Athlon or Pentium IV?
I'm buying a PC and I'm going for 'Fujitsu-Siemens'. Not sure if they're sold in the US. However I can choose between same number of Mhz (1700), one with Athlon and the other with P4. The price difference is $92 in Athlons favour. What do you think is the better choice here? All other specs are same. Are there any compatibility issues with Athlon?
Any input appreciated
Any input appreciated
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On the other hand, you could post the inverse of your question on a PC forum and see what might happen.
After that, hit <a href="http://www.mwave.com"; target="_blank">MWave</a>, or <a href="http://www.pricewatch.com"; target="_blank">Pricewatch</a>, or <a href="http://www.newegg.com[/url"; target="_blank">NewEgg</a> when you shop for your components at the prices they offer.
Lotta links there...
<strong>Right, well, you're barking up the wrong tree here if you're looking for unbiased opinions related to your question. Here's mine anyway: buy a Mac.
On the other hand, you could post the inverse of your question on a PC forum and see what might happen.
Thanks for the links 'TheAlmightyBabaramm'. I'm having a look at Toms HW, great page
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[qb] Why should I buy a Mac when I already have 3 off 'em?
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Cause you can never have enough mac!
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You should be fed to the lions for asking your original question like that in a Mac forum. I'd expect to be ridiculed for openly admitting my allegiance to the dark side. Additionally, having 3 Macs, why would you now want a PC? Are you sick?
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You should be fed to the lions for asking your original question like that in a Mac forum. I'd expect to be ridiculed for openly admitting my allegiance to the dark side. Additionally, having 3 Macs, why would you now want a PC? Are you sick?
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Hmmm, you all show great deal off majority here...hmmmmm. But to try and answer your question on why I'm gonna buy a PC this time around I'm gonna give you just a few.
1. My bank doesn't accept Macs for home banking for whatever reason.
2. I can't get online quotes on mortgage rates and such at the main Mortgage lender in this country.
3. I can't write flawlessly in my own language in Ms. Office. (The special characters only work in a limited number of fonts and only in size of 12 pt. or less) MS blames Apple for this but solution will at the very first be available with OsX.2
4. I can't video chat with my friends. Our community uses Yahoo as well as FocusFocus, neither of which are available for Macs at this time.
4. To view my regular web sites I have to switch between 2 or 3 browsers all the time and I'm getting sick and tired of it. As I stated in #2 that's not even enough.
5. OsX is too sluggish. Even on my G4/450 "Sawtooth" and it's 640mb RAM it's to slow
And to your last question about my state of health. I actually have pnaumonia right now but that hasn't anything to do with my decision to buy a peezee this time around
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i used to use pentiums in machines, but switched to Athlons years ago due to price/performance issues. the PIV's just made that decision easier. clock for clock they suck compared to PIII's and Athlons.
One thing : beware of P4 systems with SD-Ram! They're memory starved and slow as molasses.
<strong>The Athlon XP1700 and the P4 1.7 are about equal speed-wise. If all other things (RAM-DDR,SDR,RD???) are equal, get the cheaper one, i.e. the Athlon.
One thing : beware of P4 systems with SD-Ram! They're memory starved and slow as molasses.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes take the athlon ,and avoid P4 with Sd -RAM a real more than one ghz turtle.
But, why dont you buy a highend Mac and use VPC for your banking, etc needs?
It's cheaper
It's faster
It's better
The P4 1.7 would be the Williamette I'm assuming, as the Northwood has only been released at 1.6, 1.8, 2.0, and 2.2. If it was the Northwood it would be much better choice; the Northwoods overclock like crazy. Everybody I've heard of has gotten they're NW at 1.6 to reach 2.0 or more.
Since it's not, go AMD. The XP1700 is a perfect balance of price/MHz...good bang for the buck. Pair it with some good RAM (Crucial PC2100), and you have a very nice system.
A good HS (Alpha PAL8045, ThermalRight SK6, ThermalRight AX7) with a high-performance fan will yield decent overclocking. Not NW-like, but decent. I'd bet you could get most Athlons from the standard 1.47 to 1.6.
Whoops. I just read your post again and it seems like you are buying it pre-built. So you probably won't be able to choose your HSF. Oh well. Building it yourself is still a worthy option to consider.
<strong>The Athlon outperforms the P4 in almost every area. 3D rendering might be slightly faster on the P4 given it's a DDRRam. But overall the Athlon is be far the better choice.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not the Northwood. The 2.2GHz P4 outperformed the fastest Athlon in almost every test. If I remember from the benchmark photos correctly, the Athlon either came neck and neck and or passed the P4 in only one or two (out of many) tests by a hair. Overall, the Northwood P4 is the current better performer. The days of the P4 being a one legged MHz whore are over! The P4 is a screamer (especially coupled with Rambus RAM). Now that the MHz meet the new architecture and closed the gap, it will only get faster from here (obviously). Thanks to AMD, the prices are more competitive as well. However, since the Athlon performance almost as good as the P4, it has more bang for your buck.
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Additionally:
1) the P4 is not going to burn up on you if you dislodge your heatsink.
2) the Socket 423 / Northwood P4s don't gobble as much power and runs cooler.
the 1.47 athlon will be faster than the 1.7 P4. it's also cheaper.
and i don't know about you, but i've yet to ever come across someone who's heatsink fell off.
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and i don't know about you, but i've yet to ever come across someone who's heatsink fell off.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well it's depend if you play football with your central unit
I would have spent much more for a Pentium system to get similar performance since the Athlon is much more efficient in just about every way!
By the way I'm planning on getting myself a PM in a few months(I'm keeping this system though).Thought about a G4 but with all the talk about the G5 coming out...
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