1. Do the side buttons have a physical click you can feel, or only an electronic sound?
Not sure about a sound (I'm running it on 10.3.9 currently), but there is no "click" per se. The 2 pads just "give" slightly.
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2. Are they so sensitive that it's easy to trigger the "squeeze" by accident?
Not at all. You have to conciously squeeze them.
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3. Does pressing down on the ball have a physical click you can feel, or only an electronic sound? Does pressing the ball make the whole top shell move down?
The ball does not push down into the mouse. It acts just like the right and left clicks, except in the center. What I mean by this is that the main hinge of the mouse is activated.
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4. Is the ball-click so sensitive that it's easy to click it by accident?
Not at all. It has to be a full-on press to make the hinge click.
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5. Can you rest two fingers on the two "virtual" button regions, and click EITHER one without lifting the other finger away first? (I'm hoping it doesn't just sense that your finger is "touching," but rather can tell which finger is touching HARDER.)
Looks like when both fingers are on the mouse, it registers as a left-click.
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6. If you are ALREADY holding one of the two "buttons," can you somehow trigger the other button too? (Like for games with 2-button firing.) Could you hold left-click down and then do a right-double-click, for instance, without losing the left function still being held down?
No. There is only 1 hinge mechanism for all "three" buttons.
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7. And if #6 does work, does it work in both directions? Hold left first, or hold right first? (Again--for games. The ball and the squeeze don't sound ideal for alt-firing)
It sounds like you have to lift your left finger AWAY from the mouse or you can't right-click. The mouse does NOT know you're pressing harder with one finger and merely "resting" the other.
Too bad--that would have been a better solution. Having to get in the habit of lifting a finger is going to bother many buyers.
$50.... that's what I paid for my MX1000, and it's as-good-as USB wireless (55% better refresh rate than bluetooth) and has the best sensor on the market.
Nice attempt by Apple though, shows they really know how to put a new spin on existing technology, even if it is inferior.
That whole lifting the finger thing is giving me a migraine just thinking about it.. I've used a mouse for 18 years, I'm not going to change.
Give all of your PC friends an iPod and Mighty Mouse and they will be all set to switch when Vista comes out all buggy in 2007!!
$49 is actually a great price and I assume the shell design will basically last forever compared to all of the mechanics of scroll wheels and mechanical buttons!
I was hoping for a clickwheel on this, but maybe the little button will be easy to use.
disco, how do you vertical scroll a long document most efficiently? Do you just keep tweaking the little button? Hmmm, I won't go there. My biggest issue with scroll wheels was the need to grind thru pages with my finger like I was grating cheese.
Lastly, I wish Apple would go back to translucent graphite rather than make everything so white.
$50.... that's what I paid for my MX1000, and it's as-good-as USB wireless (55% better refresh rate than bluetooth) and has the best sensor on the market.
Nice attempt by Apple though, shows they really know how to put a new spin on existing technology, even if it is inferior.
That whole lifting the finger thing is giving me a migraine just thinking about it.. I've used a mouse for 18 years, I'm not going to change.
Yeah, the the MX1000's sensitivity is the absolute top of the line. I bet the MM is just reusing the optical sensor from the other one.
Give all of your PC friends an iPod and Mighty Mouse and they will be all set to switch when Vista comes out all buggy in 2007!!
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
And what's a mouse - software?
When you release a product as a multi-platform solution, and it's a hardware on top of that, you better fucking include the same control panel you include for Macs because people are not gonna spend $49 on a MM just to realize that it doesn't behave any better than a $3 Dell mouse at their local Radio Shack.
Squeezing, Sensors, Right Click and all the goods work only when implemented through software. If MM uses the same driver as your generic Win32 mouse, and it only has one *physical* button, then it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal one-button mice.
In which case, why the hell should I pay $49 for it?
If MM uses the same driver as your generic Win32 mouse, and it only has one *physical* button, then it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal one-button mice.
In which case, why the hell should I pay $49 for it? [/B]
But it doesn't behave exactly the same as a one-button mouse when plugged into a Win PC. It simply can't be customized. So you have left, right, scroll, scroll-click all working.
Perhaps you meant it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal PC two-button + clickable scroll wheel mouse?
They had them in-stock at the Apple Store. I picked one up at lunch. The Scroll "ball" is remarkably smooth. You can't even really feel it spinning. I'd like to take this puppy apart to see how it ticks.
I'll test it out at home tonight on a machine running Tiger. I'm sure it'll be an even better experience than it's been in 10.3.9.
By default in 10.3.9, clicking the scroll ball engages Expose's "Tile all Windows" command.
As far as the "picking up a finger" issue, I've found it to be very easy to get used to.
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1. Do the side buttons have a physical click you can feel, or only an electronic sound?
Not sure about a sound (I'm running it on 10.3.9 currently), but there is no "click" per se. The 2 pads just "give" slightly.
2. Are they so sensitive that it's easy to trigger the "squeeze" by accident?
Not at all. You have to conciously squeeze them.
3. Does pressing down on the ball have a physical click you can feel, or only an electronic sound? Does pressing the ball make the whole top shell move down?
The ball does not push down into the mouse. It acts just like the right and left clicks, except in the center. What I mean by this is that the main hinge of the mouse is activated.
4. Is the ball-click so sensitive that it's easy to click it by accident?
Not at all. It has to be a full-on press to make the hinge click.
5. Can you rest two fingers on the two "virtual" button regions, and click EITHER one without lifting the other finger away first? (I'm hoping it doesn't just sense that your finger is "touching," but rather can tell which finger is touching HARDER.)
Looks like when both fingers are on the mouse, it registers as a left-click.
6. If you are ALREADY holding one of the two "buttons," can you somehow trigger the other button too? (Like for games with 2-button firing.) Could you hold left-click down and then do a right-double-click, for instance, without losing the left function still being held down?
No. There is only 1 hinge mechanism for all "three" buttons.
7. And if #6 does work, does it work in both directions? Hold left first, or hold right first? (Again--for games. The ball and the squeeze don't sound ideal for alt-firing)
Nope.
would come up with such a kick ass beast.
Bluetooth, anyone.
It sounds like you have to lift your left finger AWAY from the mouse or you can't right-click. The mouse does NOT know you're pressing harder with one finger and merely "resting" the other.
Too bad--that would have been a better solution. Having to get in the habit of lifting a finger is going to bother many buyers.
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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1636362
Originally posted by nagromme
Having to get in the habit of lifting a finger is going to bother many buyers.
From:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=1636362
time to get some exercise. Apple looks after your fingers health as well.
Originally posted by rickt42uk
I'd like to see the Mighty mouse next to a standard Apple one-button mouse.
Me too. And as much as I'd love one of these new mice, I don't think I'll pick one up until there's a bluetooth model.
Nice attempt by Apple though, shows they really know how to put a new spin on existing technology, even if it is inferior.
That whole lifting the finger thing is giving me a migraine just thinking about it.. I've used a mouse for 18 years, I'm not going to change.
Originally posted by max_naylor
Oh good lord.
All it takes now is a Newton revival...
Cheers to that!
Give all of your PC friends an iPod and Mighty Mouse and they will be all set to switch when Vista comes out all buggy in 2007!!
$49 is actually a great price and I assume the shell design will basically last forever compared to all of the mechanics of scroll wheels and mechanical buttons!
I was hoping for a clickwheel on this, but maybe the little button will be easy to use.
disco, how do you vertical scroll a long document most efficiently? Do you just keep tweaking the little button? Hmmm, I won't go there. My biggest issue with scroll wheels was the need to grind thru pages with my finger like I was grating cheese.
Lastly, I wish Apple would go back to translucent graphite rather than make everything so white.
Originally posted by slughead
$50.... that's what I paid for my MX1000, and it's as-good-as USB wireless (55% better refresh rate than bluetooth) and has the best sensor on the market.
Nice attempt by Apple though, shows they really know how to put a new spin on existing technology, even if it is inferior.
That whole lifting the finger thing is giving me a migraine just thinking about it.. I've used a mouse for 18 years, I'm not going to change.
Yeah, the the MX1000's sensitivity is the absolute top of the line. I bet the MM is just reusing the optical sensor from the other one.
*rok jealously awaits the apple store, new orleans*
p.s. to any students out there, get it for $5 off via the educational store.
of course, you then have to pay for shipping, so throw in an ibook.
Originally posted by MacGregor
Cheers to that!
Give all of your PC friends an iPod and Mighty Mouse and they will be all set to switch when Vista comes out all buggy in 2007!!
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
Originally posted by Placebo
Yeah, the the MX1000's sensitivity is the absolute top of the line. I bet the MM is just reusing the optical sensor from the other one.
FWIW, owners of the MM are saying it tracks faster than the regular mouse. Too bad Apple's specs don't state this info.
Originally posted by kotatsu
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
Originally posted by kim kap sol
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
Damn true
Originally posted by kotatsu
The PC support sounds extremely lame. There is no software, just the standard MS Mouse control panel! (which has no button configuration options)
If you want PC people to buy your products Apple you have to actually give a damn, like you did with iTunes. Mighty Mouse on PC is a poor effort and will not be a big seller.
The CD doesn't work on a PC????
Originally posted by kim kap sol
That won't help sell Macs. As much as some would like all Mac programs to be available on PCs and all peripherals...Apple is in the business of selling hardware...especially Macs (and iPods).
And what's a mouse - software?
When you release a product as a multi-platform solution, and it's a hardware on top of that, you better fucking include the same control panel you include for Macs because people are not gonna spend $49 on a MM just to realize that it doesn't behave any better than a $3 Dell mouse at their local Radio Shack.
Squeezing, Sensors, Right Click and all the goods work only when implemented through software. If MM uses the same driver as your generic Win32 mouse, and it only has one *physical* button, then it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal one-button mice.
In which case, why the hell should I pay $49 for it?
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If MM uses the same driver as your generic Win32 mouse, and it only has one *physical* button, then it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal one-button mice.
In which case, why the hell should I pay $49 for it? [/B]
But it doesn't behave exactly the same as a one-button mouse when plugged into a Win PC. It simply can't be customized. So you have left, right, scroll, scroll-click all working.
Perhaps you meant it's gonna behave exactly the same as their normal PC two-button + clickable scroll wheel mouse?
I'll test it out at home tonight on a machine running Tiger. I'm sure it'll be an even better experience than it's been in 10.3.9.
By default in 10.3.9, clicking the scroll ball engages Expose's "Tile all Windows" command.
As far as the "picking up a finger" issue, I've found it to be very easy to get used to.