Notice that its not a term I just throw around and normally I think it is pretty laced labet that is being used too often where it doesn´t apply, but: Black Hawk Down is racist.
I didn´t even realise it before I made an exam on it (and no, it was not something i put in the report. And no, it was not something a left winged professor having a "Hate US propaganda movies")
what is it about the movie that makes you not want to see it? although it thought it had a little too much of a topgun feel to it at times, i thought it was an enjoyable film.
I remember watching that stuff on the news. I saw the Special Forces guys hit the beach on CNN. They showed it live with all the spotlights glaring. I remember that, because I was on deployment on the John F. Kennedy when it happened. It got on my biggest nerve and nothing good happened from the whole mission. It was a disaster and I have no intention on seeing that at all.
Notice that its not a term I just throw around and normally I think it is pretty laced labet that is being used too often where it doesn´t apply, but: Black Hawk Down is racist.
I didn´t even realise it before I made an exam on it (and no, it was not something i put in the report. And no, it was not something a left winged professor having a "Hate US propaganda movies")
Batman Forever. The only time I have ever walked out of a movie I paid to see.
Any Given Sunday. I watched this with a mate and its only redeeming feature was how much it made us laugh. It's like the worst kind of corny daytime soap opera, but with the full force of Oliver Stone's ego behind it. I've never seen such a bad film take itself so seriously.
My favourite bit: when they show a location shot (you know, like when they show the outside of the building in Friends before they show the scene) but instead of the building they use the WHOLE WORLD. We almost fell off the sofa laughing.
Seriously. Luckily, we rented it after it won at the Oscars, so we didn't waste theatre money on it! Myself, my wife and her mother all fell asleep during the movie, it was so terminally boring! And not just because it was a drama and I'm not normally a drama movie person, it was a poor, slow drama....
The scene were they are all coming down and the woman finds her baby dead in the crib still gives me the shivers. And then she turned around and wanted to get high again! Reminds me of an old (redundant) Dragnet episode where they are investigating a couple for suspected marjiuana use (hey, it was the fifties). They show up one evening, everyone at the house is high, the husband gives a high sounding speech about being free, and it turns out that when the mother got high, she forgot the two-year-old in the bathtub and the child has drowned. Ugh!
Yes, Jennifer Beals is teh hottness, but I distinctly remember thinking: "This is the end of civilization. This is a movie that makes no sense whatsoever, and the people that made it are proud of that. It's gratingly, obviously cobbled together entirely from little jolts of manipulation stolen from other, infinitely better films, and is thrusting it wares at even as it is moment to moment canceling itself out, but it doesn't care because it apparently thinks brain damage is bracing and erotic and WTF is up with the Bob Fosse art directed steel worker bar? It's like movie history porn", or words to that effect.
And you know what? I was right. The whole world is Flashdance now. "Sense" is a quaint old notion I amuse the kiddies with.
I never saw what the big deal was. It was an incoherent (OK, OK... I may like Lynch, and he's incoherent, but at least somewhat understandable even when he's making stuff up), poorly plotted, poorly written piece of cinema.
Well, I saw it like, 10 years ago, and back then I was pretty much all the time under the wonderful influence of alcohol, so my judgement of its artistic merits might have been marred by the delightful fluids in my body...
I'm thinking of giving it another try soon. I'll report back as soon as I watch it.
edit: I do remember liking the name Rosebud though...
Well, I saw it like, 10 years ago, and back then I was pretty much all the time under the wonderful influence of alcohol, so my judgement of its artistic merits might have been marred by the delightful fluids in my body...
I'm thinking of giving it another try soon. I'll report back as soon as I watch it.
edit: I do remember liking the name Rosebud though...
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I didn´t even realise it before I made an exam on it (and no, it was not something i put in the report. And no, it was not something a left winged professor having a "Hate US propaganda movies")
Originally posted by running with scissors
what is it about the movie that makes you not want to see it? although it thought it had a little too much of a topgun feel to it at times, i thought it was an enjoyable film.
I remember watching that stuff on the news. I saw the Special Forces guys hit the beach on CNN. They showed it live with all the spotlights glaring. I remember that, because I was on deployment on the John F. Kennedy when it happened. It got on my biggest nerve and nothing good happened from the whole mission. It was a disaster and I have no intention on seeing that at all.
Originally posted by Anders
Notice that its not a term I just throw around and normally I think it is pretty laced labet that is being used too often where it doesn´t apply, but: Black Hawk Down is racist.
I didn´t even realise it before I made an exam on it (and no, it was not something i put in the report. And no, it was not something a left winged professor having a "Hate US propaganda movies")
Huh? How is it a racist movie?
Originally posted by Gene Clean
It's funny violence. That's the draw.
Well, it's funny violence until QT decides that it's not. And then it's not funny anymore.
Originally posted by midwinter
Well, it's funny violence until QT decides that it's not. And then it's not funny anymore.
Good QT films:
Pulp Fiction (although I turned it off a number of times the first time through)
Kill Bill 1 and 2
Jackie Brown
Sin City
Bad QT films:
Four rooms (only his room sucked, the others were good)
Dusk till Dawn (made it to the post-rape scene, 5 minutes in)
Reservour Dogs (made to the ear cutting)
Originally posted by e1618978
Reservour Dogs (made to the ear cutting)
You mean "the ear cutting that we know happens but which we never see. Instead, all we see is a slowly growing pool of blood."
Originally posted by e1618978
Good QT films:
Pulp Fiction (although I turned it off a number of times the first time through)
Jackie Brown
Four rooms
Reservoir Dogs (although a rip-off).
Bad QT films:
From Dusk Till Dawn (made it to the post-rape scene, 5 minutes in)
Kill Bill 1 & 2
T, FTFY.
I think Kill Bill 1 & 2 are his weakest films. Don't know what he was thinking.
mid: Pulp Fiction is funny though. Others... not so much. Jackie Brown, on the other hand, is how a film should be done...
Originally posted by Gene Clean
mid: Pulp Fiction is funny though. Others... not so much. Jackie Brown, on the other hand, is how a film should be done...
Oh, don't get me wrong. PF is very, very funny. And Jackie Brown is one we watch probably once a month.
Any Given Sunday. I watched this with a mate and its only redeeming feature was how much it made us laugh. It's like the worst kind of corny daytime soap opera, but with the full force of Oliver Stone's ego behind it. I've never seen such a bad film take itself so seriously.
My favourite bit: when they show a location shot (you know, like when they show the outside of the building in Friends before they show the scene) but instead of the building they use the WHOLE WORLD. We almost fell off the sofa laughing.
Seriously. Luckily, we rented it after it won at the Oscars, so we didn't waste theatre money on it! Myself, my wife and her mother all fell asleep during the movie, it was so terminally boring!
The scene were they are all coming down and the woman finds her baby dead in the crib still gives me the shivers. And then she turned around and wanted to get high again! Reminds me of an old (redundant) Dragnet episode where they are investigating a couple for suspected marjiuana use (hey, it was the fifties). They show up one evening, everyone at the house is high, the husband gives a high sounding speech about being free, and it turns out that when the mother got high, she forgot the two-year-old in the bathtub and the child has drowned. Ugh!
Flashdance.
Yes, Jennifer Beals is teh hottness, but I distinctly remember thinking: "This is the end of civilization. This is a movie that makes no sense whatsoever, and the people that made it are proud of that. It's gratingly, obviously cobbled together entirely from little jolts of manipulation stolen from other, infinitely better films, and is thrusting it wares at even as it is moment to moment canceling itself out, but it doesn't care because it apparently thinks brain damage is bracing and erotic and WTF is up with the Bob Fosse art directed steel worker bar? It's like movie history porn", or words to that effect.
And you know what? I was right. The whole world is Flashdance now. "Sense" is a quaint old notion I amuse the kiddies with.
What a feeling!
Citizen Kane.
Seriously.
I never saw what the big deal was. It was an incoherent (OK, OK... I may like Lynch, and he's incoherent, but at least somewhat understandable even when he's making stuff up), poorly plotted, poorly written piece of cinema.
Or that's the way I chose to see it anyway.
I mean, you know, ....... Citizen Kane?
I'm thinking of giving it another try soon. I'll report back as soon as I watch it.
edit: I do remember liking the name Rosebud though...
Originally posted by Gene Clean
Well, I saw it like, 10 years ago, and back then I was pretty much all the time under the wonderful influence of alcohol, so my judgement of its artistic merits might have been marred by the delightful fluids in my body...
I'm thinking of giving it another try soon. I'll report back as soon as I watch it.
edit: I do remember liking the name Rosebud though...
Watch RKO 286 first.