Apple introduces MacBook Pro

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  • Reply 41 of 77
    Quote:

    Originally posted by 1984

    PowerBook = MacBook Pro / iBook = MacBook





    Indeed, I'm not sure why some people can't see that.



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    The iMac and Mac mini remain as they already have 'Mac' in the name but the PowerMac is a bit of a mystery. It too already has 'Mac' in the name but also has 'Power" which SJ said they were done with. Mac Pro?



    This is all going to take some getting used to.



    I think Mac Pro.



    It will take some getting used to, and I can see why people don't like it, but marketing is a mystery.
  • Reply 42 of 77
    I was pretty sure the powerbook was but people on the broads are saying its the new iBook. I don't know where they got information.



    The name Macbook Pro is a good name and for most of you it will grow on you. Its just like when a car comes out and you think its ugly as all heck, but then a couple months done the road you catch yourself saying "Man thats one nice looking car." Give the Macbook a few months and you will be saying the same thing.
  • Reply 43 of 77
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    Originally posted by Blackcat

    My only question is if I order today will my card be charged now (bad) or in Febuary (good).



    But I *am* ordering!







    they charged my card today... but then I don't really care much
  • Reply 44 of 77
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
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    Why not a 17" Macbook?



    The 15" MacBook is just a start. The MacBook I think is for those who feel they need a laptop with an Intel processor now. Introducing one machine is good because that gives Apple time and room to work out the kinks and the bugs. If the MacBook Pro shows signs of serious prolems Apple still offers the old line of laptops. If all goes well Apple can transition the whole line faster.



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    Not impressed, I thought the switch to Intel was supposed to lower prices...



    Apple never said it would lower prices. The computer has dual processor for the same price, what're people complaining about?



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    Why not FW800? That's absurd for video professionals on the field!



    Actually most all professional video equipment use Firewire 400. That's becasue Intel does not support Firewire 800, therefore very few PC's have FireWire 800. Mac's are the only OEM machines I know of that ship with Firewire 800. The result is there really is no huge demand for FireWire 800.



    Hopefully in the near future Apple and Intel will work out these differences and Intel will support Firewire 800 and Apple will support wireless USB.



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    And the iSight onslaught continues...



    As far as the iSight. I'm sure there are several imaginative ways to disable it. Paint black over it, etc. I guess it would be easier for the customer overall if Apple just offerd an iSightless version.



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    are we to assume these processors are 64bit? it would seem stupid for them not to be but it doesnt seem to mention it newhere.



    Intel Core Duo are 32 bit chips. Intel will not offer a 64 bit Core chip until later this year.





    With the name MacBook Pro. Its true that's not as elegant a name as PowerBook. At the same time PowerBook had become too good of a name. To the point that some people were calling laptops PowerBooks in general not only for Mac's.



    Going to Intel Apple needs to build strong brand recognition for Macintosh.
  • Reply 45 of 77
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    Originally posted by debenm

    they charged my card today... but then I don't really care much



    That's naughty.



    I'd prefer not to get £1800 + 90 days interest on my VISA
  • Reply 46 of 77
    a_greera_greer Posts: 4,594member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by lhvide

    Perhaps you missed Steve saying "The MacBook Pro.. it's a new name cause we're kinda done with Power and we want the name Mac in front..."







    Well I am going to watch the keynote again because God knows the audio was dropping like a mo-fo last night.
  • Reply 47 of 77
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,455member
    Very good post TenoBell..... I actually pasted your post to about 5 people that have been bitching about it as well.
  • Reply 48 of 77
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    Originally posted by emig647

    I can picture the Extreme PC gamers saying... Hey what laptop do you have? Uhhh errr its mah um...... MacBook... pro. And watching them laugh their way out of the store. I think its the lamest name in the world.



    So it is your belief that Apple should run all of their name proposals by the "radical PC gamerz community"? Sounds like a plan.



    MacBook, MacBook Pro

    MacMini, Mac, Mac Pro



    Simple and makes the lineup obvious.



    I'm still not convinced that the MacBook Pro is replacement for the Powerbook series. It may be a stopgap measure to buy Apple engineering time, or it may be the new iMac replacement in wolf's clothing. Later in the year, Apple could introduce a 64 bit duo core fully clocked out (check out what Wintel duo core laptops are clocked at, it's way above the MacBook - we have the same hardware but Apple still can't get it up!), with all the little details missing from the MacBook Pro Give the new MacBook Pro three screen sizes: 10.5", 16", 18". Then then current MacBook Pro is revised to become the new high end iBook replacement, the MacBook 15".



    This is just a hunch based on the fact that the MacBook Pro, besides the CPU/motherboard, is not much of a leap compared to the current powerbooks, and is actually inferior in some ways, such as Superdrive, s-video output, etc.
  • Reply 49 of 77
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Blackcat

    That's naughty.



    I'd prefer not to get £1800 + 90 days interest on my VISA




    oh... well, my card is paying me 2% back, and I'll pay the balance when the bill comes. So I figure I get the macbook with a 2% savings because of my credit card...
  • Reply 50 of 77
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,455member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Junkyard Dawg

    Later in the year, Apple could introduce a 64 bit duo core fully clocked out (check out what Wintel duo core laptops are clocked at, it's way above the MacBook - we have the same hardware but Apple still can't get it up!),



    I have yet to see a core duo (aka yonah) clocked above 1.83... I have seen reviews of NON CONSUMER MARKET RELEASED ones at what... 2.16? Please send a url if I am wrong.. I just haven't seen anything released yet above that.



    I was just making a point that the name sounds lame. I'm pretty convinced its to replace the powerbook because of the enclosure. Apple for the last 3 years has followed a trend of making the consumer models plastic and the pro models aluminum. Obviously that isn't the deal breaker... but the mac book pro did get the powerbooks enclosure... and it has been further modified... what more proof do you need?
  • Reply 51 of 77
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Dell has them at 2 GHz but not available until mid-Feb.
  • Reply 52 of 77
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,455member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Telomar

    Dell has them at 2 GHz but not available until mid-Feb.



    In all fairness... I doubt apple's will be either.
  • Reply 53 of 77
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by debenm

    they charged my card today... but then I don't really care much



    No, really? You ordered a MacBook, it won't ship for at least a month, and they charged your card?
  • Reply 54 of 77
    Why would you want to be a guinea pig and buy now??!!! If you wait six months any bugs will be fixed, and the specs will be improved. Besides its not as if there are many applications you can run on them now.
  • Reply 55 of 77
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    Originally posted by [email protected]

    Besides its not as if there are many programs you can run on them now.



    Every single application that Apple installs on the Mac of their own is compiled natively for the Intel CPU. Steve said that yesterday. If one does not need any of the major applications like Photoshop, I do not see anything wrong with buying on of the Mac laptops now.



    Heck, if I had the money for one, I would be a "guinea pig" now as well.
  • Reply 56 of 77
    lundylundy Posts: 4,466member
    Quote:

    programs



    Lundy's tip of the day:



    "programs" => Windows Guy.



    "applications" => Mac Guy.
  • Reply 57 of 77
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    Originally posted by jimhill

    I'm not going to go into detail about our security but rest assured there's a darn sight more to be seen in offices than you seem to think. And you are ignoring the key question of my post which was whether or not the company really believes that giving a subset of the population built-in videoconferencing outweighs the loss of sales that will ensue. Yes, Virginia, there are lots of places that will not permit computers with cameras built in and telling them they need a "reality check" ain't gonna change that.



    Of course, telling Apple not to build in iSights to every machine ain't gonna change that, either. Sigh.




    I see your point about the security issues. Could be a real hassle for the security bots. But if you really spend millions a year on Mac, I would be willing to bet Apple will build them without the isght camera for you. They do specials for the gummint all the time. Just a thought.
  • Reply 58 of 77
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by taliesin

    I see your point about the security issues. Could be a real hassle for the security bots. But if you really spend millions a year on Mac, I would be willing to bet Apple will build them without the isght camera for you. They do specials for the gummint all the time. Just a thought.



    Doesn't help a private contractor
  • Reply 59 of 77
    emig647emig647 Posts: 2,455member
    I'm going to jump on the BTO iSight bandwagon as well. Seriously its something I would NEVER use. Is it really necessary? And the security issues is a VERY GOOD POINT. Its like apple wasn't thinking the last few months... or had intel influence..... with the macbook pro name and built in isight... come on. I mean its a cool feature if you're into that stuff. I guess you could always use a piece of tape over it... *shrugs* I'd rather not pay for it though.
  • Reply 60 of 77
    Quote:

    Originally posted by emig647

    I'm going to jump on the BTO iSight bandwagon as well. Seriously its something I would NEVER use. Is it really necessary? And the security issues is a VERY GOOD POINT. Its like apple wasn't thinking the last few months... or had intel influence..... with the macbook pro name and built in isight... come on. I mean its a cool feature if you're into that stuff. I guess you could always use a piece of tape over it... *shrugs* I'd rather not pay for it though.



    I'm pretty sure Apple does lots of research when choosing features, and considering the secrecy at Infinite Loop they understand no camera policies.



    We have *one* new laptop. Who's to say what else whe are getting? Perhaps the 12" will have no iSight, or the iBook. It's too early to say.



    I'm also wondering how real this issue is. MacBooks provided by an IT Dept could have their iSights disabled in software, private contractors could simply not mention it as it's far less opvious than a phone or camera, or cover it.



    Either way, it makes more sense to tell Apple than AI, they might well listen.
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