moving to Intel too? Then why did they update it if the entire G4 product line is on hold? Why did they update it and not the Mac mini?
The same thing happened with the Cube. Everyone was waiting for cheaper models or improved specs. What did they get? A press release stating it was being discontiunued. It's starting to look like the Mac mini will suffer the same fate.
1. Technically, it's not a Front Side Bus (FSB) since the Athlon64 has an on-die memory controller. It's better than a FSB.
2. I'm saying it's better than "1GHz" compared to the G5s since the G5's bus is only 64 bits wide. For example, if you were to say a 2GHz G5's bus runs at 1GHz, then you'd have to say that your Athlon64 bus runs at 2GHz "effective"--it's twice as fast as the G5's bus at throughput. And due to the Athlon64's on-die memroy controller, typical latencies are about 4 times better than the G5.
We use iPhoto because we use digital cameras to record various assembly issues and the easist way to describe something to someone 6,000 miles away is to send them images. Kind of low-tech, and certainly nothing like my personal photo album at home, but darn, iPhoto is so easy to use and handy around here we can't live without it. Any person in the manufacturing area can hook a camera up to one of the iMacs and instantly the picture is veiwable by the group, they can zoom in if need be and e-mail it in seconds. I look forward to using Minis because we will be able to use iSights and conference directly to our other sites and show them stuff live - we currently can't do this with the G3 iMacs and buying everyone a PowerBook is too expensive.
And there's one particular iMac that is the Music Server with about 40 GB of MP3's online and some killer speakers attached. Hey - we gotta' have tunes...
i don't think this is the case. i often check how hot the computers are running when i go to the apple store, and when i was there last week-ish i felt the mini again and it really doesn't run hot at all. certainly its a little warm after running for 12+ hours, but nothing like the notebooks.
also, with the mini sales, is it just me or wasn't it selling like crazy just a few weeks/months ago? i thought they were saying that it was selling more than they expected. am i wrong in this? was it a lie? whats the deal, cuz from what i remember, it hasn't been selling terribly like people are saying
Oooooh, someone can't stand to hear criticism of Apple. The only thing worse than a PC Troll is an Apple Apologist. If you blindly accept everything Apple gives you as gold then they will put as little effort as possible into future products. We are already seeing this today.
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I'm not an apologist. Far from it. Personal attack deleted - JL
Yes, the Mac Mini is going to be discontinue. That's what you want to believe. But you have no evidence and no reason yet you just keep responding with IT IS IT IS I SAY SO
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Originally posted by PB
Of course not, since these 5 months are not sufficient to build up appropriate software support from the developers.
of course it. the majority are well on their way.
this transition is not like previous transitions. it is much easier and quicker.
Apple has no other choice then to press ahead with the transition. they have no where else to go.
Developers will be there, they will have had more than enough time and they will love the oppurtunity to get more revenue by selling intel version upgrades
Ever heard of VAT? At 17.5%, that accounts for much of the difference.
Originally posted by Bronxite
of course it. the majority are well on their way.
this transition is not like previous transitions. it is much easier and quicker.
Apple has no other choice then to press ahead with the transition. they have no where else to go.
Developers will be there, they will have had more than enough time and they will love the oppurtunity to get more revenue by selling intel version upgrades
Sorry, all this is just your guess, nothing more. Except the fact, of course, that Apple has no where to go. But it will take time.
Originally posted by PB
Sorry, all this is just your guess, nothing more. Except the fact, of course, that Apple has no where to go. But it will take time.
put your money on it. again, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
Originally posted by Bronxite
put your money on it. again, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
$100 on the possibility that less than two of the products iBook, Powerbook and Mac Mini shipping from Apple will have at least one model with the main CPU being from Intel AND not a PPC.
(Is gambling legal on sites like this one? If not the offer is hereby withdrawn)
Originally posted by Bronxite
put your money on it. again, you'd have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
You just confirm what I say. It does not make sense to continue the discussion on such base. Sorry.
Originally posted by stustanley
i posted this in the other topic as well, but i am angry at the moment so:
They actually raised the price of the Mac mini Here in the UK.
The basic config now costs £359, £20 pounds more than before.
That £359 is $625. The basic mini costs $125 or £72 more in the UK than USA. I am really dissapointed in Apple.
I wish you guys would at least try and get your facts straight before you start getting "angry" and "dissapointed".
The NEW UK price for the base Mac mini is £ 305.53 (without VAT !!!)
Today's exchange rate is 1.7386 dollars to the pound.
That comes to around 531.20 dollars US.
So thats .... what 32 bucks more!
Recently sterling has been slipping against the value of the dollar. You should have complained a few months ago when (even at the old price) the Mac mini cost about 40 to 50 dollars more.
Originally posted by 1984
I think the writing is on the wall. These "updates" show that Apple simply wants to get rid of current stock and be done with it. I see no other explanation. They didn't change anything on the board, only things the user could do on their own all along. It still has the same GPU which isn't even Core Image compatible. It still has the same Superdrive which isn't DL compatible. You can't even get a 100GB hard drive build-to-order. This is the Mac to lure PC users to switch?
They treated the Cube the same way just before it was scrapped. It's over.
Funny - it seems to be a hot seller on Amazon, unlike the overpriced cube.
Originally posted by e1618978
Funny - it seems to be a hot seller on Amazon, unlike the overpriced cube.
Seems like a perfect reason for Apple to discontinue it, no?
Yet another nonsensical thread...
I run a hardware manufacturing floor with several old iMacs, the colored kind with the CRT, probably about year 2000 models. The ones that were easy to do, we upgraded to 384 MB of memory, the old green ones we didn't bother because they were too old or the case was too hard to open or we needed it to remain in production (these Macs run 24x7x365).
Since the Mini came out I've wanted to upgrade the entire floor to one common hardware platform, all with identical memory, monitor, keyboard, etc. With only 256 MB of memory and Tiger on the horizon I was disappointed that the Mini was not available with 512 from the beginning, and I've told my Apple rep this more times than he wanted to hear.
Today they came through for us. Now one part number, fully supported by Apple (remember, they don't support machines with 3rd party memory), available today *and* I don't have to purchase an additional copy of Tiger or iLife for all of them.
I'm ordering ten today.
Yeah, I know it's not got the latest in graphics and the CPU is slow, but for the people who work for me on the old 550 MHz 1024x768 G3's, there is dancing in the hallways.
-Gator
Originally posted by Bronxite
personal attack deleted- JL
Oooooh, someone can't stand to hear criticism of Apple. The only thing worse than a PC Troll is an Apple Apologist. If you blindly accept everything Apple gives you as gold then they will put as little effort as possible into future products. We are already seeing this today.
Originally posted by BRussell
There's also this minor event called the "Intel transition" happening soon. You may have heard about it? The entire G4 product line is essentially on hold until that starts happening.
Sorry, try again. You may have noticed that they actually updated the iBook today with a better graphics card, faster superdrive, etc. Isn't the iBook moving to Intel too? Then why did they update it if the entire G4 product line is on hold? Why did they update it and not the Mac mini?
The same thing happened with the Cube. Everyone was waiting for cheaper models or improved specs. What did they get? A press release stating it was being discontiunued. It's starting to look like the Mac mini will suffer the same fate.
Originally posted by Powelligator
I run a hardware manufacturing floor
...
I don't have to purchase an additional copy of Tiger or iLife for all of them.
Just out of curiosity, but what do you use iLife for in hardware manufacturing?
Originally posted by Placebo
The Mac mini, I'd guess, is a cooling nightmare.
Perhaps not more than an iBook 12". But if you are right on this one, then Apple, once again, trapped themselves in the design.
Originally posted by Existence
1. It's not a FSB bus
2. In Apple's marketing terminology, it should be a 2GHz bus since it's 128 bits wide.
Huh?
I'm running a Venice core Athlon 64, Socket 939 - I thought this was a genuine 1000mhz fsb - you're saying it's marketing fluff?
Here's my board.
Originally posted by serrano
Huh?
I'm running a Venice core Athlon 64, Socket 939 - I thought this was a genuine 1000mhz fsb - you're saying it's marketing fluff?
Here's my board.
1. Technically, it's not a Front Side Bus (FSB) since the Athlon64 has an on-die memory controller. It's better than a FSB.
2. I'm saying it's better than "1GHz" compared to the G5s since the G5's bus is only 64 bits wide. For example, if you were to say a 2GHz G5's bus runs at 1GHz, then you'd have to say that your Athlon64 bus runs at 2GHz "effective"--it's twice as fast as the G5's bus at throughput. And due to the Athlon64's on-die memroy controller, typical latencies are about 4 times better than the G5.
And there's one particular iMac that is the Music Server with about 40 GB of MP3's online and some killer speakers attached. Hey - we gotta' have tunes...
-Gator
The Mac mini, I'd guess, is a cooling nightmare.
i don't think this is the case. i often check how hot the computers are running when i go to the apple store, and when i was there last week-ish i felt the mini again and it really doesn't run hot at all. certainly its a little warm after running for 12+ hours, but nothing like the notebooks.
also, with the mini sales, is it just me or wasn't it selling like crazy just a few weeks/months ago? i thought they were saying that it was selling more than they expected. am i wrong in this? was it a lie? whats the deal, cuz from what i remember, it hasn't been selling terribly like people are saying
Originally posted by 1984
Oooooh, someone can't stand to hear criticism of Apple. The only thing worse than a PC Troll is an Apple Apologist. If you blindly accept everything Apple gives you as gold then they will put as little effort as possible into future products. We are already seeing this today.
moderation comments deleted - JL
I'm not an apologist. Far from it. Personal attack deleted - JL
Yes, the Mac Mini is going to be discontinue. That's what you want to believe. But you have no evidence and no reason yet you just keep responding with IT IS IT IS I SAY SO