Macs Cheaper Than PCs
I'm bored and have nothing better to do than to throw some gasoline on a very touchy subject around here; the costs of Macs in comparison to PCs. Came across a link where some knowledgeable guy computed the total cost of ownership for macs and pcs and .... drumroll...
MACS ARE HALF THE COST OF PCS
This ought to get a good one started.
Link below for details.
http://www.networkworld.com/best/200...schwartau.html
MACS ARE HALF THE COST OF PCS
This ought to get a good one started.
Link below for details.
http://www.networkworld.com/best/200...schwartau.html
Comments
Well, I have two theories.
1: They use their computers as blunt objects to upon cans of sardines with.
2: They click on every single "fungame.exe" sort of attachment they receive.
"The results of this TCO astounded me. For my small enterprise, owning a WinTel box for three years costs twice as much as owning a MacTel."
Strange that he thinks MacTels have a lower TCO than WinTels, seeing as MacTels have been out there for (not even) 2 months. How can you judge the TCO of a MacTel over three years and then compare that to the WinTels when MacTels are... you know, 2 months old?
Originally posted by Gene Clean
Strange that he thinks MacTels have a lower TCO than WinTels, seeing as MacTels have been out there for (not even) 2 months. How can you judge the TCO of a MacTel over three years and then compare that to the WinTels when MacTels are... you know, 2 months old?
It doesn't matter that the PPC to Intel switch happened unless there is some cataclysmic new cost that the CPU switch creates.
<looks around>
Nope, no cataclysmic new costs floating around out here. OS X is still OS X. Costs are gonna be pretty close to what they were before.
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Originally posted by a_greer
Macs are cheap? is that so?
PowerMac G5 verses Dell workstation
Face it, Apples are mmore expencive, facts are facts.
And you were too cheap with your time to read the article?
Originally posted by e1618978
And you were too cheap with your time to read the article?
I know they are talking about Mactels, but the ones out now are the same price as thier PPC predecessors, so I assume that will continue.
Originally posted by a_greer
I know they are talking about Mactels, but the ones out now are the same price as thier PPC predecessors, so I assume that will continue.
Do you have a clue what TCO is? Total Cost of Ownership. The price of the computer is one factor in TCO.
Originally posted by Gene Clean
Assumed? When doing a TCO report, never assume anything.
NO SHIT, but they evidently did assume, and those are the grounds I'm guessing they speculated upon.
It doesn't matter that the PPC to Intel switch happened unless there is some cataclysmic new cost that the CPU switch creates.
<looks around>
Nope, no cataclysmic new costs floating around out here. OS X is still OS X. Costs are gonna be pretty close to what they were before.
But it does bring out another cost; the cost of waiting for Photoshop to batch-process those 250 6MP images that need to be processed for the company's next weekly magazine. Oh-oh. It takes 3 hours now instead of 30 minutes because of Rosetta!
If your time isn't money, and time/money spent waiting for MacTels to process those 250 images for you isn't a cost when discussing TCO, then yes, no "new cost" has been added to the equation.
And Photoshop is just one example. But, hey, don't let that ruin the picture of a rosy TCO from a guy who "owns" a "small company" yet keeps calling things by their fanboi-created names, WinTel and MacTel, as if he were some 14 year old who just discovered "teh intarweb".
So for the time being my speed is worst case equivalent so no time-cost loss there. If I was upgrading a three year or older box then I gain in total speed today, the exact opposite of your broken point. Once Adobe ships the Universal version of CS the equation goes even farther in favor of the recent MacTel machines.
Originally posted by tensdanny38
Yeah, this is pretty crazy. It is clearly cheaper to own a PC. I don't need any maintance work done to my computer because I know what I am doing. I realize your everyday idiot probably doesn't, though. Your everyday idiot is just ignoring anything that isn't right, and keeps right on ticking rather than throw more money into computer maintance.
This is akin to saying "that article claiming that a Honda Civic is cheaper to operate than a Yugo is nonsense. Sure Yugos require a great deal more maintenance, but I'm a mechanic and I don't mind pulling the tranny from time to time. People who aren't mechanics are idiots, so I guess for them a Civic might be cheaper. Idiots."
Originally posted by addabox
I don't mind pulling the tranny
Hey Now....
Originally posted by JohnnySmith
Hey Now....
Originally posted by Gene Clean
But it does bring out another cost; the cost of waiting for Photoshop to batch-process those 250 6MP images that need to be processed for the company's next weekly magazine. Oh-oh. It takes 3 hours now instead of 30 minutes because of Rosetta!
Yeah and what about lost time waiting for your pc to get cpr? Your argument does however make some sense now if you use a intel mac. If you have an old ppc mac, which you should if you live and die with PS, it doesn't.
I know that article refered to intel macs but I'm assuming that tco costs for ppc and intels macs are essentially the same. You may take issue with that assumption, but I would argue that, if anything, tco costs of ppc macs are less since they probably have less 'bugs' than new intel macs.