I'm switching to Linux/Windows
I've decided that I'm too much of a hardware/games freak to keep on living with an overpriced system and an undersupported (game-wise) operating system. So I'll be switching to Linux for my desktop putzing-around operating system and Windows my gaming/productivity OS.
I might try to run Mac OS X on another partition, but I'm not going to put a lot of effort into it if it's going to get broken with every software update.
So long.
I might try to run Mac OS X on another partition, but I'm not going to put a lot of effort into it if it's going to get broken with every software update.
So long.
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I can't really see the point of this thread though?
1 compare a new imac to a dell. Make sure you configure it evenly. (remember build in webcam, wireless, bluetooth...)
2. Vista will be able to run on the new intel macs...which means use that for your games.
I'm just now switching to mac from win/linux becuase of those two reasons.
i installed Ubuntu Linux on my main machine at work and have been very happy with the OS. Open Office is a very competent Office sweet, The Gimp is a nice image editor, and most application you need are available. The look & feel of the operating system is so customizable that you can make it anything you want it to be. Installing most programs and updating things, at least with Ubuntu, is a snap.
But, there are some hangups. And if you like tinkering with your system, it won't be a big deal. Like, for example, Firefox 1.5 never made it to their normal application-download system, so you have to install it more manually. It isn't too big of a deal, but it involves a solid 15 minutes of closely following instructions. Also, the look-and-feel of Nautalis is nowhere near the OS X finder (not that I think the OS X finder is even that great!) and you'll find yourself much more actively involved with your file system than you ever were with OS X. Oh, and F-Spot, the iPhoto-type program, is also just not nearly as smooth, consistent, and nice to use as iPhoto. And, of course, there is no iTunes, so you'll be stuck with a more archane and less-handy way of managing your digital music. On the plus side, Linux browsing is fast (except for Flash, but we have that problem on Mac too) and AIM/MSN/Yahoo!/ICQ support is very adequate.
Ultimately, i imagine you will lead yourself to windows, where you will be able to use Google's awesome Picasa image management program, iTunes, and many of the other good free programs that are available.
When all is said and done, both Linux and Windows (especially Linux) will feel new & cool at first, but then you'll ultimately realize in how many ways they come up short in terms of usability...though you'll also realize they are totally competent OS's and maybe worth it, considering the price of the hardware.
My final note is the constant want to try new things with a computer is pretty much a never ending cycle. It's sort of like those among us who buy a new Mac practically every year. It doesn't change much, but it's fun to change for its own sake.
Good luck!
Originally posted by Placebo
I've decided that I'm too much of a hardware/games freak to keep on living with an overpriced system and an undersupported (game-wise) operating system. So I'll be switching to Linux for my desktop putzing-around operating system and Windows my gaming/productivity OS.
I might try to run Mac OS X on another partition, but I'm not going to put a lot of effort into it if it's going to get broken with every software update.
So long.
So, will ya cut a college student a deal on your "overpriced and slow" Apple hardware, and whatever apps you may have??
What I'm buying
Overall, I think that Linux will keep on improving, and frankly I have faith that eventually Apple will see that it's in their interest to at least allow people to put their OS on 3rd-party hardware, even if they don't support it. Until then though, it's off to a world of choices.
Originally posted by a_greer
So, will ya cut a college student a deal on your "overpriced and slow" Apple hardware, and whatever apps you may have??
Take a look in General Discussion for my other thread and details of my Powermac G5 / display / software.
Originally posted by Placebo
I was considering switching to an Intel Mac and then install Vista, but I don't think it'll end up being too easy, and the hardware will still be expensive, so I'm going all the way. I also like AMD hardware much more.
What I'm buying
Overall, I think that Linux will keep on improving, and frankly I have faith that eventually Apple will see that it's in their interest to at least allow people to put their OS on 3rd-party hardware, even if they don't support it. Until then though, it's off to a world of choices.
damn, its amazing what you can buy on the PC price for 1500. add pics of the setup whenever you get 'er done. the case looks nice too...hopefully it's quiet, but maybe that isn't a big concern of people wanting max performance. whatcha gonna be using for a display?
Originally posted by Placebo
Take a look in General Discussion for my other thread and details of my Powermac G5 / display / software.
Still too rich for my blood -- The Mac platform is a country club, and I am a bus-boy
If I win the lotto, I will get a proper Mac, but I sort of agree, the Apple hardware sux.
Could you imagine OSX on a dual dual core amd 4200+, with 2 Quadras in SLI, THAT would be a workstation...not this "core duo" shit
Originally posted by progmac
damn, its amazing what you can buy on the PC price for 1500. add pics of the setup whenever you get 'er done. the case looks nice too...hopefully it's quiet, but maybe that isn't a big concern of people wanting max performance. whatcha gonna be using for a display?
Acctually, the AMD heatsyncs now use HUGE fans along with the huge fans in the back, it may be quieter than you imagine:
RPM is noise, a big fan moves more air at 1/2 the RPM of a small fan in many cases, that combined with "liquid bearings" results in a really quiet PC, not to mention Energy Star willl turn the RPM of fans down or up as needed, so it will be really quiet if you just surf the net, and a little louder in a game.
Also, you can use this
Originally posted by progmac
damn, its amazing what you can buy on the PC price for 1500. add pics of the setup whenever you get 'er done. the case looks nice too...hopefully it's quiet, but maybe that isn't a big concern of people wanting max performance. whatcha gonna be using for a display?
Yeah, that's what really kills me about the Mac versus the PC. You can just get so much great stuff, such a great selection with mix'n'matchable components, for very cheap. My PC-using friends are saying I'm spending a ridiculous amount of money, too. $1500!
The case is pretty much the ultimate love-or-hate. I love it. Some of my friends hate it, some of my friends love it.
I'm going for a Dell Ultrasharp widescreen, either a 20.1" or a 24". Whatever I have money for. I might use a CRT in the mean time.
Originally posted by Shadow Slayer 26
nice computer, except u may have a bit of a bottle neck with the proccesor...i mean you have one of the best gpu's and 2 gigs of ram, but your proccesor isn't to great. its still nice tho. And yah, i think linux will improve, but apple computers are not overprices for what you get. Since im just switching now, ive configured many (many) different computers from many manufactures, and they all end up being about the same.
I'm going light on the processor until the dual cores come down. And the processor is still nothing to scoff at, and according to my AMD-freak friend is very very overclockable, even with standard cooling.
My buddy is building a gaming rig right now, AMD Dual core 4?00, 1 GB ram, NV 7800, ~200-ish gig Caviar HDD, DL-DVD burner, all for ~$1200
Compare that to the mid range (dual core 2.3GHz) PowerMac with a 7800 and 1GB Non-ECC RAM at ~$2950
Now lets add a display: for the PMG5, an Apple 20 inch display which makes the price $3748
TO the PC we add a Dell 20.1 inch display for $450 bringing the total to $1650
He already owns a windows license, but assuming for the equasion, he were to buy Win MCE 2005 at OEM price on Newegg of $114 that would bring the Windows box to a price of $1764 and with MCE, he would have all the functionality of iLife and more (just add Picasa)
3748 less 1764 leaves us with $1984 in the bank: that is a good laptop AND a fun weekend in the city...or more likely for us college students, money that doesnt exist in the first place.
I think Mr. Placebo is coming around to what a ton of PC guys have been saying for years: We will pay good money for OSX, but not on Apples over priced towers...AND WE DEMAND NON-AIO non integrated towers!